Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

Han said:

Yes, if a body is recovered. Could that be a factor in how the investigation is playing out?

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Derdew said:

Another reason why ground searches should have been done. I believe her body could have possibly been gotten rid of right after the crime

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KivaloNyomozo’ said:

I am 100% imagining at this very moment the DNA has been entered into Codis (I know what they said about 24 hours) and MANY people are around computer screens working fiercely to find a match. Let this be the day….

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MistyWaters said:

So LE has not said if the wifi was cut or disconnected to the house, so whether it was or not is presently unknown?

I thought perhaps they had and it was the OPs opinion the cable was cut leading to the house. That’s quite specific.

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VegasGirl35 said:

I'm with everyone who's having trouble reconciling "burglary gone wrong" with "Nancy still being alive." The likelihood of kidnapping someone on the fly and being able to contain and hide them away for two weeks without being detected is slim to none.

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MsMatlock said:

I think it should have been a big factor in helping to locate Nancy from the start no matter the outcome. But I do wonder about the message that mentioned “going international” as I doubt the helicopter can cross the border.

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BrittMontero said:

I would be cautious about infantilizing someone. The ageism in this discussion is concerning.

Just off the top of my head I (in my 60s) know people in their 70s and 80s who are maintaining rigorous schedules in the community band, who are leaders in the garden club, who still work, who maintain their own properties, who put in a lot of hours doing childcare for their family members, who drive large RVs, etc.

My former neighbor, at age 90, used to have a large vegetable garden each year and SHE would be snowblowering my driveway while I was still lying in bed. She wrote two books in her 80s, on a computer, and still drove 100 miles a few times a month to visit her sister.

There is no indication that NG had any cognitive decline, isolation, loneliness. She had mobility issues but she seemed to have a fairly active life. She still owned and presumably drove a vehicle.

Using the same old FB photo is nothing. I personally have a 20-year-old photo on LinkedIn because I don't like images of myself.

Asking how to get to the airport? Maybe she wanted to greet someone. Maybe she offered to pick up someone. Maybe she was looking that up for a friend. She didn't need anyone to "arrange a shuttle" for her.

NG is/was not a doddering, incompetent person, based upon anything I've read. It was stated when the disappearance was first announced that she was "sharp as a tack." Lots of people look up things online out of curiosity, not need or desperation.

As to the porch pirate, it didn't unnerve her too much as she didn't move, hire security guards or purchase a Ring subscription.

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SaraSmile said:

The full backpacks on the way in, make me wonder about the burglary theory?

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MissLaura said:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023202379341152562

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Cindizzi said:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023203989899415695

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MissLaura said:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023202379341152562

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Cassie P said:

Yes but I think after seeing the lantana man video, we would agree that this guy is not an experienced highly successful professional.

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Fargo said:

I don't believe they believe that. Saying and believing are not the same. Perhaps it benefits them for whoever did this to believe they believe it's a burglary gone wrong. IMO

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stmichael said:

Yep. We call it a "kit"

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imstilla.grandma said:

Former CNN and NewsNation presenter Ashleigh Banfield has said she stands by her report that TC is being treated by authorities as an alleged "prime suspect" in her disappearance. Banfield made the claim on her podcast, Drop Dead Serious, citing a source who told her that investigators had seized a vehicle belonging to Nancy Guthrie's daughter, AG.

AG is the sister of Today co-host Savannah Guthrie. According to Banfield, the source alleged there was a connection between the vehicle and TC, and that police may be treating him as a "prime suspect" in the case. At the time of the podcast, Banfield said "these are just musings and not evidence," adding that it is routine for family members to be vetted in missing persons investigations.

from: Why Ashleigh Banfield Believes TC is still a prime suspect

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tomatotraveler said:

Pretty much nothing about this case makes sense to me. Why her, why take an old lady and nothing else, the weird, random, oddball "ransom" notes when kidnapping for ransom is super unusual here in the US in general...

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VegasGirl35 said:

I'm with everyone who's having trouble reconciling "burglary gone wrong" with "Nancy still being alive." The likelihood of kidnapping someone on the fly and being able to contain and hide them away for two weeks without being detected is slim to none.

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• Nancy is alive and the perpetrator decides he must abduct her, then decides to ransom her
  • What reason could he have to abduct her? Maybe he decides he could get more money
  • This would be a very risky gamble, and a foray into two new crimes that a burglar is unlikely to have experience with. Spontaneous kidnapping is always a bad idea, and ransom implies that NG didn't recognize the perpetrator, which would be a reason to change plans.
  • Kidnapping for ransom also brings a ton more attention to the crime, increasing the chance of getting caught.
• Nancy is alive and the perpetrator decides he must abduct her then kill her
  • What reason could he have to abduct her? Maybe he decides he could get more money, and then changes his mind. Maybe he gets recognized, and panics.
  • On top of what I said above, murder is a big jump from the mostly non-violent crime of burglary. Comfort stealing from people doesn't imply comfort executing a person. And then they'd have to dispose of the body, which isn't particularly a fun or easy thing to do, especially if you've never done it before.
• Nancy is dead and the perpetrator decides he must remove her body
  • What reason could he have to kill her? An accident, perhaps, in a struggle. Or he gets recognized. Or he didn't expect anyone to be home so when someone was, he decided that was unacceptable.
  • Death seems plausible, but why take her body? Doing so increases the risk of getting caught by a lot--you have to get a body you didn't plan for to your vehicle, then you have to transport it, then you have to dispose of it, all the while creating opportunities to leave evidence and be witnessed. The only thing I can think of is that NG created evidence the perpetrator did not think they could clean up, such as by scratching him, but I doubt an 84 y/o with limited mobility would fight through the layers we saw on the Nest camera, and even if that did happen,
    Spoiler: warning: coldly morbid

    it would be easier to deal with hands or fingers than an entire unanticipated body

jtfolden said:

There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that electric or internet was cut. There is no evidence WiFi was disabled either. People imagine scenarios and some run with it.

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