I don't think it's a kidnapping. I think it's an abduction and, to me, it has an 'LE' feel to it in that whoever it is knew what NOT to do. They either watch a lot of true crime TV re investigations and what is involved with evidence, etc or they have some first hand knowledge in their background before they went off the deep end and gave in to settling a score. NG may be collateral damage so-to-speak This may not be directed to the Guthries at all but to someone else entirely.
Two retired PC LE on STS said there are some cameras in Tucson, including red light cameras and license readers.
Nah, I'm enjoying reading all the discussion, it's interesting to hear people bring up their own ideas and experiences. I do believe you
Throwing this out there. I work with stained glass and cut myself frequently. Different injuries do different things. That thin drop spatter looks exactly like a pattern I once got when the blood was dripping off my hand, and I brought my fingers up then gave it a flick shake straight down. Big drops fell off and a thin pattern spatter happened. Lots more blood drops ensued. I'm not saying this is what happened here, but if you were fireman's carrying someone and blood was dripping off a hanging hand, and you didn't want it on you, you might hurriedly shift or shake the hand or the hand could have been hit by a closing screen security door resulting in that same movement. Just a thought.
It certainly makes more sense that she went out the front door. I can't think of a good reason not to go that route. It'd be rare for the front door to be, say, locked with a keyed deadbolt and the suspect didn't have access to the key. I doubt Nancy's doors are set up that way. Perhaps it was happenstance that blood missed the threshold and hit the mat instead. After all, there really isn't that much blood.
Absolutely. I definitely am leaning more toward the fireman carry theory for those reasons you specify. The sweeping/arcing makes more sense to me that someone walking under their own power.
I can't remember who it was, but someone theorized that there might be square patterns in a few of the drops that might be indicative of a pattern on a shoe sole. JMO/MOO
Luckily, SG is wealthy enough to self-insure the property and not worry about any of that if it were to come to that. As of now I doubt the premiums are going up because she is just considered missing-- what if she were in the hospital for a couple months or on vacation overseas? The house would technically be unoccupied but the insurance company wouldn't consider it so.
So did the abductor lock the door behind them?
I’m attaching a copy of @warp3dwing’s excellent graphic which I rotated 180° to give a perspective of exiting Nancy Guthrie’s front door from inside and a copy of a photo from Fox News Digital which shows the front door of her home. Entering from the front the door knob is to your right. Exiting it is to your left. Some folks have speculated PG is left handed. Picture him in the doorway facing out. He has Nancy over his left shoulder in a fireman’s carry. He reaches across his body and opens the door with his right hand and pushes it outward. He pivots right holding on to the door as he steps out, which would swing Mrs Guthrie to the left of the front door, head down. He pulls the door closed behind him stepping out on to the porch still facing more to the right. He then brings his stride forward towards the street. He does not step in Mrs Guthrie’s blood in this scenario. Thoughts?
I don't believe that information has been released.
1. did not have the keys?
Re: the square print impressions ^
Your analysis sounds right on to me. The recording that was released yesterday from outside the wall surrounding a home, within a feet of the road.
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In the door video, he is clutching the gun holster in his left hand- grabbing at the doorbell camera with his right....I would guess (?) the gun hand is the dominant hand ....but just a guess. Is it possible he could not find a lefty holster and that kind of led to his funky carry position (looks like a righty holster) or is the lantana right hand the dominant one?
Great idea to rotate the image! Just that one change of perspective is really helpful.
Your post really got my mind turning and led me to consider an entirely different possibility. What if the person seen on the porch never actually went inside the house?
