Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

Napoli said:

It could also have started in Mexico. He/they came here, abducted her and went back to Mexico? Not easy to show proof of life if she isn't alive. Assuming she's on blood thinners and I think she is, even an elbow to her nose as they jostled her to take her away can cause COPIOUS bleeding that is hard to quell. A fall can theoretically cause extreme internal bleeding. No Mexican medicine can cure that. She would need a hospital. Still looking for ransom, anyway. I don't think she's in Mexico.

Those Instagram messages from SG's family to the perp make me doubt this was a cartel or drug or political kidnaping. The fact the brother and sister are absent from the last couple of videos makes me think it's not a grudge or revenge or military thing like a former pilot from the national guard who served with the brother. This is a targeted kidnaping by someone who wants the attention from SG. Stalker? Groupie type that has gone rogue? Jealous colleague or acquaintance? Best angle here is examine the motive. I do not think he was bungling. I think he was pretty damn effective. JMO MOO

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armchairagatha said:

The most obvious motive is kidnapping for ransom. I think there was another note again yesterday, demanding money. If it was a stalker gone rogue, surely he would have not asked for ransom, but instead sent a public message to Savannah about his obsession for her or something? Occam's razor says this was kidnapping for ransom but NG died early on and that messed up the kidnappers' plans. They are still hoping they can get some cash (ransom) for their efforts. MOO.

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FaviousM said:

I mean maybe they just didn't know she needed medication at the time of the abduction

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armchairagatha said:

Occam's razor says this was kidnapping for ransom but NG died early on and that messed up the kidnappers' plans.

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wibbleflea said:

Two notes from someone claiming to have NG, and four (that we know of) from someone offering to provide the identities and perhaps location of the kidnappers. Yesterday’s was one of the latter.

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MassGuy said:

On that report that claimed someone searched Nancy Guthrie’s name prior to her abduction.
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Nancy Guthrie update: Google responds to search claims before disappearance

A Google spokesperson told Newsweek why a spike in a Google Trends chart is not “definitive evidence” of a search.

www.newsweek.com

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penguinface said:

I thought yesterday’s was claiming to be from the kidnapper again, from the amount that they’re asking for being ~$6 million in crypto, and them directly threatening to harm NG in the new message, rather than just saying time is crucial in saving her, like the “snitch” messages did.

JMO

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VioletBoxcar said:

IMO this is not cartel related. If it is, someone in her immediate family is most likely involved in a cartel in some way. I live in Tucson and I grew up in Nogales and most of my immediate family live there/Rio Rico. Although I grew up with people involved in dealing drugs and weapons I have never been afraid of being attacked by cartel. Maybe it’s from growing up on the border and spending a lot of time in mx in my teens and young adult years but I don’t believe they are a huge threat to people not involved. I know there have been innocent people killed but that is rare. I do know of instances where innocent people have been shot by being caught in the crossfire at restaurants. All that to say- I don’t believe cartel would target someone who was in no way associated through family, work, etc.

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SlimPickens said:

This sounds like a PR/legal department response to alleviate public concerns and/or criticisms over the ease and speed with which Google spits out what many folks perceive (naively) to be private information. Even if it is public information, it doesn't necessarily mean Google has an implicit or explicit right to publish and make it available to anyone who searches for it on their platform. I imagine that might need to be determined, particularly if making the information readily available could've contributed to a crime. Governments are protected if they make information like that available to anyone - businesses may or may not be.

The Google searches of NG and SG, if from the same source and especially considering their dates and proximities to the crime, aren't likely coincidences.

JMO.

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Mistermagoo said:

SO crazy. Even though I tend to believe it was a planned kidnapping, these are the type of points that start making me think the other way. Let's be blunt here. It is an 84 year old woman. She would not be too hard to control, imo. We know the perp(s) have a gun. It should be as easy as holding the gun and telling her that they are taking her. They can even tell her that we are gonna be holding you for ransom, please grab any medication that you will need, I mean, it is an 84 year old woman. The fact that it wasn't as simple as that, and there is actual blood at the scene, when again it should be a fairly easy situation to control, makes me start thinking the other way.

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penguinface said:

I thought yesterday’s was claiming to be from the kidnapper again, from the amount that they’re asking for being ~$6 million in crypto, and them directly threatening to harm NG in the new message, rather than just saying time is crucial in saving her, like the “snitch” messages did.

JMO

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The Missing Canoe said:

New person here, very new to this type of theorizing, so JMO it appears the lines are wide and not parallel until the curve in front of the tree in the bottom right of the photo attributed to Page Six earlier (and attached here). At that point they are much narrower although may not be exactly parallel.

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thefragile7393 said:

Cartel problems are real but it's exactly as you described. The whole border/cartel claims anytime something happens here gets ridiculous (however in this case perps fleeing to mexico IMO could be real).

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