CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #7

[Dreamcherry]

I agree it could go both ways, what DM said about being confident they wouldn't be found there on his family's (mother's?) 2 acre property.

Also depending on the context of the interviewer's (?) question he was responding to, which if I'm keeping up here, was redacted?

On the face of it at the time he said that, it could be as simple as it seemed on the date he said it, that perhaps he had done his ultimate best as a bereft stepdad having searched high and low in every spot he knew of they could have been hiding in or fallen into or where there was dangerous terrain on those 2 acres.

My property is of similar size and rural in nature.

About half of it I know like the back of my hand, and any signs of new or unusual disturbance would be obvious to me, and the other half I could search without much effort in a few hours time.

So I can relate to him saying that with confidence at the outset and having no doubt they weren't thereabouts after he felt he had thoroughly searched it all.

At the same time, he only had his own eyes to look with, and his own knowledge of the property, for IIRC the last 2 years (?) living there with his newer partner & kids.

As I did when I was super surprised to discover a new neighbor had been encroaching on the "way back" portion of my property while I was busy with other things and couldn't walk it all on a regular basis.

I didn't ever hear anything, see anything, or have any clue the new neighbor had cut trees, put up fencing and gates in the way back part of my property until months later.

When I happened upon it one sunny day when I had time and went beyond the acre around my house that I frequent to do some brush clearing and check on water flow in the swales that usually flowed away off the property and had become stagnant, because of changes the neighbor had made well out of sight that blocked the water flow in the swales to make a wallow pond for their ducks "because we weren't using it and they didn't think I would mind".

So just sayin, 2 acres of natural habitat surrounding my domicile was enough of an expanse for me not to know what was going on throughout it all for awhile.

And if DM's place & his mother & brother's were all on the 2 acres or they each had their own acreage as part of a larger parcel, with neighbors, we don't know I don't think.

But LE does, and are coming back to the area to search again with cadaver dogs, and I both hope and don't hope, contradictorally, they'll find something that they & DM might have missed in their initial searches for Lilly and Jack.

Still holding out hope they were spirited away by a good samaritan and are alive somewhere happier than ever, instead of being found deceased near home after wandering away.

MOO

OMG, people are wild! I would be so mad, lol. It does make for an excellent point, though!

 

[su5ie]

Wow, thanks for sharing this, su5ie!!

I wasn't aware DM had written this, about having info that would point fingers.

And wonder if "it's complicated" as to why he hasn't.

JMO, the plot keeps on thickening...

Imo DM from the start has insinuated a lot of things and I don't know whether to believe his hands are tied re the investigation process or whether he likes to sound like he is in the know or has a superiority complex in so far as I know something you don't know . What we do know from his intial interviews is he likes to portray himself as some kind of super human capable of out running helicopters and running through water waist deep I also feel his sole motivation is to convey his innocence and insinuate blame away from himself. He is definitely looking out for numero uno but his why is another story .

I don't know whether he is out of his depth and likes to think he is smarter than the average Joe or he is innocent and wants to come across as he has his together .

I do think he is trying which is more than I can say for others

 

[su5ie]

OMG, people are wild! I would be so mad, lol. It does make for an excellent point, though!

I do think he feels he has looked in every nook and crany on the property, I've always imagined he has continually searched over the past 4 months on the lands him and his family occupy.

 

[Dreamcherry]

I dislike these YT wannabe journalists as well.
But as the article indicates, it seems some family members participate in these discussions, perhaps to feel like they are doing “something” and being heard. I see it as misguided, whether it’s DM or BG or anyone, but I sort of understand the desire to speak to anyone who gives them a platform. Sad.
IMHO

Daniel and the grandmothers are all over one of the FB groups, too. For someone who's been following true crime since the 80s, it's so weird to be able to interact with the players in a case so easily!

 

[su5ie]

Daniel and the grandmothers are all over one of the FB groups, too. For someone who's been following true crime since the 80s, it's so weird to be able to interact with the players in a case so easily!

Access is very easy but getting straight answers is harder

 

[Dreamcherry]

Access is very easy but getting straight answers is harder

100%!

 

[marloweclover]

This is pure speculation, moo, and not to imply that mom actually knows anything. More of a "what if" that has been on my mind for a long time in this case.

I am not a mother.

There was a lot of talk about how rapidly mom left the property. If one knew, as a mother, that something terrible happened (not necessarily with your involvement), and that your children's bodies were at a location, would you want to stay close because at least they were there, or get away because of the horror of it? I honestly do not know how I would feel, not having any children myself.

 

[Ontario Mom]

This is pure speculation, moo, and not to imply that mom actually knows anything. More of a "what if" that has been on my mind for a long time in this case.

I am not a mother.

There was a lot of talk about how rapidly mom left the property. If one knew, as a mother, that something terrible happened (not necessarily with your involvement), and that your children's bodies were at a location, would you want to stay close because at least they were there, or get away because of the horror of it? I honestly do not know how I would feel, not having any children myself.

That's a really good question. I think most moms would stay, but I also think some moms might not be able to. Everyone reacts to trauma a little differently. Very similar to the fight/flight/freeze reactions we all have to certain things.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Not living there with her child does not equal not searching the woods for her children while her child was in proper care. It does not equal not spreading info about them.

In other words - she could be both compliant with CPS and looking for her kids.

She isn't granting media interviews so the public has no idea what this woman has or hasn't done in the last 5 months, in an effort to find her kids.

 

[TMich6811]

She isn't granting media interviews so the public has no idea what this woman has or hasn't done in the last 5 months, in an effort to find her kids.

I was responding to the posters implication that she would lose her kids by doing those things.

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Actually I didn’t say anything about her actions specifically

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[Bekind89]

This is pure speculation, moo, and not to imply that mom actually knows anything. More of a "what if" that has been on my mind for a long time in this case.

I am not a mother.

There was a lot of talk about how rapidly mom left the property. If one knew, as a mother, that something terrible happened (not necessarily with your involvement), and that your children's bodies were at a location, would you want to stay close because at least they were there, or get away because of the horror of it? I honestly do not know how I would feel, not having any children myself.

I would have to be forcibly removed. As a mother myself, I have never understood how a mother could leave and leave so quickly.
Just my own opinion, not implying anything.

 

[teeby]

I don't know what I would do if I knew where my children's bodies were but couldn't reveal it because it would implicate me. If it implicated my husband, I'm going to be honest, I'd flip on him immediately so I could lay them to rest, and if he ended up in jail, good riddance.

If my children were genuinely lost and I didn't know where they were, I think you'd have to physically knock me out and carry me to get me away from searching endlessly where they were lost or waiting at the place they'd be trying to get home to. I don't even think I could sleep without being drugged.

That being said, my brain starts to shut down if I think about this too long, so if it actually happened, I think having a full on mental breakdown and ending up in a hospital would also be very seriously on the table. We still don't know the details of where mom went or why, right? Or did I miss it?

 

[Megnut]

I would have to be forcibly removed. As a mother myself, I have never understood how a mother could leave and leave so quickly.
Just my own opinion, not implying anything.

Should this disappearance be solved, I think the mom's actions will not only make sense, they'll be respected.

MOO I don't think she abandoned her children or the searches. I think she quickly vacated a dangerous crime scene. Especially critical because there was a third child to protect.

I think LE provided the mom with information we don't have. She may have been misled by someone she trusted and severed ties the minute she realized it.

And that's why a mother would leave the last place the children were.

JMO

 

[Bekind89]

Should this disappearance be solved, I think the mom's actions will not only made sense, they'll be respected.

MOO I don't think she abandoned her children or the searches. I think she quickly vacated a dangerous crime scene. Especially critical because there was a third child to protect.

I think LE provided the mom with information we don't have. She may have been misled by someone she trusted and severed ties the minute she realized it.

And that's why a mother would leave the last place the children were.

JMO

Of course that makes perfect sense and is completely understandable.
Makes one wonder if the mother gave a completely different account of that morning to LE once she and her baby were safe.

 

[Bekind89]

Of course that makes perfect sense and is completely understandable.
Makes one wonder if the mother gave a completely different account of that morning to LE once she and her baby were safe.

Replying to my post to add that if the mother did tell LE a different account, then that would perfectly explain why she was told not to speak publicly about it, idk.

 

[Ontario Mom]

We still don't know the details of where mom went or why, right? Or did I miss it?

Right, we still don't know. I think we presume she's with family but she's never shared her reasons for leaving so we don't really know why.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

I wonder how much of a window that will give them before it starts snowing?

It really varies year by year in the northeastern part of the US and eastern Canada, IME.

One year in New England it didn't snow until January 11 & was sweatshirt weather by March, and another year it snowed on Halloween and didn't let up until well into April.

I'm pretty sure it's colder sooner & snowier in Nova Scotia than in New England, especially as that area is towards the northern end of the land mass.

Without looking up their weather & precipitation history, I would guess end of October and maybe into November and thereafter there may be snow accumulation, but heavy snow & thick accumulations won't typically happen until the end of the year.

JMO

 

[Twistinginthewind]

She isn't granting media interviews so the public has no idea what this woman has or hasn't done in the last 5 months, in an effort to find her kids.

Yes, I agree the public hss no idea what MBM is up to, but also that it's more typical in a situation like this, IMO, for the mother of 2 missing children to be more vocal, anyway.

Although she is probably just following LE's requests for the family to not talk to media, which I posted a link to upthread in the last week.

JMO, she " can't win for losin' "

 

[Lexiintoronto]

IMO, they’re likely searching or about to do so. Local weather is warm and clear for the next ten days. Hurricane Humberto (category 3, atm) is winding up to the North Atlantic, but is currently tracking east of us. If he goes towards us he’ll affect us likely on Wednesday or Thursday.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I think it's critical to understand that meth use (what DM admitted to) and meth production (cooking it) are 2 completely different things.

You don't have to cook meth to use it. You can just buy it as a powder (similar to cocaine) and use it without ever cooking it and exposing household members to the toxic chemicals used to make it.