Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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royalpurple209 said:
Could it be possible, the suspect at the door has on extra clothing to alter their appearance. if you take notice when their left leg takes the step up it does not bend normal, and on the end photo with the stand-alone person the legs are a slight thinner, tell me about your intake on this this.
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I have thought all along that there was padding involved as part of disguise.
 
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MassGuy said:
That’s what happens when you put that much money out there.

And precisely why they didn’t do it right away.
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Some criminologist should do a study.

Who "wants" to get involved?... at this stage, are looky-loos willing to reach out and leave a false tip just for some notoriety/to feel central to some story's beating heart; or is the default assumption that the overwhelming majority of people won't throw up false lead flags in such a situation, because the default desire/level of people is "not to get involved" and not to invite scrutiny?
 
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Hoping that the amount of money out there will cause people to focus on real, actionable tips not just speculation. You know, get serious.
 
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Pharmasgirl said:
Our 'Nextdoor' is nationwide as far as I know... Definitely midwest & w. coast included.
One doesn't have to be too tech savvy to partake.
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Regarding Nextdoor, I recall reading an article weeks ago, that said NG had posted something about a misdelivered Amazon package on there. Apparently, she was an active member. I wonder if it that could've been another way to case the property--impersonate a delivery driver? Just a random thought.
 
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VeronicaVaughn said:
I wondered if it might be because the perpetrator is/could be somewhat ambidextrous.

MOO. Edited for verbiage.
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If he is ambidexterous and from the US, such people often play multiple sports in high school. Coaches tend to seek them out, even if they do not want to take on another sport.
 
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royalpurple209 said:
Could it be possible, the suspect at the door has on extra clothing to alter their appearance. if you take notice when their left leg takes the step up it does not bend normal, and on the end photo with the stand-alone person the legs are a slight thinner, tell me about your intake on this this.
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In my experience following cases, usually that's not something a suspect would normally do. Wearing a disguise, absolutely that's extremely common.

But next level thinking like lets add some bulkiness to it etc just not what's normally in their mind.

It's just very basic disguise like hide my face wear clothing that hides all body parts etc.

But rarely is it make me look like I weigh 250 when I only weigh 200.

Just my opinion based on the many cases I've followed
 
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VeronicaVaughn said:
I have actually wondered the opposite, meaning - would a potential suspect be likely to *unfollow* people on social media, trying to look like they're creating distance?

Just a thought I've been ruminating on.
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That’s a good point! I think that would be easier to investigate!
 
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MassGuy said:
That’s what happens when you put that much money out there.

And precisely why they didn’t do it right away.
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Yeah at this point in time they don't care about volume imo.

They are looking for hey I didn't want to get involved but my friend said this and I thought he was joking but he has details that haven't been released and it made me uncomfortable. I think you need to check him out.
 
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MassGuy said:
That’s what happens when you put that much money out there.

And precisely why they didn’t do it right away.
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I'd rather sort through a million tips to get one arrest than sort through fifty thousand tips to get no arrests.

JMO.
 
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Just my random opinion, but perhaps the point of taking NG was simply that someone wanted SG to suffer? If so, her videos are feeding into what they set out to achieve. Don't know who would hate SG that intensely, but it could range from a mentally ill person to someone like a former fired coworker who felt intensely betrayed by SG and is trying to make a media comeback. Will be very interesting to see if SG returns to TV and if not, who fills the chair. Always useful to look at motive, means, opportunity. Just my opinions, thinking outside of theories already discussed on here, fwiw.
 
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squareandrabbet said:
Some criminologist should do a study.

Who "wants" to get involved?... at this stage, are looky-loos willing to reach out and leave a false tip just for some notoriety/to feel central to some story's beating heart; or is the default assumption that the overwhelming majority of people won't throw up false lead flags in such a situation, because the default desire/level of people is "not to get involved" and not to invite scrutiny?
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I submitted a tip during the Idaho murders. Turned out to be way off base but it was in my opinion a lead worth following at the time. I was just trying to be helpful and I would imagine there’s people like me submitting tips here. And there’s definitely some kooks looking to feel like they’re involved in the case.
 
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watson1 said:
Just my random opinion, but perhaps the point of taking NG was simply that someone wanted SG to suffer? If so, her videos are feeding into what they set out to achieve. Don't know who would hate SG that intensely, but it could range from a mentally ill person to someone like a former fired coworker who felt intensely betrayed by SG and is trying to make a media comeback. Will be very interesting to see if SG returns to TV and if not, who fills the chair. Always useful to look at motive, means, opportunity. Just my opinions, thinking outside of theories already discussed on here, fwiw.
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RBBM

I have thought this since the first week. And I'm afraid that the continuation of the suffering that would come with absolutely no closure will give this sadist even more delight.

Keeping in mind, this is IMO only.

P.S. I'm not saying that the suffering ends with the knowledge of what happened, but the never knowing would be, IMO, the worst form of suffering.

imo/jmo/speculation
 
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EncyclopediaBrownJr said:
I submitted a tip during the Idaho murders. Turned out to be way off base but it was in my opinion a lead worth following at the time. I was just trying to be helpful and I would imagine there’s people like me submitting tips here. And there’s definitely some kooks looking to feel like they’re involved in the case.
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The most useful tips are the ones that have some intimate knowledge of a potential suspect. It's extremely rare that it comes from some rando who is just a true crime nut (myself included).

The tips they are looking for is someone that is intimately familiar with a perp or has some specific detail about the crime,

Anything that is released by LE videos, still images etc, I can't state this enough, they have the brightest and most skilled people working on it and a obscured tattoo, flashlight, possible ring on finger etc their experts already identified it long before the general public ever received that information.

If you don't know the person you are submitting the tip about you are most likely only hindering the investigation.

All Moo based on the many investigations I have followed
 
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watson1 said:
Just my random opinion, but perhaps the point of taking NG was simply that someone wanted SG to suffer? If so, her videos are feeding into what they set out to achieve. Don't know who would hate SG that intensely, but it could range from a mentally ill person to someone like a former fired coworker who felt intensely betrayed by SG and is trying to make a media comeback. Will be very interesting to see if SG returns to TV and if not, who fills the chair. Always useful to look at motive, means, opportunity. Just my opinions, thinking outside of theories already discussed on here, fwiw.
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This an old theory on this thread but still a good one, I think. Could be personal or somewhat political.
 
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SlimPickens said:
I'd rather sort through a million tips to get one arrest than sort through fifty thousand tips to get no arrests.

JMO.
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Get that all at once, and you have a massive mess on your hands.

Initial tips that aren't motivated by money are likely to be real and actionable. Throw a reward out there and you increase the volume, lower the quality, and put you way behind the 8 ball.

In no universe would I offer this much money right away.
 
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Han said:
Hoping that the amount of money out there will cause people to focus on real, actionable tips not just speculation. You know, get serious.
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One would hope so, but it seems like it often does the opposite. If they can think of anyone they know with brown eyes and a mustache, some idiots are going to call it in...Soon you have chaos.

A million dollars is hard to ignore---so to add to the above, many morons will call in tips about their ex-boyfriends or mean bosses for the thrill of it. And the fantasy about getting them arrested and winning a million bucks as a reward. :rolleyes:
 
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MassGuy said:
Get that all at once, and you have a massive mess on your hands.

Initial tips that aren't motivated by money are likely to be real and actionable. Throw a reward out there and you increase the volume, lower the quality, and put you way behind the 8 ball.

In no universe would I offer this much money right away.
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Yeah if you have viable leads you absolutely don't do this from the start.

You do this when you are at a crossroads and hope to strike lightening in a bottle.

They are likely now prioritizing tips that are very specific. You throw that line out with your last big worm and hope it attracts the big fish.

It's a hail Mary of sorts
 
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ab01 said:
Yeah if you have viable leads you absolutely don't do this from the start.

You do this when you are at a crossroads and hope to strike lightening in a bottle.

They are likely now prioritizing tips that are very specific. You throw that line out with your last big worm and hope it attracts the big fish.

It's a hail Mary of sorts
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This is coming from the family who doesn't have much more info than the public so maybe they are afraid things are at a standstill.
 
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Starkville said:
Does anyone know who dropped her off, and why so late? I wonder if it was a special celebration. Usually elderly people don’t stay up that late.
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It was reported so fast because she missed Sunday church that next morning which apparently she never missed.
 
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watson1 said:
Just my random opinion, but perhaps the point of taking NG was simply that someone wanted SG to suffer? If so, her videos are feeding into what they set out to achieve. Don't know who would hate SG that intensely, but it could range from a mentally ill person to someone like a former fired coworker who felt intensely betrayed by SG and is trying to make a media comeback. Will be very interesting to see if SG returns to TV and if not, who fills the chair. Always useful to look at motive, means, opportunity. Just my opinions, thinking outside of theories already discussed on here, fwiw.
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I've thought similar thoughts.

I hope they've been looking at any creepy fan letters or gifts, etc. Lots of stalker type weirdos could target SG. If someone felt rejected by her, they might get vindictive.

Often it is a manager or a security member that does the rejection---SG may not even know about it or even open her fan mail herself.

I hope someone has been going back over any letters/gifts/emails etc. Anyone who was persistent, then aggressive and angry?


ETA:::And if they were sulking and resentful, then saw the December Specials about SG and her Mom in her hometown, the angry fan could have easily found NG's address.
 
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