Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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ilgirl said:
Brian just said on the NewsNation special that one of his producers saw the lady from Adult Protective Services put the card in the door.
-Listen at around 48 mins.
www.newsnationnow.com

Nancy Guthrie case: Viewers’ questions answered

NewsNation’s Brian Entin and a special panel fielded inquiries about the missing person’s case.
www.newsnationnow.com www.newsnationnow.com
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A video is not showing up for me. Do you have a direct link that you could share? Please and Thank you.
 
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sdmike1974 said:
I ask rhetorically, am I the only one who wonders how many other times over the years AG called her mom to tell her she'd have to use Uber for Friday night's game night with AG and her SIL at their house a short distance away?
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I would say it's an assumption that AG would call her mother to ask her to take an Uber. Perhaps, NG offered to take an Uber to go to AG's house to maintain her independence. Who knows? Why are we even delving into conjectures about family dynamics?

As far as I'm concerned, LE has cleared the Guthrie family, and that's where it stands. I don't think it's fair to try to find a fifth leg on a cat just because it's a slow news night. Everyone is frustrated, and NG's entire family isn't sitting around having fun while this is unfolding.

  • They have been victims of a crime.
  • Their mother might be dead and her body can't be found.
  • Their mother might be alive and suffering.
  • Perfect strangers feel completely comfortable dissecting presence, absence, silence, words just because SG is a journalist and a public figure.
  • Every time the phone rings they have to hold their breath waiting to see if there are any news.
These are adult children of an elderly woman who has been abducted and suffered an act of violence in her home. She's disappeared. She might never be found. They have to deal with this as her children, but also as the parents of her grandchildren and with the whole world watching.

Can we PLEASE, for the love of whatever it is each and every one of us believes in, stop speculating about the family? Put yourselves in their shoes for a second.

Imagine that once (in the most banal way) you did something to a parent, whether it's tell them to go to CVS themselves, or take an Uber, or not call until after 9 a.m. because you want to sleep in, or not answer the phone because you were just not in the mood, and then...Lord help us...something happens to that parent and the whole world starts speculating about how crappy you were to them and maybe you had something to do with what has happened.

My mother has been dead, of natural causes, for nearly ten years, and I still torture myself about the times I rolled my eyes at her chatter. Do we REALLY think that her children are not completely floored by the little things they did/didn't do while NG is missing?

These people, famous though they may be, are dealing with their mother's disappearance, and 100% guaranteed they have revisited every what if ad nauseam...all while the whole world is watching. There is not a bit of peace available to them right now, and it's heartbreaking.
 
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Scooby-Doo said:
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This is disgraceful!

The Governor or Attorney General should be brought in

They need to stand this Sheriff down

Let the FBI take full control now

Personally, I would be taking Legal Action If it were my family member

I don't know why the Gurthrie family isn't getting more involved on whats happening with this investigation into their poor mother

This sheriff is picking which networks he wants to talk to

Instead of holding Media Conferences. Communication is the key!

I also feel very sad for the neighbours who have not slept and are scared of what has happened to Nancy.

We still have not been told if this was a forced entry or not

We haven't even been told what clothes Nancy was wearing when she went out.

What a mess!
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I don't think we know the Guthrie family isn't extremely involved. In fact JMO they are absolutely as involved as a family can get in a kidnapping.

We can't expect to know everything and we can't expect to know why LE is holding back certain things. IMO holding back info is normal investigatory process.

It's frustrating though I agree. We want to solve and it's very hard to do without all the known facts. We just have to be patient.
 
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sdmike1974 said:
I ask rhetorically, am I the only one who wonders how many other times over the years AG called her mom to tell her she'd have to use Uber for Friday night's game night with AG and her SIL at their house a short distance away?

Consider the following:

Footnote:
Yes, I know the Sheriff has softened that statement since he made it eight days ago.
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Is there a source that AG called her mom to tell her to use an Uber? I’ve been away so missed that.

Also, sheriff didn’t “soften” that statement from 8 days ago, he said NG’s kids and spouses were clear four days ago:

tucson.com

Nancy Guthrie search enters 3rd week: Pima County investigators clear family as new DNA leads emerge

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos has officially ruled out the family of "Today" show co-anchor Savannah Guthrie as suspects in her mother's abduction. As the investigation shifts, authorities are now
tucson.com tucson.com

Has that changed?
 
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wibbleflea said:
I still think there may be something to the gem-show angle. Someone posted footage here of two people suspected of taking a box from the show a few days after NG’s disappearance. The footwear, clothing and gait are all interesting, let’s say. But the post was deleted.
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I hadn't read about this gem show theory. Very interesting!

JMO
 
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Athos65 said:
I would say it's an assumption that AG would call her mother to ask her to take an Uber. Perhaps, NG offered to take an Uber to go to AG's house to maintain her independence. Who knows? Why are we even delving into conjectures about family dynamics?

As far as I'm concerned, LE has cleared the Guthrie family, and that's where it stands. I don't think it's fair to try to find a fifth leg on a cat just because it's a slow news night. Everyone is frustrated, and NG's entire family isn't sitting around having fun while this is unfolding.

  • They have been victims of a crime.
  • Their mother might be dead and her body can't be found.
  • Their mother might be alive and suffering.
  • Perfect strangers feel completely comfortable dissecting presence, absence, silence, words just because SG is a journalist and a public figure.
  • Every time the phone rings they have to hold their breath waiting to see if there are any news.
These are adult children of an elderly woman who has been abducted and suffered an act of violence in her home. She's disappeared. She might never be found. They have to deal with this as her children, but also as the parents of her grandchildren and with the whole world watching.

Can we PLEASE, for the love of whatever it is each and every one of us believes in, stop speculating about the family? Put yourselves in their shoes for a second.

Imagine that once (in the most banal way) you did something to a parent, whether it's tell them to go to CVS themselves, or take an Uber, or not call until after 9 a.m. because you want to sleep in, or not answer the phone because you were just not in the mood, and then...Lord help us...something happens to that parent and the whole world starts speculating about how crappy you were to them and maybe you had something to do with what has happened.

My mother has been dead, of natural causes, for nearly ten years, and I still torture myself about the times I rolled my eyes at her chatter. Do we REALLY think that her children are not completely floored by the little things they did/didn't do while NG is missing?

These people, famous though they may be, are dealing with their mother's disappearance, and 100% guaranteed they have revisited every what if ad nauseam...all while the whole world is watching. There is not a bit of peace available to them right now, and it's heartbreaking.
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So well put thank you so much for posting.
 
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Athos65 said:
I would say it's an assumption that AG would call her mother to ask her to take an Uber. Perhaps, NG offered to take an Uber to go to AG's house to maintain her independence. Who knows? Why are we even delving into conjectures about family dynamics?

As far as I'm concerned, LE has cleared the Guthrie family, and that's where it stands. I don't think it's fair to try to find a fifth leg on a cat just because it's a slow news night. Everyone is frustrated, and NG's entire family isn't sitting around having fun while this is unfolding.

  • They have been victims of a crime.
  • Their mother might be dead and her body can't be found.
  • Their mother might be alive and suffering.
  • Perfect strangers feel completely comfortable dissecting presence, absence, silence, words just because SG is a journalist and a public figure.
  • Every time the phone rings they have to hold their breath waiting to see if there are any news.
These are adult children of an elderly woman who has been abducted and suffered an act of violence in her home. She's disappeared. She might never be found. They have to deal with this as her children, but also as the parents of her grandchildren and with the whole world watching.

Can we PLEASE, for the love of whatever it is each and every one of us believes in, stop speculating about the family? Put yourselves in their shoes for a second.

Imagine that once (in the most banal way) you did something to a parent, whether it's tell them to go to CVS themselves, or take an Uber, or not call until after 9 a.m. because you want to sleep in, or not answer the phone because you were just not in the mood, and then...Lord help us...something happens to that parent and the whole world starts speculating about how crappy you were to them and maybe you had something to do with what has happened.

My mother has been dead, of natural causes, for nearly ten years, and I still torture myself about the times I rolled my eyes at her chatter. Do we REALLY think that her children are not completely floored by the little things they did/didn't do while NG is missing?

These people, famous though they may be, are dealing with their mother's disappearance, and 100% guaranteed they have revisited every what if ad nauseam...all while the whole world is watching. There is not a bit of peace available to them right now, and it's heartbreaking.
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Magnificent!!! Exactly!!!

I would lavish this post in gold if I knew how, but at least I can give it a gold star.

IMO of course.
 
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ilgirl said:
Brian just said on the NewsNation special that one of his producers saw the lady from Adult Protective Services put the card in the door.
-Listen at around 48 mins.
www.newsnationnow.com

Nancy Guthrie case: Viewers’ questions answered

NewsNation’s Brian Entin and a special panel fielded inquiries about the missing person’s case.
www.newsnationnow.com www.newsnationnow.com
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I can't see a video on the link (maybe because I'm in Canada?) but THANK GOODNESS! I recall him saying this that first week and had looked everywhere, but it may have been a live hit and just no clip anywhere because it really so very insignificant. Other than she was actually able to walk up to the house, like the amazon delivery guy and media, IMO
 
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I see the CSI effect is in full force in here tonight 🤣
 
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Elisaa444 said:
I understand that LE want the search done by the pros, but IF it was my family and we are at the 3 week mark - then I'd be thankful any organized volunteer group wanted to donate their time to find my loved one and I just wonder how much searching the Sheriff's office has done. IF I remember correctly they called off searching early on and I haven't seen any searches going on (of course, that does NOT mean searches are not taking place.) IF they were taking place you'd think the Sheriff's office would come out and say we are searching high and low and everywhere in-between for Nancy.

**No, I don't think random people should be out searching for Nancy, but if it is a real organized volunteer group I'd certainly work quickly with them to get the red tape completed so they can search.

I've been thinking it was strange that we aren't seeing searches this entire time. So odd.

Set aside LE, set aside the Sheriff, set aside the FBI - this is about Nancy.....Are they doing all they can to find her? Where is Nancy? (These are not real questions. These are questions I ponder while we wait for Nancy to be found!)

JMO >
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I agree, do a lot more ground searches. I responded to another post just about a minute ago, look at trailheads, abandoned barns, dump sites,
SRWCF said:
Wouldn't be the first time that happened in a case, unfortunately.
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I’m remembering Richard Allen, Delphi case, he talked to a Park Ranger seeking tips, as all who walked the trails that day were asked to give a statement. It can be noted, Allen did not want to speak to an official LE, sheriff. Instead, he gave his statement at a pop up info booth, seeking tips re the crime, outside of a grocery store, 2 days after the crime. He checked off his “due diligence”, said he walked the trails, didn’t see anything.

Lived and worked within 1-2 miles away. The tip was hand written on legal pad, put into a paper file, “ lostfor 5 years! When Delphi finally had fresh eyes on the case, someone found this tip! Richard Allen was the “bridge guy”all along, looked just like him, 5 years to unearth this very important tip! Convicted! He was the perp all along. Allen had continued to work for 5 years, 2 miles away at a CVS store as an assistant pharmacy tech. Everyone in town knew him. Ugh! 😩

The lesson, don’t give tips or statements to Park Rangers, wildlife staff, etc, although they are considered LE, they are not in the business of solving crimes most of the time. All tips should go to crime solving LE, sheriff.

Most of you know this whole story. Just an important lesson about, every tip is important!
It only takes one “good” tip to solve a case.

JMO
 
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Scooby-Doo said:
View attachment 647370
This is disgraceful!

The Governor or Attorney General should be brought in

They need to stand this Sheriff down

Let the FBI take full control now

Personally, I would be taking Legal Action If it were my family member

I don't know why the Gurthrie family isn't getting more involved on whats happening with this investigation into their poor mother

This sheriff is picking which networks he wants to talk to

Instead of holding Media Conferences. Communication is the key!

I also feel very sad for the neighbours who have not slept and are scared of what has happened to Nancy.

We still have not been told if this was a forced entry or not

We haven't even been told what clothes Nancy was wearing when she went out.

What a mess!
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SG needs to hire a private investigator.
 
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We have so many devices in our homes anymore that have cameras, microphones, and connectivity. Consider the following:

Desktop computers
Laptops and Tablets
SMART cellphones
Apple Watch
Fitness bracelets
Streaming devices like Apple TV, Roku
Virtual assistants like Alexa or NEST
SMART TV's
SMART refrigerators or ovens
SMART lighting
SMART speakers
Robot vacuum
Wireless thermostats
Vehicles (ETA per @SaraSmile - thanks!)

Certainly NG must have had more of these than we know for certain (phone, watch).

Is it likely LE is attempting to retrieve data that might have been collected from any of these in an attempt to determine WHO and HOW MANY were in NG's home the night of Jan 31/February 1? I wonder if "exceptions to the usual" faces/voices could be whittled out of that data?
 
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I remember in the Delphi case, one tip that came in, was entered into the database and was missed for years. Thus the delay in identifying the perp. I believe it was due to who it was reported to, how it was entered, sorted, cataloged or something to that effect. JMO because I didn't follow that case in depth so I'm going off memory.

When I read the headline about LE telling people to stop calling 911 with their suggestions, opinions, theories, or whatever they were speculating on, it made me think of how the tips are being tracked.

In this case the sheer volume of tips have to be entered into software, at least I would think so. I know from working in Excel for decades, sorting data and putting it into tables and picking pieces out to put into a chart, is very involved.

I wonder if they have people entering the information, someone verifying it was not only entered, but entered accurately and sorted and maintained with proper spellings of names, streets, etc. It has to be overwhelming and very stressful on the data team.
 
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turaj said:
I think it is time f or SG and family to ask for someone else to take over the case. Today Nanos said they don't want search parties going out. This case is going cold.
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Why wouldn't search parties be welcome because the sheriff isn't doing them?
 
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Arkay said:
IMO a starry night is one of the most beautiful sights to see from Earth.

I’ve only been privileged to see it when I’ve traveled or visited friends who live in rural areas.

As a lifelong New Yorker, we typically see one or two stars, and on an exceptionally clear night, maybe three.

I love the notion of a planned community of darkness so that every night the starry sky is visible. I imagine this intentional darkness was established long before the onset of home doorbell cameras and all the other surveillance such as traffic cams.

I suppose it didn’t seem likely that an awful event like this would happen there, and that the lack of light would so compromise investigating the who, what and why of this attack. The when and the original where is known, but that’s it. We don’t know the whereabouts of Nancy now at all.

I’d have to say that forfeiting that luscious view feels more worth it to me now. I don’t feel “Big Brother” is watching me; instead I feel much more safe.

My favorite picture at MOMA is Van Gogh’s “The Starry Night,” which I’ve always found so bucolic. Now I am feeling that the deep and complete darkness can be sinister.

JMO of course.
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I love the night sky too. You describe it so well.

I don't think that dark sky-compliant lighting compromises security. It just requires that light be directed downward. Outside lights will still illuminate people and vehicles at ground level. Motion-activated lights also enhance security without contributing to light pollution. Dark sky-compliant lighting did not make residents of NG's neighborhood especially vulnerable to crime, IMO.

Nor did the lack of streetlights. The absence of streetlights is not that remarkable, IME. Streetlights are common in urban areas and suburbs. In small towns generally, only village centers have streetlights. And rural areas I'm familiar with, streetlights are not common.

IMO dark sky lighting and lack of streetlights were not significant factors in selecting NG's house as a target. The setbacks, natural vegetation, houses sited in harmony with the terrain may have been. Large, open lawns offering long sightlines to the street may be common in suburban areas but not necessarily the norm everywhere. My experience only.
 
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missy1974 said:
I can't see a video on the link (maybe because I'm in Canada?) but THANK GOODNESS! I recall him saying this that first week and had looked everywhere, but it may have been a live hit and just no clip anywhere because it really so very insignificant. Other than she was actually able to walk up to the house, like the amazon delivery guy and media, IMO
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I can’t see video either, but scroll down and it says this, confirming what @ilgirl posted:

“Entin says a member of his crew saw a person leave the card at the residence after Guthrie disappeared.”
 
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www.newsweek.com

Nancy Guthrie update: Ex-FBI agent reveals "number one" lead in search

Former FBI agent Jennifer Coffindaffer told Newsweek that a Range Rover towed by authorities could provide key evidence.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com


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Jennifer Coffindaffer told Newsweek that the vehicle is, in her view, the most significant lead for law enforcement at the moment.

“The number one lead, I believe, is the Range Rover that was taken,” she said.

She added: “What I think is most disconcerting is the fact that they put a tarp on the back when they opened up that vehicle. I believe that's because of something they saw in that vehicle and they were concerned for witnesses, passersby, YouTubers, everyone else who was around the scene to see what was inside that vehicle.”
 
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News Nation broke down Brian Entin's special tonight by question and posted videos here, in case you missed them:
www.newsnationnow.com

Nancy Guthrie case: Viewers’ questions answered

NewsNation’s Brian Entin and a special panel fielded inquiries about the missing person’s case.
www.newsnationnow.com www.newsnationnow.com
 
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