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  1. Berrybell

    The Innocence Project and Darlie Routier

    Is that normal for it to take this long to release a statement?
  2. Berrybell

    The Innocence Project and Darlie Routier

    I am curious too.
  3. Berrybell

    OK OK - Donna Haraway, 27, Ada, 28 April 1984

    https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/judge-orders-release-from-prison-or-new-trial-for-innocent-man-defendant-karl-fontenot/ This is a link that mentions the different blouses described by Ward and what was found with her remains.
  4. Berrybell

    OK OK - Donna Haraway, 27, Ada, 28 April 1984

    It is my understanding the shirt found with her remains did not match the description given in the confession.
  5. Berrybell

    OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered - 4 Wagner Family Members Arrested #89

    I agree!! Granny Wag's money showed up!!!
  6. Berrybell

    OK - Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #7 *Arrests* *Tiffany Adams guilty*

    I wonder if she knew before he planned to participate in the murder of two innocent women. If not, when did she learn he was a killer of helpless women? Grice is a monster same as the others.
  7. Berrybell

    OK - Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #7 *Arrests* *Tiffany Adams guilty*

    I honestly had not thought of TA as a cult leader before; however, I agree. She used their extremist church and twisted scriptures, according to Grice. I would be interested to know how many members the God's Misfits church had in regular attendance, and their thoughts on what has happened.
  8. Berrybell

    OK - Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #7 *Arrests* *Tiffany Adams guilty*

    That is a good question. I am curious what the rope was used for, I hope it was post-mortem.
  9. Berrybell

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #6 *Arrests*

    Considering the rope around Veronica's waist and her shirt and bra pulled up, I am wondering if her precious body was dragged.
  10. Berrybell

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #6 *Arrests*

    Oklahoma is a death penalty state, has the DA said if they are seeking the death penalty?
  11. Berrybell

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #6 *Arrests*

    I do not remember seeing a MSM who was or wasn'' present during the murders. I think I assume TA was present and either participated or watched.
  12. Berrybell

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #6 *Arrests*

    In my honest opinion, I don't think Grice was a government informant, but it is a strong possibility he is now and has cut a deal. There may or may not be others involved in the murder, however, may be in additional criminal or antigovernmental antics.
  13. Berrybell

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #6 *Arrests*

    https://www.news9.com/story/66c5f6c9ee3c7769cfa9cf17/5-suspects-charged-in-oklahoma-panhandle-double-murder-expected-in-court
  14. Berrybell

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #6 *Arrests*

    I think you may be right, Grice was worried about DNA evidence after being buried if I recall correctly. I think he did injure himself attacking the victims and was worried he bled on them or other items buried.
  15. Berrybell

    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #6 *Arrests*

    That is something to think about wanting her maiden name to be a brand, and carried on for future generations. I too wonder how the children of the 4 murders are doing and what their thoughts are.

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