FL - Sarah Boone, 42, charged with murdering boyfriend Jorge Torres, 42, by leaving him locked in suitcase, Winter Park, Feb 2020 #2

[cujenn81]

Anyone know the timeline of when these 9 visits took place?
Were they originally court ordered?
I'm confused how she got involved because Owens is new.

Her very first attorney hired her I believe.

 

[sasha17]

Is he going to testify?

He already did. He was one of the first witnesses for the state. They might call him back again during rebuttal witnesses to say more, I'm not sure.

 

[Seattle1]

The state's first witness was one of Jorge's brothers but I didn't find his testimony very enlightening. He talked briefly about how he didn't like Sarah and avoided interacting with her, but not much else. JMO

Yes, I recall that but I believed his testimony was intentionally limited to confirming the phone call JT placed hours before he expired where SB is yelling in the background that JT had tried to choke her. IMO, a typical SB manipulation of SB encouraging JT to phone his brother, for her benefit, and where the call was very short and they quickly hung up. This was another SB example the State brought up with the defense expert today. MOO

 

[Izzylizzy]

Is he going to testify?

I have no idea.
Is the state done except for closing?
BB was called by the state and it was a deflated balloon, on and off the stand pretty fast.

A few questions on her calling him 11 something PM when JT was being tortured to death and their calls the next day and him going there and seeing JT's feet, exiting the place and telling AB to call 911.

I can't see BB testifing for the defense...cross would be brutal for SB.

 

[Megnut]

was not aware of that. I do remember the body cam footage of her ex husband explaining that neither of them work, that HE had to procure the apartment for SB so she could be near to their son, etc and so forth

He seems like a genuinely decent guy. Probably felt sorry for her, thought he coukd help/fix her. Then couldn't live with (be married to) her but wanted his son to have a mother, a mistake a lot of well-meaning co-parenting parents do. People are complex. The do the right thing for the wrong reasons, the wrong thing for the right reasons, they do something or nothing with all the reasons or no reasons or some amount of reason in between. Even SB. She even said she didn't know why her ex-husband would have picked her. Probably why she picked JT, thought she was better than him, she'd be perfect to him (narcissism) (make all his decisions for him) and he'd never leave her. Reminds me a little of a child who squeezes his pet too tight, so it can't get away, with disastrous results. It was IMO always one pin away from an explosion. Because Sarah is.

Soft presentation but a very broken person.

Plus unaware. Completely immune to the harm she does.

JMO

 

[stripehaven2]

She does have write ups frequently - all her records are in the public realm. Her jail security officers are clear that she's manipulative and dishonest. She has also broken rules frequently.

I think all that hoo-haw about her doing laundry for the cell mates was probably a survival mechanism/sucking up

 

[stripehaven2]

Was it said in court today that SB got a settlement in the divorce, $1,000 a month alimony and a 100 was said about child-support?
I got that from somewhere today..lol

I remember thinking that's a nice chunk of money to be have coming in but Brian said to female officer she's always asking him for $$$.
Was BB not paying her?
Their poor,poor son.

In some video or other — or maybe on the stand? — she said Jorge spent it, or some of it.

 

[cujenn81]

IMO the state withdrew their hearsay objection because they felt like Owens was just trying to delay the defense resting until tomorrow morning and the no contact order is going to be revealed thru body cam footage anyway. But then after they withdrew and the judge asked Owens if he was ready to have the jury brought in so he could rest, he still argued that he needed to have a discussion with SB first and yada yada yada he felt they should release the jury until tomorrow and rest then. So, Owens succeeded in the delay anyway.

I also heard the state say they would be playing two hours of body cam footage tomorrow and I think these are the police calls that JT made about SB’s abusive behavior towards him.

 

[Izzylizzy]

If not for the BSS she would have no case. It’s awful that the judge approved that. That is the sole focus versus her torturing him with the intent to kill. Murder accomplished.

I don't see BSS going anywhere for her.
The defense is always looking for that one sympathetic juror but it didn't work for an acquittal for AB and her husband/victim was up and jumping when she killed him.

I don't believe the statics on BWS/BSS for defendants are good.
The torturous killing of JT and his "I can't breathe" brings George Floyd into focus .

 

[Seattle1]

We can only link MSM news sites and verified sites here. However, SB's jail records since early 2020 are a matter of public record and some youtubers have gone through them line by line. If a MSM news source or verified youtuber did it then we could link. The reports are daily and often mundane such as 'SB refused breakfast tray'.

SB lives on a dorm with many other women, all of whom are transient because their court cases will come up and they'll either be released or moved on to prison. So in that regard she is now a highly unusual jail dorm resident. She does claim to have some friends, however, she is also frequently high conflict, manipulative, dishonest, and makes clear rules breaks.

One of her most outstandingly notable rule breaks is being found to have used metal staples removed from paperwork to 'modify' her jail issue clothing - the top half - to make it accentuate her features apparently. She was found to have done this and reprimanded and warned but yet continued to do it, being caught a second time. She admitted she was taking staples from booklets and pamphlets in the jail. She's often very rude to prison security personnel.

Yes, these are all open records and/or obtained via FOIA requests and I guess I'm surprised that not one WS approved SM is following the SB case and/or ever obtained them. I did learn about the clothes stapling -- I think Court TV reported this.

I did opine earlier when the Court approved the Defense's request for hair/makeup and other trial accommodations but they appeared to be overruled by the Jail's rejection without any question by the Judge or the defense. Here, the parties all seemed to remain silent on this subject and I think there was probably good cause to do so and they did not want to make record of it. MOO

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A report from the jail alleges that Sarah Boone was found with staples along the seam of her pants when she appeared in court on Aug. 14....

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[Izzylizzy]

In some video or other — or maybe on the stand? — she said Jorge spent it, or some of it.

I think the forensic therapist said it.


Yes, when the prosecutor asked her about AB's work history.

 

[sasha17]

Yes, these are all open records and/or obtained via FOIA requests and I guess I'm surprised that not one WS approved SM is following the SB case and/or ever obtained them. I did learn about the clothes stapling -- I think Court TV reported this.

I did opine earlier when the Court approved the Defense's request for hair/makeup and other trial accommodations but they appeared to be overruled by the Jail's rejection without any question by the Judge or the defense. Here, the parties all seemed to remain silent on this subject and I think there was probably good cause to do so and they did not want to make record of it. MOO

The clothes stapling showed up on the court records website because it happened during the time period when Sarah was checking in/out a laptop each day when she was pro se. The daily log of her days, showing the laptop checking in/out times, was uploaded to the court records website so we got a peek into what else happened there each day. I think LYK had at least one video on these logs.

Separately, there seems to be some other YouTube folks who obtained the jail records for days from before she was checking out the laptop and for days after she retained Owens and so the laptop logs ended. I haven't seen any WS approved sources talking about these logs.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

If not for the BSS she would have no case. It’s awful that the judge approved that. That is the sole focus versus her torturing him with the intent to kill. Murder accomplished.

Yep and BSS that doesn't even exist formally in any of its names (Battered Woman / Spouse / Person).

It's just a working theory, a hypothesis, by some random people who are not Psychiatrists and they propose that it should sit under the category of PTSD in the DSM.

However, it is not in the DSM-V TR which is the holy grail of legal standard diagnosable mental health problems in a court of law.

If, god forbid, SB gets off on this defence which would be an outrage IMO because there is no proof of her trauma from JT and there is plenty of evidence she's a liar, it would set a precedent for people all over the USA to claim they had some form of prior trauma and then set about murdering the people who irritate / trigger them. Which people do already do but we don't condone it!

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

The clothes stapling showed up on the court records website because it happened during the time period when Sarah was checking in/out a laptop each day when she was pro se. The daily log of her days, showing the laptop checking in/out times, was uploaded to the court records website so we got a peek into what else happened there each day. I think LYK had at least one video on these logs. There seems to be some other YouTube folks who obtained the jail records for days from before she was checking out the laptop and for days after she retained Owens and so the laptop logs ended.

There's some people have got them all the way back to her first jail admission in early 2020. They're pretty much daily and cover years, not in relation to the laptop or Owens. However, that might have been the catalyst for people realising they can obtain them.

 

[sasha17]

There's some people have got them all the way back to her first jail admission in early 2020. They're pretty much daily and cover years, not in relation to the laptop or Owens. However, that might have been the catalyst for people realising they can obtain them.

You replied fast. I edited my post to clarify that there are jail logs from prior to and after the laptop logs, which folks seemed to have gotten via FOIA but I haven't seen available on any WS approved sources.

By "laptop logs", I mean those that were uploaded to the public court records website. We only got to see those for a few weeks before they ended, when Owens started.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Was it said in court today that SB got a settlement in the divorce, $1,000 a month alimony and a 100 was said about child-support?
I got that from somewhere today..lol

I remember thinking that's a nice chunk of money to be have coming in but Brian said to female officer she's always asking him for $$$.
Was BB not paying her?
Their poor,poor son.

Correct, it was stated she lives off the settlement from her divorce, $1,000 per month alimony and $100 per month child-maintenance all from her husband. I guess she could have been in receipt of some form of welfare payments?

Seems that BB was also paying for her mobile phone contract and other things. Plus she was taking money from JT when he had money. JMO but I think JT losing his job and having no money was pivotal to her increasing contempt for him.

 

[Izzylizzy]

IMO the state withdrew their hearsay objection because they felt like Owens was just trying to delay the defense resting until tomorrow morning and the no contact order is going to be revealed thru body cam footage anyway. But then after they withdrew and the judge asked Owens if he was ready to have the jury brought in so he could rest, he still argued that he needed to have a discussion with SB first and yada yada yada he felt they should release the jury until tomorrow and rest then. So, Owens succeeded in the delay anyway.

I also heard the state say they would be playing two hours of body cam footage tomorrow and I think these are the police calls that JT made about SB’s abusive behavior towards him.

BBM
They could be of LE speaking with JT when they arrived wherever it was that the calls were made from, including the 911 calls whoever made them
That's great news because hopefully it changes the dynamics in the court of AB being the poor, abused victim and not as I believe a willing co-partner in all the violence.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I think all that hoo-haw about her doing laundry for the cell mates was probably a survival mechanism/sucking up

She's no suck up she's a manipulative control freak, however, she might have been forced to do others laundry by intimidation I guess. Bullies often succumb to being bullied because it's a hierarchy they understand and respect.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Correct, it was stated she lives off the settlement from her divorce, $1,000 per month alimony and $100 per month child-maintenance all from her husband. I guess she could have been in receipt of some form of welfare payments?

Seems that BB was also paying for her mobile phone contract and other things. Plus she was taking money from JT when he had money. JMO but I think JT losing his job and having no money was pivotal to her increasing contempt for him.

IMO:
She most likely went through the settlement money and I don't get why the alimony ,it;s not like she gave up a career(lol) when she married BB or the child maintenance when their son was half a week with each parent, but that's me.

She was a lazy entitled abusive drunk who used and abused both men.
She was one lucky gal with a wimp for an ex husband.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Correct, it was stated she lives off the settlement from her divorce, $1,000 per month alimony and $100 per month child-maintenance all from her husband. I guess she could have been in receipt of some form of welfare payments?

Seems that BB was also paying for her mobile phone contract and other things. Plus she was taking money from JT when he had money. JMO but I think JT losing his job and having no money was pivotal to her increasing contempt for him.

During AB's police station interrogation she went off on having to call JT's probation officer and anger therapy about his death.
That got me thinking about violence and alcohol and doing time (which he did) and probation.
I would think that the big restriction would be that he couldn't consume alcohol and of course any drugs.
I'm real curious about that because if true SB drank with him and also purchased the wine.