Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

Jazzy5980 · Feb 16, 2026

BellaToothless said:
Money or Attention/Fame are really the only 2. And revenge.

There is possibly a third reason. It happened to me. Mrs. Guthrie may have provided aid or comfort to someone in need and that individual became obsessed with her. I worked in a congressional office in the district. A man came to the office seeking help with his federal retirement. At first blush he appeared reasonable and calm. That changed quickly. I offered him some candy and a glass of water while waiting on the phone with the federal office. Thereafter, he started coming to the office day after day, leaving up to 15 messages on the answering machine at night, peering in the window at me at night, etc. I’m ashamed to admit I didn’t give it much thought until he followed my coworker home and asked if I lived there. The police picked him up, a hearing was held and he was committed to the state mental facility because he posed a very real threat. Ultimately it all came down to “but, she gave me the sweets.”

missy1974 · Feb 16, 2026

Gr3yW0lf78 said:
This looks like the Casita.

it's the front door, I just snipped it.

moxiemom · Feb 16, 2026

OldCop said:
Very big, if true. I’m wondering if the RR has been connected to a burglary ring and this is why they think the purpose was burglary. Maybe if it’s a ring, the RR would drop off someone to do the break-in then circle around to pick them up.
I’m still on the fence on whether this is burglary gone wrong or kidnapping.

TheDinks · Feb 16, 2026

Warshawski said:
I’m quite late to the thread so apologies if this has all been covered previously.

Do we know who opened the garage door when she got home that night ?
Do we know how it was opened ? (by a remote or was it done by phone )
Do we only have family’s word for the fact that NG went inside at this time ? And that she went through the garage door ?
( surely Police will have checked tracking data in the vehicle’s computer system )
Are there no cameras around the garage area ?
Is it possible that the offender/s were already inside ?
Has it been said there were signs inside of a struggle ?
I understand all the stuff / vision re dodgy people covering cameras etc around 2am but could that be a decoy ?

Thank you.

1. No
2. No
3. Yes
4. Don't know
5. Possible
6. Not confirmed by Sheriff but the way he spoke (imo) alluded to evidence something happened inside
7. Just about anything is possible... no rule book for this one!

MOO

BigCityAccountant · Feb 16, 2026

tbgo said:
Refresh my memory, Elder Services showed up before law enforcement got involved and declared her a missing person?

I'm not sure when this person was there. If they showed up afterwards, why was the crime scene released so quickly?

InVinoVeritas · Feb 16, 2026

Is it possible that someone saw NG leave, via the front door, and presumed she was going to be out all night. As she entered by the garage, and fairly quickly - could someone watching have been in the wrong place to see this, so effectively were surprised that anyone was home? JMO and probably far fetched, but perhaps on other occasions NG had stayed at AGs house.

squeaky · Feb 16, 2026

Bernie4life said:
First time commenting, not sure if it was discussed before. I was listening to a compilation of the dispatch calls from the day NG was reported missing. I noticed during the call, they kept saying, the time she was last seen, was 1215, not 945pm, I wonder if that was a misquote?

Also the dispatcher called for DPS assistance, which maybe why the card was left near the door.

Here is an earlier post referencing dispatch calling for DPS

Sillybilly · Feb 16, 2026

I might be missing something (i.e. a brain at this point) but I'm not buying the burglary aspect. If there to steal, he/they were inside with access to anything they would want to take. It appears Nancy was neutralizied in some manner, so why take her with them?

InVinoVeritas · Feb 16, 2026

Sillybilly said:
I might be missing something (i.e. a brain at this point) but I'm not buying the burglary aspect. If there to steal, he/they were inside with access to anything they would want to take. It appears Nancy was neutralizied in some manner, so why take her with them?

I agree with you, but potentially panic/realising who she was and the possibility of a ransom?

cady · Feb 16, 2026

BigCityAccountant said:
I'm not sure when this person was there. If they showed up afterwards, why was the crime scene released so quickly?

I keep thinking that it may have been a horrible hoax but I think it was there before the abduction. Hopefully, LE has interviewed Elder Services.....................jmo

BigCityAccountant · Feb 16, 2026

stmichael said:
Thanks. Another great insider look at the dept. Well spoken and level take by the Sgt.

96 detectives and 45 are Det.1s. Most experience inside the unit 3 years of homicide.
195 deputies on patrol. Of that 101 on probation (less than a year).

He also says he feels the rift with the FBI does come from 2016 when Nanos was investigated by the feds. And he think that investigation caused a lot of the "icy relationship we see today" and he says he thinks Nanos is using this case as a way to show up the FBI.

Sad, just truly sad. Using a family's grief and tragedy for your own benefit.

Gr3yW0lf78 · Feb 16, 2026

What if, just hypothetically, her complaint might have been about response time from the Sheriff’s Department? Only hypothetical.

Jazzy5980 · Feb 16, 2026

BellaToothless said:
Money or Attention/Fame are really the only 2. And revenge.

DBM

stmichael · Feb 16, 2026

For those interested in the Nanos controversies that caused a lot of the recent dept. turnover and dynamic with the FBI:

Here is the federal lawsuit that Sgt. Cross filed against him:

https://foxapps.file.force.com/servlet/servlet.EmailAttachmentDownload?q=aQ144BdDnrnqBbrU4WZGdDc3Bny6LBMdM0iG71xBQi5F7OcFjMzmOKZj791zd0Mj6r%2Bw6Z%2Bo8kY6401Bwa%2Fgeg%3D%3D

Here is the lawsuit Lt. Heather Lappin filed against him:

https://foxapps.file.force.com/servlet/servlet.EmailAttachmentDownload?q=aQ144BdDnrnqBbrU4WZGdN2dmIjdE%2F2GL95BkENyqn%2FM1YReilQjxiu9HC4pHkIa3byqKXqBymbmb85Cgdt5yA%3D%3D

The Arizona Attorney General opened a criminal investigation into Nanos’ handling of an alleged sexual assault of a female deputy by a sergeant in December 2022. That state investigation followed the Pima County Board of Supervisors voting to request an independent investigation into Nanos’ conduct.

Article about the election investigation of Nanos by the Pima County Board of Supervisors:

Supervisors vote to request investigation of Sheriff Nanos over election controversy - AZ Luminaria

The Pima County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously Tuesday to request an independent investigation into whether Sheriff Chris Nanos committed criminal wrongdoing when he placed his political opponent and sheriff’s department employee on leave ahead of the election. “I was hoping [Nanos]...

azluminaria.org

The FBI investigated Ramos and the Pima County PD in 2016 for missing RICO funds.

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos, seeking reelection, has a trail of lawsuits - AZ Luminaria

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos’ political tenure has won him both community support and — amid mounting lawsuits over abuses and deaths in the jail he runs — calls for his resignation. After being appointed to the position in 2015, Nanos, a Democrat, ran the next year and lost to Republican...

azluminaria.org

Nanos Fires Back at the FBI - KGUN from 2016 - He later quipped that if the FBI was "having problems doing investigations … please, call us because we have real policemen here."

Deleted member 375152 · Feb 16, 2026

If they are really closing in on someone, I feel like Savannah may be saying come forward now or give us a tip. I think they may be trying to persuade someone currently under some suspicion, or an associate to come forward.

There may be a clue that is what's happening. But I could be totally off base. Too many times we have had hopes and it's been nothing.

txsleuth70 · Feb 16, 2026

VegasGirl35 said:
I'm really curious as to how long the dealership had the RR in their inventory before selling it a few days ago.

Someone could run a Carfax and check. Used vehicles tend to show up again and be resold between dealers at several auctions until a retail sale is made on someone's lot so it's probably changed hands multiple times.

BigCityAccountant · Feb 16, 2026

missy1974 said:
I was able to go back to some of the first news stories about this case...

I found a KOLD clip that shows the card was NOT there on the 3rd.

View attachment 645433

should be cued to around 0:50

Thanks for always keeping us on track Missy!

cady · Feb 16, 2026

Sillybilly said:
I might be missing something (i.e. a brain at this point) but I'm not buying the burglary aspect. If there to steal, he/they were inside with access to anything they would want to take. It appears Nancy was neutralizied in some manner, so why take her with them?

I don't buy burglary either. As far as we know, the only thing removed from the house was Nancy. I think that was their objective. A would-be kidnapping, but she did not survive. All I can figure. jmo

missy1974 · Feb 16, 2026

squeaky said:
Here is an earlier post referencing dispatch calling for DPS

Ahhhh I wonder if we can find those dispatch calls now?

PacoElFlaco · Feb 16, 2026

Sillybilly said:
I might be missing something (i.e. a brain at this point) but I'm not buying the burglary aspect. If there to steal, he/they were inside with access to anything they would want to take. It appears Nancy was neutralizied in some manner, so why take her with them?

Possible reasons a burglar would take her away:
They realized she was the mom of a celeb and decided on the spur of the moment to kidnap her for ransom.
They killed her and did not want to leave evidence of murder.
She recognized them and they did not want to kill her but did not know what else to do besides take her away.
Their DNA or perhaps a bullet on or in the body would have incriminated them.
Taking them to an ATM, but this does not seem to have happened here.

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