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Anyone feel the rcmp and sars will do another search in May to coincide with the 1 year anniversary of the children's disappearance
I hope so. I wish I believed they will find anything though....
 
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Anyone feel the rcmp and sars will do another search in May to coincide with the 1 year anniversary of the children's disappearance
I'm on the fence about that. I feel as if the RCMP know what took place, but can't prove it. Or that is what I want to believe.

I think you're right Su5ie in that LE will take another run at it soon as the snow melts.

Heartbreaking
 
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Anyone feel the rcmp and sars will do another search in May to coincide with the 1 year anniversary of the children's disappearance
Likely they won't do another search unless they come across some evidence that warrants it. Which would be good, so hopefully that happens.

jmo
 
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Anyone feel the rcmp and sars will do another search in May to coincide with the 1 year anniversary of the children's disappearance
I think it's likely that either they or the extended family will organise something once the snow melts (anyone know when that usually happens in NS?)
 
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I think it's likely that either they or the extended family will organise something once the snow melts (anyone know when that usually happens in NS?)
Is it end of April ? Will DMs family allow though or will a warrant have to be served ,as I'm under the impression from the bring them home charity search that a lot of the land belongs to members of his family ??

What is the general protocol for searching private land or private land that may transverse with public lands by the rcmp official search and rescue parties
 
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Is it end of April ? Will DMs family allow though or will a warrant have to be served ,as I'm under the impression from the bring them home charity search that a lot of the land belongs to members of his family ??

What is the general protocol for searching private land or private land that may transverse with public lands by the rcmp official search and rescue parties
Great questions, to which I unfortunately have no answers
 
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Anyone feel the rcmp and sars will do another search in May to coincide with the 1 year anniversary of the children's disappearance

I hope so. There is a very narrow window of opportunity between the snow melt, and the eruption of greenery on the forest floor. It will be ever so much more difficult to find remains than it was a year ago, so I have very little hope that another search will be successful. But, imo, it is worth a try.
 
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Is it end of April ? Will DMs family allow though or will a warrant have to be served ,as I'm under the impression from the bring them home charity search that a lot of the land belongs to members of his family ??

What is the general protocol for searching private land or private land that may transverse with public lands by the rcmp official search and rescue parties

I haven't seen that a large piece of the land belongs to DM's family. In order to do a search, police would go to the land owners and get written permission.
 
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I'm on the fence about that. I feel as if the RCMP know what took place, but can't prove it. Or that is what I want to believe.

I think you're right Su5ie in that LE will take another run at it soon as the snow melts.

Heartbreaking
I'm also in this boat, even if the kids had wandered off or something and survived the initial months before winter, winter would've been too much for them. Any search would be for their remains.
 
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I'm also in this boat, even if the kids had wandered off or something and survived the initial months before winter, winter would've been too much for them. Any search would be for their remains.

They were reported missing at the beginning of May, which is early Spring in Canada. It is still quite cool, especially overnight. If I recall correctly, there was cold rain the following day. I believe that the kids would get very cold quite quickly. This might have lead them to tuck in for shelter under the roots of one of the many uprooted fallen trees. It would be extremely difficult to find them if they decided to hide.
 
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Anyone feel the rcmp and sars will do another search in May to coincide with the 1 year anniversary of the children's disappearance

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We’re coming up to some warmer weather.

In a missing jogger case in Toronto (Whitby area) during winter, the police said the SAR team might return in March once there was two or more weeks of ‘warm’ weather (low teens). That’s what happened and the victim’s remains were found.

In this case they wanted to revisit the mines. Maybe that’s when they’ll do it. (?)
IMO, my guess is April when the ground has a chance to absorb the moisture. We had a lot of snow.
 
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I haven't seen that a large piece of the land belongs to DM's family. In order to do a search, police would go to the land owners and get written permission.
 

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That is great news 😀
 
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Ground searching—

Any SAR persons here?Can we discuss searching? I’ve only done untrained volunteer searches in the Toronto area. I’m considering this one *if* I’m able to.

Tips would be welcome. A tracker who was once at WS always said ‘open mind, wide net’ and recommended walking sticks.

Lost child behaviour—

I know children of their ages tend to go downhill, they gravitate towards water, may not respond when called, go until something stops them (lost boot, for example), and they tend to get into very small spaces.

Statistically, if they placed that part of the blanket where it was found, they should be near it.

We in Nova Scotia have very diverse terrain. Add to this that there are old mines in the area, and it’s a quagmire.

So, suggestions on searching?

One source:

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ETA: Lilly and Jack had relatives and friends close by. (The bus driver said his children were friends with them.) Maybe they set out to visit them?

I thought the train tracks might be a draw for them as well. Or things to put in the pool their step-grandmother was planning.
 
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Ground searching—

Any SAR persons here?Can we discuss searching? I’ve only done untrained volunteer searches in the Toronto area. I’m considering this one *if* I’m able to.

Tips would be welcome. A tracker who was once at WS always said ‘open mind, wide net’ and recommended walking sticks.

Lost child behaviour—

I know children of their ages tend to go downhill, they gravitate towards water, may not respond when called, go until something stops them (lost boot, for example), and they tend to get into very small spaces.

Statistically, if they placed that part of the blanket where it was found, they should be near it.

We in Nova Scotia have very diverse terrain. Add to this that there are old mines in the area, and it’s a quagmire.

So, suggestions on searching?

One source:

Screenshots from the site:
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ETA: Lilly and Jack had relatives and friends close by. (The bus driver said his children were friends with them.) Maybe they set out to visit them?

I thought the train tracks might be a draw for them as well. Or things to put in the pool their step-grandmother was planning.

@Vern_S
 
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So, suggestions on searching?
What I am worried about is that if the children did wander, run away, hide or play in the forest then 1) the reason of their non-return could be them getting split up such as one getting hurt or separated from the other for any reason and 2) following that or without that, kids are likely to look for shelter at some point - making them super easy to miss.

Right now it seems a search in the woods has to put extra emphasis on 1) possible accident sites, 2) possible shelter sites and 3) possible body disposal signs.

Very very often the kids not found in initial searches are just ever so slightly outside of the search area. Just to illustrate, Noah (2), Tserin (3) and Torjus (7) were found just under 2 miles away, Ryker (3) and John (4) were found 2+ miles away, Stephen (5) was found 6 miles away, Bodin (2) was found 7 miles away. AFAIK, the search area for L&J was unequal in different directions and did not cover a 2-mile radius, let alone 3 (not a complaint, that's a huge area to grid search).

And sometimes children can be very close, but silent and then missed for any kind of absurd reason, consider this story (the kid survived!).

As for looking for cover, have a cute example of 3-year-old Cameron, but that's really a pretty universal behaviour, afaik.
 
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It was a "piece of blanket", "found in a tree", which could indeed be carried there by a bird, and a very logical explanation since it was nesting time. The fact that the other pieces of the blanket were in the garbage makes a bird even more likely. Crows pecking through garbage bags is a common problem.

If it was tied to a branch, then obviously a human put it there, but that doesn't seem to be the case. We haven't heard any reports of tire tracks or human footprints leading to the spot.


The problem with that explanation is that the garbage bag containing the blanket was in a bin with a lid. It would take dexterity and effort to open it. Maybe not impossible for an animal, but certainly impossible for a bird.
 
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2nd round of polygraphs conducted in disappearance of N.S. children​

Jack and Lilly Sullivan were reported missing on May 2, 2025​

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Aly Thomson · CBC News · Posted: Mar 11, 2026 5:00 AM EDT | Last Updated: 3 hours ago

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Nova Scotia RCMP have conducted a second round of polygraph examinations in the disappearance of Jack and Lilly Sullivan, with two of those tests focused on one of the only pieces of physical evidence in the case: a light pink blanket found hanging in a tree.

Lilly, 6, and Jack, then 4, were reported missing on the morning of May 2, 2025, from Lansdowne, N.S., a sparsely populated area about 140 kilometres northeast of Halifax.

Their disappearance sparked a massive grid search of the thick woods surrounding their home, where they lived with their mother, Malehya Brooks-Murray; stepfather, Daniel Martell; and their younger sister.

A piece of Lilly’s blanket, found on the first day of the search tangled in a tree's twigs, has been the subject of much speculation, fuelled by a lack of answers in the case.

WATCH | Family member who found pink blanket was asked about it during polygraph:

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Pink blanket focus of N.S. missing children polygraphs


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Nova Scotia RCMP have conducted a second round of polygraph examinations in the disappearance
 
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The problem with that explanation is that the garbage bag containing the blanket was in a bin with a lid. It would take dexterity and effort to open it. Maybe not impossible for an animal, but certainly impossible for a bird.

According to the article posted today, "Two days later, another piece of the same blanket was seized from inside a trash bag at the end of the driveway at the children’s home, said the documents, which lay out an officer’s summary of the investigation to that point."

We don't have an accounting of where the blanket was from the moment it left the house until it was picked up in a trash bag at the end of the lane. I have not seen a report that it was immediately, or ever, put into a bin with a lid. It is likely that it was put into a bag which was accessible to wildlife.
 

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