Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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cait2007 said:
I said this a few days ago! Makes no sense to me at all. They could’ve removed the camera from inside the doorway and none of it would’ve been on camera! Whether it was one perp or five, it doesn’t make sense for them to get that close to that camera to remove it. Huge mistake IMO, unless the perp did it intentionally for a reason we don’t know…
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If they disconnected / cut power to the door camera in advance then they wouldn't have any hesitation going to the front door.
I believe they didn't anticipate that door camera to be working.

Nancy was obviously taken out of the front door of her home, either alive or deceased, because of her blood trail leading away from her front door toward the front driveway area. 😢
 
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thefragile7393 said:
Ok that really looks like...that POI picture the forensic artist did. It could be a wild coincidence.
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had the same thought, but that's all i will say for now because like you say it's not impossible that it could in fact be a coincidence.

moo
 
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captdj said:
Wifi names can be pretty wild so he might have used a blocker and turned off the wrong wifi ( think someone posted about a court TV episode discussing a neighbors camera being off) or fumbling to determine blue light (no wifi) and green life ( wifi on) or having trouble might be a little color blind too? 🤔
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And that neighbor purportedly runs a large gem show in the area. So maybe it was right wifi wrong house?

JMO.
 
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submarine7 said:
The car LD was driving was a new purchase. When they towed it you could see there was not a normal license plate. If the car turned up evidence that might be a reason for lie detector tests.
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Edit: Never mind, I found what LD stands for.
 
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SlimPickens said:
And that neighbor purportedly runs a large gem show in the area. So maybe it was right wifi wrong house?

JMO.
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i've seen that theory too. there is no scenario or motive in which this isn't awful, but man theres something just particularly upsetting if it was a wrong house situation... 💔

moo
 
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Trino said:
DNA mismatches:

Washington state woman had two children with not the same DNA as her. Court case attempting to take her children. She was pregnant with third child, and jury members watched the birth. Same results. Not her DNA. Jury actually accused her of being a surrogate. Enter DNA specialist. Woman had two DNA present in her body. She kept her children.

DNA accused man of murder, but he was 100% in prison at time of murder. He had a twin. Identical twin's DNA did not match his either. Prosecutors had no idea. Dropped charge.

Alaska man needed a bone marrow transplant, but he had atypical DNA. Match found in Germany. Surgery to his arm. Four years later the man had completely become the donor's DNA - completely.
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GailAnne said:
I believe we actually don't know what the guy at the front door did between 1:47 and 2:22 or even if it was the same guy inside the home. It probably took the intruder several minutes to actually find a way into the home, remove interior cameras and roam around before finding Nancy which was likely about 2:22 AM. We just don't know what happened between those two times.
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Was thinking the 2:12 was the software notification that a person was spotted by a camera . Could be one of the outside cameras we saw removed but the 2:28 disconnect was when pacemaker either lost bluetooth as it updated? was it determined it notified you every minute or every few minutes.
I can leave my bluetooth area and return and my device doesn't know until my phone tries to send data every 5 minutes. This is a cgm not a pacemaker thou. Would 2:28 notification have some wiggle room as being exact time she left her bluetooth area or when her app tried to connect to receive data?
So is that 16 minutes max inside if 2:12 was still an outside camera. I would think inside cameras if she had any..didn't have notifications enabled because she walks around inside and those phone software notifications pings would drive her crazy. and also because the sheriff time line never mentioned any notifications of her walking inside other than garage opening and closing. Only giving us the 2:12 one from a camera..

I don't believe it was the doorcam because I thought sheriff described 1:47 was time the doorcam was disabled meaning destroyed or battery removed ..
But the sheriff was vague at times.
 
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K.jill said:
Does anyone know how low a helicopter needs to fly for a signal sniffer?
Could they use a drone?
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I was just thinking they should put them on drones. I'm also unsure what areas they have already searched. There was a map in here earlier today (I'm sorry I can't remember who posted it) that showed a flight path in the Tucson area and I'm wondering if more area has been covered.
 
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DBM
 
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Was the Gem Neighbour away that night that NG disappeared? Would explain if they had the wrong house and were not expecting anyone. If they were home, then that is irrelevant.

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factseeking said:
I was just thinking they should put them on drones. I'm also unsure what areas they have already searched. There was a map in here earlier today (I'm sorry I can't remember who posted it) that showed a flight path in the Tucson area and I'm wondering if more area has been covered.
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Take a read of this article. Search for the word "drone" within the article and some interesting info comes up.

www.wdbj7.com

FBI using ‘signal sniffer’ technology to search for Nancy Guthrie’s pacemaker

The FBI's use of new technology could be a turning point in narrowing down the timeline of Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance and where she might be now.
www.wdbj7.com www.wdbj7.com
 
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SlimPickens said:
And that neighbor purportedly runs a large gem show in the area. So maybe it was right wifi wrong house?

JMO.
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I don’t think this is likely if we are assuming at least some of the ransom notes were legitimate. I would also think there is probably some logical middle ground between “oops we robbed the wrong house” and “better kidnap the sole occupant and hold her for ransom.”

JMO
 
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I guess I can't hold it against LE for still offering/conducting them, but polygraphs (personally) mean nothing to me, more or less. I know LE swears they use them to "help weed everyone out", but also it's pretty well-established that they're borderline meaningless, which is why they're not allowed as evidence in anything that counts for anything.

So. If they're giving people polygraphs, good for them, I guess. I hope it gives them data they can use. To me this just means they don't know for sure who did this and are hoping to stress someone out enough to make a mistake (totally reasonable and fair; also has NOTHING to do with whether or not polygraphs work as claimed).
 
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