Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #112

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I did Moderna, flu, and second shingles all together.
Took me down.
I did not have a problem with Shingles #1.
Save shingles #2 for another day.
I am 60 and very tough.
if Shingles #1 did not bother you, #2 would probably be OK.
Shingles shot made me deathly nauseated for 72hrs, but I think that was "just me."
Checked all the ingredients and thought maybe it was the adjuvant. I got anti-nausea meds
to get the second shot and was OK. Like night and day as they say.
 
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My husband and I got Covid and the flu vaccines together with outside any issues. We’ve been lucky.
 
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I had Covid and flue together without a problem.
 
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My husband and I got Covid and the flu vaccines together with outside any issues. We’ve been lucky.
I had Covid and flue together without a problem.
Yes, I’ve had covid and flu shots together. Covid always puts me in bed for over a day, but it wasn’t worse with the flu shot. So I was wondering about having all 4 together—RSV and Shingrix too. Based on other comments, I think I’ll stick with just covid and flu. I was trying not to have to make the effort to go back again (I’m disabled), as that was why I didn’t go back and get them last year.
 
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I got my covid jab last week. I was hoping to get Novavax but could not find it anywhere near me. I got it last year and had very mild side effects. I have mostly gotten Moderna before and always with strong side effects. This time I got my first Pfizer shot and it was stronger than Novavax but much milder than Moderna for me.

I am excited to finally be magnetized with the Pfizer chip!
I’ve always had Pfizer until last year I had Moderna. For me, Moderna wasn’t as bad as Pfizer. It’s funny how we all react differently.
 
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I am actually a clinical trial participant for the RSV and were it not for the Snoopy bandaid- I would not have known I got a vaccine. Shingrix will kick your butt a little, but not as much as shingles.
My doctor keeps pushing for me to take the shingles shot. But I’ve heard so many stories of people who had bad reactions, I’m hesitant to do it. Is it the second shot which is worse? Why is that?

Hubby did the Covid shot, I opted out.
 
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My doctor keeps pushing for me to take the shingles shot. But I’ve heard so many stories of people who had bad reactions, I’m hesitant to do it. Is it the second shot which is worse? Why is that?

Hubby did the Covid shot, I opted out.
I saw my mother-in-law suffer and almost lose her eye sight when she had shingles. It came on suddenly, and within 48 hours she was hospitalized as the infection started at the top of her scalp close to her forehead and continued to spread and the doctors said she could have lost her eyesight if she wasn't taken to emergency quickly. So my husband and I both know we need the shingles shots. We got the old shingles shot that was recommended, but now the new two-shot vaccine replaces the older one we got a few years ago. We keep putting it off but we know that we need to get it done.
 
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I saw my mother-in-law suffer and almost lose her eye sight when she had shingles. It came on suddenly, and within 48 hours she was hospitalized as the infection started at the top of her scalp close to her forehead and continued to spread and the doctors said she could have lost her eyesight if she wasn't taken to emergency quickly. So my husband and I both know we need the shingles shots. We got the old shingles shot that was recommended, but now the new two-shot vaccine replaces the older one we got a few years ago. We keep putting it off but we know that we need to get it done.
Thank you for sharing, my MIL also had shingles two years ago, but hers was mild in comparison to your story and others I’ve heard.

So the previous series you received is no longer preventative?
 
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My doctor keeps pushing for me to take the shingles shot. But I’ve heard so many stories of people who had bad reactions, I’m hesitant to do it. Is it the second shot which is worse? Why is that?

Hubby did the Covid shot, I opted out.
My uncle, who had had shingles, told me years ago to get the shot(s). He said “You do NOT want to get shingles!” I’m finally going to get around to it. I don’t know what “bad reactions” to the shot entail, but I do know that shingles near your eye can cost you your eyesight and that overall it’s very unpleasant.

JMO
 
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My doctor keeps pushing for me to take the shingles shot. But I’ve heard so many stories of people who had bad reactions, I’m hesitant to do it. Is it the second shot which is worse? Why is that?
A normal vaccine reaction isn't fun, but it usually isn't horrible, and you can plan it for when it works best for you to take a couple of days off to lay on the couch, or at least to not have anything super active planned.

The thing about Shingles, aside from hearing that it's usually a very painful disease to experience, is that it's not something you can avoid just by staying away from sick people, the way you can (to an extent) with covid, flu, or colds.

Shingles comes from a virus that is ALREADY in your body (assuming you had chickenpox before), just waiting to be activated. And what can activate it? Among other possible triggers, STRESS can activate it!

I can for the most part manage my exposures to contagious illness, by managing my public activities and using masks when I need to be around others. But I can't always manage when life will feel stressful, and when it does feel stressful, that's the LAST time I would want to add a painful illness to my calendar!

So I say yes, plan a quiet weekend, get your chores out of the way, and then on the Friday, go get that Shingles vax. By Monday, you'll be really glad you did. Then in a couple of months, do it again, and then you're done, protected for life.
 
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Thank you for sharing, my MIL also had shingles two years ago, but hers was mild in comparison to your story and others I’ve heard.

So the previous series you received is no longer preventative?
The previous recommended vaccine for Shingles is no longer offered in the U.S. It was not a series of shots, it was a single shot formula called Zostavax. At the time it was offered, it was considered effective for one's lifetime. But then Shingrix was developed which is more effective at preventing Shingles and it is a two-shot formula. It is recommended that people who had the Zostavax shot in the past now get the Shingrix shots because the Shingrix shots offer a significantly higher level of effectiveness according to clinical research. So people who received the first vaccine that was available for Shingles will be much better protected with the new vaccine which is the two-shot formula known as Shingrix.
 
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COVID activity has peaked and is now on a downward trend in many regions of the country, though emergency department (ED) visits and hospitalizations are still elevated, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said today in its latest update.

The current COVID wave began in June, marked by a slow rise that never approached levels seen last summer.

Wastewater SARS-CoV-2 detections are now at the moderate level and are highest in Northeast, followed by the West and the South.


 
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Is the mNexspike vaccine different from the former vaccine because it includes the LP8.1 dose? OR, is this another type of vaccine that is released in Canada?

"The latest vaccines include LP.8.1, an offshoot of the shape-shifting Omicron variant.

The updated vaccine "works against the current strains that are circulating," said Dr. Donald Vinh, an infectious diseases specialist at McGill University Health Centre.

"If you receive this updated LP8.1 dose, you actually will get [a] nice fourfold increase in the antibody levels compared to if you didn't get this vaccine."

 
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Got my flu and Covid vaccines yesterday. The pharmacist deadpanned "Did you want the microchip or the autism with this?'
 
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DBM
 
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Is the mNexspike vaccine different from the former vaccine because it includes the LP8.1 dose? OR, is this another type of vaccine that is released in Canada?

"The latest vaccines include LP.8.1, an offshoot of the shape-shifting Omicron variant.

The updated vaccine "works against the current strains that are circulating," said Dr. Donald Vinh, an infectious diseases specialist at McGill University Health Centre.

"If you receive this updated LP8.1 dose, you actually will get [a] nice fourfold increase in the antibody levels compared to if you didn't get this vaccine."

I think some are confusing the reason why it's different with the fact that it is different. I think my answer might add more confusion so stick with me here. I hope to clear this up for folks.

No, it's not different from the former vaccine (if by former, you mean last year's 2024/2025 Spikevax formula) because it includes the LP8.1 dose. IOW, that's not the reason it's different.

The reasons it's different than last year's 2024/2025 Spikevax formula, and also this years (2025/2026) Spikevax formula, is this:
  • mNEXSPIKE - Its streamlined vaccine design aims to target key parts of the spike protein rather than the entire spike protein, and at a lower dose. SOURCE
  • mNEXSPIKE showed a 9.3% higher relative vaccine efficacy compared to Spikevax. SOURCE
  • mNEXSPIKE is for people 65 and older or ages 12–64 at high risk for severe COVID-19. SOURCE
Now, WITH ALL THAT SAID... YES, it includes the LP8.1 dose.

Each 0.2 mL dose of MNEXSPIKE (2025-2026 Formula) contains 10 mcg nucleoside-modifiedmessenger RNA (mRNA) encoding the N-terminal domain (NTD) and receptor-binding domain(RBD) of the Spike glycoprotein of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant sublineage LP.8.1 SOURCE

BOTTOM LINE TAKEAWAYS - Both Moderna's mNEXSPIKE and Spikevax will always target what variants are most recently circulating. In that they are the SAME. What's different is that mNEXSPIKE targets key parts of the spike protein (vs the entire spike protein like Spikevax does), has a higher efficacy than Spikevax, and at a lower dose, and intended for those at a higher risk than the general population (65+ and those 12+ with health risks).

Hopefully that clears things up for folks. :)
 
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Got my flu and Covid vaccines yesterday. The pharmacist deadpanned "Did you want the microchip or the autism with this?'
That's actually not funny that they did that. MOO
 
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I found it hilarious. We were in a private room and discussing the wayward direction of the CDC. It was a joke.
My pharmacist and I did the same thing!
 
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I found it hilarious. We were in a private room and discussing the wayward direction of the CDC. It was a joke.
I know, I get it, and I would have found it funny too (in an unfunny way). But my point was while it is funny, it's really not funny IYKWIM. :( It's a very sad state of affairs we're dealing with due to Covid. :( That's the unfunny part.
 

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