Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

Chypre · Feb 16, 2026

snoopy100 said:
i'm pretty sure they ruled that guy out as being connected pretty shortly after the video was released. i'll edit when i find a source.

Thank you!

cady · Feb 16, 2026

Would NG's cardiologist have access to her pacemaker data? If pacemaker is continuing to work with its batteries would it send any data? Would absence of data indicate anything? (I have no clue about pacemakers, obviously). JMO

Napoli · Feb 16, 2026

justwannahelp said:
Yes. I find this odd. I don’t know what to make of it. I guess these fbi psychologists know more than us?

I’m a religious person. Sometimes religious people want to believe the best about everyone and everything. Maybe that’s what SG is doing right now in order to cope. It’s a coping mechanism. Poor thing.

But realistically, there’s good and there’s evil, and whoever did this is evil. Really really evil, and you can’t reason and talk sense into evil.

You can however bargain with evil. Money talks when it comes to evil criminals.

SG, .SEND THE MONEY..This cloak and dagger, Instagram, click bait, video strategy is losing it's luster and credibility. MONEY TALKS. You still don't know who the perp is and what you are dealing with. Your stalker might be well barricaded and dug in. IF the ransom writer has info, take the gamble for your mom's life. JMO

Arkay · Feb 16, 2026

K9Enzo said:
Then it signals that threats and extortion work. There are so many families with missing loved ones, even children. This risks them, and future victims.

If homeboy knows something, prove it. But they don't..... to date, it appears. IMO

I agree.

I would do anything if this were my mother, but I would HAVE TO KNOW that my mom was alive and I would need the proof of life. However that would be.

I doubt they would do so even if Nancy were still alive because it makes them traceable.

But I mean even I could write some stupid letter to Harvey Levin and claim to have Nancy, or state that I know who has her, and oh yeah, send me money.

I know the Guthries are desperate, as any of us would be in this situation, but I would want my mother home safely and not just show the next kidnapper that this is a fabulous way to become rich.

JMO

microsleuth88 · Feb 16, 2026

Hope this is allowed! Brian entin is live now with JB from WFLA discussing the case and going back through the facts. It's interesting to watch

Bluewing3102 · Feb 16, 2026

That Robinson that was flying around the mountains yesterday is circling over NG home. Albeit at 3,000 ft which is way too high for "signal sniffer" or any search effort. My guess is private owner taking a look at the house out of curiousity. JMO

Sakura2Sophia4Lucia · Feb 16, 2026

milkshakedonkey said:
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if she was taken to Mexico. That will likely create even more difficulty for LE, although I'm not knowledgeable enough to know how much cooperation there is there.

If she was alive at the time they went through Border Control and entered Mexico, NG being in Mexico would make sense. MOO

K9Enzo · Feb 16, 2026

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This scenario is not the same as NG but still proves a point about these opportunistic scams. IMO

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Chypre · Feb 16, 2026

diggndeeperstill said:
I think it’s very interesting the caption says that NEXT right thing….

This implies the kidnapper has done something right to this point, to me anyway.

"Just do the next right thing" common phrase, song, used when someone is overwhelmed or in DEEP

whitelilac · Feb 16, 2026

BenjaminJAndersonAlly said:
TMZ Receives 4th Nancy Guthrie Demand Email, Come Forward and Tell Us

TMZ has received a 4th email from the man claiming to know who kidnapped Nancy Guthrie and where she is ... and we have a proposition for that person.

www.tmz.com

"The man says he has a burglary on his record from 10 years ago, so he's scared to come forward, presumably fearing he'd be implicated."

Didn't he previously state he was afraid what the perpetrator(s) would do to him if he exposed him (them), he was in fear of his life, wanted protection from the authorities ?

Now he's afraid about his record with a 10 year ago robbery?

Why is he giving two different stories?

balaney · Feb 16, 2026

Wondering - if the glove belongs to the person on the video, if he threw it out the window of a moving car, what side of the road was it on? Would it be a driver side or passenger side? If passenger side, maybe indicates a second person that drove.

Napoli · Feb 16, 2026

investigatoroffacts said:
A go fund me was form by a man in Arizona to help raise funds for the Bitcoin. I think we all saw that coming. Since I don’t want to bring attention to it, please just Google the information to get the article and see the page.

I find this pathetic. JMO. What does a poor family do? Since everyone here feels so sorry for all involved, I would guess you are all contributing? Of course not. The 100k in one of the bitcoin ransom notes is totally manageable for an upper middle class family, not withstanding SG is worth considerably more. In the final analysis, this is a FAMILY dilemma. Take out a 100k mortgage. IF NG is dead, one way of the other, you will get your money back. ( even if it means filing a claim against her estate. JMO

Sakura2Sophia4Lucia · Feb 16, 2026

Gunther Toody said:
I think I read earlier in this thread that LE has stated without question that this is not a case of burglary gone wrong. That is unfortunate, because that is exactly what it looks like. In doing this they may be focusing on DNA of an alleged perpetrator and all the time it takes to get it, rather than the location of a medically compromised 84 yr. old woman, who must be in dire straits physically at this point.

I hope this is just a cover up ruse by police and they are actually examining the burglary aspect, or precious time will be wasted.

If this was a bungled burglary by a non-professional, he will have panicked and likely separated himself from her as quickly as possible. I hope there are search teams combing the desert with drones, FLIR, and SAR teams.

IMO, in their communication with the public and sometimes through trusted news people. LE and FBI are intentionally using language designed to frighten the perpetrator and get him to panic and make a mistake. For example, they likely are surveilling cell phones and the perp might make an only-when-frightened type phone call that could be revealing and helpful to build a case against him. Or, the perp might drive somewhere revealing or do something else that could allow LE to garner more information and evidence against him. JMO

FaviousM · Feb 16, 2026

balaney said:
Wondering - if the glove belongs to the person on the video, if he threw it out the window of a moving car, what side of the road was it on? Would it be a driver side or passenger side? If passenger side, maybe indicates a second person that drove.

I believe there was a report yesterday saying that the glove that has been sent for testing is NOT the glove that was photographed at the side of the road

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/nancy-guthrie-news-updates-02-15-26?post-id=cmlo77h6h00053b6po33pa2l3

Sakura2Sophia4Lucia · Feb 16, 2026

balaney said:
Wondering - if the glove belongs to the person on the video, if he threw it out the window of a moving car, what side of the road was it on? Would it be a driver side or passenger side? If passenger side, maybe indicates a second person that drove.

Excellent point. MOO

GrannySheri · Feb 16, 2026

NewsNation is reporting live that the signal sniffer helicopter is currently flying over Nancy Guthrie's home and surrounding area.

cady · Feb 16, 2026

Chypre said:
"Just do the next right thing" common phrase, song, used when someone is overwhelmed or in DEEP

She says "we believe" several times, but she doesn't say we believe Mom is alive. The "we believe" is about the decency of everyone and that they CAN do the right thing. ....by divulging NG's whereabouts. JMO

Jade · Feb 16, 2026

Ellis' Mom said:
IMHO, any disposable glove which has been worn by someone is likely to have DNA on it--even if worn by someone experienced in aseptic technique.
Therefore a commonly available glove that is "similar" to the one worn by the video-perp, which was found almost 2 miles from the crime scene, is likely to have DNA on it and unlikely to have anything to do with the crime--IMHO.
That's NOT to say that it shouldn't have been collected and tested; it just feels like people and the media are hanging their hopes on "this is going to break the case" when in reality it has a miniscule chance of being significant to this investigation, IMHO.
I truly want the test results to be significant and case-breaking.

No the FBI said the glove sent for testing is different from the searchers gloves:

The FBI says investigators collected “approximately 16 gloves in various areas” near the Guthrie house, but most of them were searchers’ gloves discarded in various areas when they searched the area.

According to the FBI, the one with the DNA profile recovered is different and appears to match the gloves of the subject in the surveillance video.

SOURCE: Guthrie disappearance could be result of burglary attempt

imo

stmichael · Feb 16, 2026

Marie A said:
All IMHO
Just a possibility that I can imagine happening.

I think this was a planned kidnapping of Nancy based on her daughter Savannah’s notoriety and wealth. A minimum of two people were at her home for the actual abduction but others were involved and waiting for the hostage to be delivered.
I think that Nancy put up a fight in order to not be removed from her home- hence an injury that dripped blood when they carried her out the front door. Possibly an injury to her nose.
I think Nancy was ferried across the border in a van or small truck before anyone knew she was missing.
I don’t think they took her through the heavy cameras at Nogales though but further afield near Naco or Agua Prieta.
She was taken to a rural ranch as pre-planned and ransom notes were sent to the sheriff/ law enforcement with no public acknowledgement before being sent to TMZ and local TV stations in Tucson.
I think the ransom notes via email asking for around six million dollars in cryptocurrency were the legitimate notes from Nancy’s kidnappers.
I think there was at least one designated female “care taker” waiting for Nancy to be delivered at the ranch.
It is very easy to find young “elder care” help across the border and I think that there were one or two young “nurses” in place awaiting Nancy’s arrival.
I do think they were able to keep Nancy alive for the first week of her capture- hopeful that the ransom money would be delivered. If they needed meds for her those were easily obtained in Mexico.
If leaked deadlines from the first two notes are to be believed, the second deadline of Monday passed exactly one week ago. I doubt that Nancy’s captors have faith that any money will be sent to them at this point so I sadly believed that they removed Nancy from the ranch last week and disposed of her somewhere in the dessert. The chances of ever finding her body are slim to none. They may have disposed of the nurses as collateral damage too.
The chances of ever finding her captors are slim as well. I don’t think they found any black gloves that were related to this kidnapping. The continued searches were for a so-to-speak off-chance K Bar knife sheath (or any little piece of DNA inadvertently left at the scene)
The tent set up was to cover media eyes when they re-checked Nancy’s front porch for DNA.

I truly hope they found some trace DNA from the captors and I hope they are able to find them and prosecute them. While I’m not optimistic that Nancy is still alive, I am still hopeful for a great miracle.

All good points and possibilities. I agree with the dynamic you describe south of the border. I also agree with your conclusions stemming from that.

My main contention with the footage that was published is why did the masked man on the Nest cam go to the front door with such purpose? He didn't seem to be aware of the camera so it wasn't to just disable it and the front door was in a mostly enclosed, secluded brick vestibule. Many other first story entry options including a side door to the garage with an easily breakable pane window on it. No need to go to the front door there unless he wanted to go to the door itself. It had a welded security door with a deadbolt and he went for that hard access point displaying what appears to be a firearm, which I believe was for intimidation and coercion (I was confused by his holster and carry choice, why not conceal carry and use the sidearm when necessary?).

As far as we know the security door was not breached or damaged and the decorative windows on either side were not broken (common vulnerability to reach in to open single cylinder deadbolt, takes a few seconds to gain entrance to most homes, in NG's set back secluded home the sound of the glass breaking would be negligible). Either the front door was unlocked, he had a key, lock pick, or he used coercion to enter the home;

....banged on the door with a ruse --cam was disabled at that point--a startled elderly lady finally checks and opens the door - not my PERSEC but it happens- and he brandishes the gun and she complies, maybe a struggle ensues out of the door or he hits her to show her he means business and underestimates the blow to a medically compromised 84 year old - criminals aren't smart....

The latest I've read in reports is that investigators have not confirmed any signs of forced entry (if someone can link something to the contrary I would be grateful).

Arkay · Feb 16, 2026

I’m going to have to hang on and trust the FBI on the wording and tone that Savannah is using in these latest messages to whoever took Nancy.

Personally I would find it very challenging to address the kidnappers as though they have a soft spot somewhere and that I’m appealing to their essential good nature.

To my mind, whoever has her is stone-hearted, or they wouldn’t inflict this on an elderly woman in the first place, nor torment her family.

This is not a kid who stole a cookie from the cookie jar, whom you could shame into being repentant.

But again, that’s just me, and I acquiesce to those whose careers are dealing with this and much more.

JMO

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