• #43,802
Surely a damaged utility junction box and a real physical outage would be reported with and dealt with day one?? Especially if it did have any impact on that area?
I would think, so, too…
 
  • #43,803
Noooo. I would say some intimate reference to their "shared" conversations . You said this on the Today show. I know you directed it at me. Religious code. Fondness for a certain photo he took from the home for example and she knows is missing. Delusional, stuff fabricated in his mind that he was sure she was connecting to him on a different plane. Probably not obscene. Probably not even overly romantic but ya know..our lives were destined to be intermingled. Some sappy line or 2. Maybe.. JMO

I can see your line of thinking, but I feel that if it was an delusional stalker that it would've been evident in the family response videos. She never said "I want.." or "I understand..." for example. She always framed it as "we", as in the 3 of them.

JMO.
 
  • #43,804
Suspicious that somehow there will be an "out," a way for the million dollars to not be paid. Most likely, if there were two persons involved, one would have to implicate himself, and would SG want to give money to someone who is responsible for her mother's disappearance and probable death?
Maybe things have changed on the $1 million but when it was first announced NBC for several mornings on the Today show explained exactly how the reward could be paid without knowing the identity of the person. My thought was they were doing that because it seemed like it would be impossible to stay anonymous and collect the reward and they wanted people to know it wasn't impossible and there are a variety of ways to do it.
 
  • #43,805
I can see your line of thinking, but I feel that if it was an delusional stalker that it would've been evident in the family response videos. She never said "I want.." or "I understand..." for example. She always framed it as "we", as in the 3 of them.

JMO.
Actually she said: we understand and we will pay. So yes. She was distancing herself. She would not give him the intimacy of I. Jmo
 
  • #43,806
Not sure I agree that he would have no knowledge. But I'm not thinking this at the moment.Jmo
My opinion is TC isn’t involved directly. Just an example, he hired someone to do some work at his house and Nancy’s and that worker could be the perp. TC didn’t hire him for the crime, but to do some work only. It’s good that everyone can have different perspectives.
 
  • #43,807
I’m glad you’re okay, but I’m sure you’re still spooked by it.
Google 'security options' for patio doors. There was a link posted on here earlier that was very helpful. Will post if I locate...
 
  • #43,808
There's been some discussion about the porch guy being a male or a female. When I look at the pics/video, I see a masculine body although thought the eyes and possible eyeliner looked feminine, with facial hair drawn on. I suppose they could be a trans person. There was a recent case in Canada where an 18-year-old trans woman (former male) shot and killed 9 people. It's a different world now.
MOO
Well, (imo) there are a couple of possible hints at femininity. And appearing as the opposite gender would be a good additional disguise. Also, of course, male and female body shapes aren't always extremely different from each other anyway, especially with deliberate modifications.

I'd think trans is less likely simply because transpeople are a small percentage of the population.

Anyway, going with the "when you see hoofprints, think horse, not zebra" theory, my guess is LG is most likely male but I wouldn't completely rule out female or transwoman.

MOO
 
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Actually she said: we understand and we will pay. So yes. She was distancing herself. She would not give him the intimacy of I. Jmo

If it was known or suspected that a delusional stalker had her Mom she would've addressed him directly.

JMO.
 
  • #43,810
Possibly, but someone would need to notify the utility company about the damaged box. Unless a utility worker is onsite and sees it, they may not be aware of it.
This line of inquiry and canvassing with power related questions is odd. It's even evolved to now be a total power outage? Weird.
 
  • #43,811
This line of inquiry and canvassing with power related questions is odd. It's even evolved to now be a total power outage? Weird.
I agree. Imo it's possible but also possible the FBI really only wants to zero in on one particular neighbor but is speaking with all of them to keep from tipping that person off. Or... something else.

Ugh. Endless "what-ifs."
 
  • #43,812
Well, there are a couple of possible hints at femininity. And appearing as the opposite gender would be a good additional disguise. Also, of course, male and female body shapes aren't always extremely different from each other, especially with deliberate modifications.

I'd think trans is less likely simply because transpeople are a small percent of the population.

Anyway, going with the "when you see hoofprints, think horse, not zebra" theory, my guess is LG is most likely male but I wouldn't completely rule out female or trans.

MOO
My post was deleted, saying not to drag gender identity into the thread. I guess it's not a welcome point, possibly for a variety of reasons. MOO
 
  • #43,813
Yes the SG videos are obviously carefully crafted and staged. With odd movie references, etc. This was done for a specific reason and it sounds more like a personal crime, not a money one.

If it was just a money crime, the talk would be about the cash?
Cassie I meant to ask you re: the movie references. I've seen this brought up several times in this gigantic thread! Which movies were referenced in which video by SG? I haven't been able to find anything.
 
  • #43,814
I agree
BBM He didnt want the money! The money was a distraction. A way to drag this out. He changed dates, even. By Thursday or this will happen. By next week or THIS will happen. Never really about the money. Ransom notes were a tool not a destination. JMO
I think the first ransom note that had the 2 deadlines and the 3 non public bits of info, Apple Watch, flood lights and what she was wearing was done to distract LE.
 
  • #43,815
I like your perp's unrealized potential (loves "The Bard", but actually teaches remedial English.) But..... he seems too nice. Lets juice him up a little: Same rigid mother, same teaching, same junior college, but....

The perp is intelligent, but grew up socially isolated. He then stacked arrogance and a poor work ethic on top of social isolation. The end result was a communication ability near zero.

Post college, "P" entered the teaching world with an expectation that he would teach only gifted students at the best schools. "P", however, tended to alienate principals and fellow teachers as well as rack up complaints from parents as he destroyed all but the best essays with red ink and a demeaning 'tude.

"P" burned his way from district to district. Four year universities are loaded down with Literature grad students willing to work for starvation wages on the slim chance they get admitted to the very few programs leading to a job in academia rather than the public high.

"P" then wound up teaching at a series of local JCs. There is a huge need in the local area for remedial and basic English. Advanced literature classes to students who care? Those positions are filled and "P's" tude is limiting advancement.

So..... "P" is now 40 and going no where. Too old for grad school and even if he went, the market is waay over saturated with World lit, English lit and even esoteric Women's lit masters degrees.

Getting desperate, "P" hatches a plan for one, big, easy, pay day. Going "Breaking Bad" is complicated and the meth world is dangerous. What about ransom kidnapping an easy target? Not just any target, but somebody with deep pocketed relatives?
Oh yes! All of that. He has all this unrealized potential but is stuck. He never went to the prom. He wrote love letters to his 6th grade fantasy puppy love full of phrases like star crossed lovers, yet he never sent them. He lived vicariously. Kind of like the girl who’s always the bridesmaid and never the bride. He has fantasized about various women but never acted on it. He’s no longer able to suppress his longing and desire. Snatch Ng. Get SG attention and pay me for all I’ve missed out in my life. Although I still think the money is secondary and just part of his dramatic performance. Jmo. Ps. Wanna get together and self publish some trashy romance novels, Cryptic???
 
  • #43,816
every time i consider a ransom kidnapping, I run into the fact that those are essentially nonexistent in the US in 2026, for people with no connection to organized crime. it's just too hard to get the money without leaving a trail.

but one thought I keep having at this point in the reasoning is maybe we have an enterprising criminal who thought the "breakthrough" of cryptocurrency or some other recent development created a way to get the money yet cover your tracks, so ransom kidnappings could be profitable again. not hard to picture some venn diagram overlap between dumb criminals and crypto bros.

Just my speculation though. one possibility among many. whatever happened here is going to be some kind of black swan. just not clear what kind.

edit: BTW, this theory's agnostic on whether any of the ransom demands were real. it's possible this started as a planned ransom kidnapping and they either screwed it up by accidentally killing her, or chickened out on the demand and then probably executed her.
This is why I believe it isn’t someone who bases things on reality. I know the history of the Lindbergh baby and I know the stories of wealthy people being kidnapped in Mexico City and sailors kidnapped by Somali pirates. I believe it’s someone more versed in a virtual world than a real one. Games, movies, TV, even books. Someone younger with grandiose thoughts. Real criminals know better than to kidnap in US. They don’t want to deal with hostage or aftermath. And a real kidnapper gets the job done and gets the money.
 
  • #43,817
This is why I believe it isn’t someone who bases things on reality. I know the history of the Lindbergh baby and I know the stories of wealthy people being kidnapped in Mexico City and sailors kidnapped by Somali pirates. I believe it’s someone more versed in a virtual world than a real one. Games, movies, TV, even books. Someone younger with grandiose thoughts. Real criminals know better than to kidnap in US. They don’t want to deal with hostage or aftermath. And a real kidnapper gets the job done and gets the money.
Very interesting theory re: more versed in the virtual world. I wonder when the last kidnapping took place in the USA where the kidnapper received the ransom, think I'll look that up.
 
  • #43,818
If it was known or suspected that a delusional stalker had her Mom she would've addressed him directly.

JMO.
Still think this is all cat and mouse, under the direction of the FBI. She's not acknowledging her connection to him. Mom belongs to all of us. I will not separate myself for your convenience or gratification. And she's not tipping off the motive to the world . JMO
 
  • #43,819
This line of inquiry and canvassing with power related questions is odd. It's even evolved to now be a total power outage? Weird.
Strange indeed. The picture of the utility box is either telecom or cable, could possibly be abandoned (no longer in use).
 
  • #43,820
Always found it weird how their are no feet or tire marks anywhere.
 
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