GA - James Brock, 45 and Kristin Brock, 41, double homicide, Carroll County, 20 February 2025 *Arrest*

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  • #161
Hexe said:
From what I gleaned from that DM article the child cruelty arrest warrant happened four years ago, Kristin's relapse of prescription meds three years ago. That's fairly recent. And the fact they were regulars at the church does not meam much to me, sorry. I've seen many, many bad people for whom church and faith were just a facade, hiding very ugly things.
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Additionally, parents like to think that if they've "turned things around" everything is now good to go. But in truth those early formative years can leave lasting scars and even effect brain development. And yes, these effects show up in the teen years.
 
  • #162
Leilei said:
Plus, if Doniel couldn't/wouldn't bring her to live with him, where was the now vocal grandfather, and why couldn't he or someone else step up? She was eleven years old when she wrote that letter to the court, so her father knew that she could submit another letter if needed within the past six years.
There is a whole lot going on behind the scenes, locally. I'm in the next county over, with mutual friends of their family, and most folks here are very unhappy about the victim blaming.
We'll see what happens and what is released leading up to trial, if there is one.
IMO.
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Does Doniel live in Carroll County, too? I'm just wondering approximately how far away he lived from the Brocks and his daughter over the last few years.
 
  • #163
Bounceycat said:
Does Doniel live in Carroll County, too? I'm just wondering approximately how far away he lived from the Brocks and his daughter over the last few years.
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Last I heard he lived down near Senoia. About an hour away.
IMO.
 
  • #164
Leilei said:
Last I heard he lived down near Senoia. About an hour away.
IMO.
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Ah ok. Not terribly far. I used to live in Coweta County so I'm familiar with the area.
 
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Just catching up, read through everyone’s posts regarding the DM article.

I feel conflicted, in one respect I feel compassion for Sarah. Her childhood was not great and it sounds like she was placed in the middle of a lot of parental conflicts. Clearly there is trauma from this. I worry that there are undisclosed things that happened to her, which now won’t be believed, because it will be perceived as trying to escape a harsh sentence.

However whatever compassion I feel has to be balanced with justice. Murdering your parents, whatever thier past, can’t be tolerated.

The whole thing makes me very sad, for everyone involved.
 
  • #167
Bounceycat said:
So according to that article, the last custody change was in late 2020 and father was given custody during the week and mother was given visits on the weekend. So why wasn't Sarah living with her father as ordered?
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Huh?

In March 2020, it was ordered that Doniel and Kristin would have 50/50 custody of the kids, with the mom agreeing to 'ensure that the oldest child, Sarah Patrick, is placed in counselling immediately'.
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  • #168
Bounceycat said:
Sarah's stepfather. Not father.
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Still, seeing your own mother trying to inflict grievous bodily harm on someone else is pretty much traumatising, and it seems that's just one of multiple traumatising events Sarah experienced in that house.
 
  • #169
Hexe said:
Huh?
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A little further down:

"In October 2020, it was agreed that Sarah Grace would live with her father during the week and her mother could visit her on set weekends."
 
  • #170
SMK777 said:
Additionally, parents like to think that if they've "turned things around" everything is now good to go. But in truth those early formative years can leave lasting scars and even effect brain development. And yes, these effects show up in the teen years.
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Yes. I genuinely don’t believe it’s victim blaming to acknowledge that growing up in this kind of household with these issues can lead to long term challenges for the children mentally and physically and emotionally and educationally and socially. It’s all well and good to say she was almost an adult who could go wherever but that’s not engaging with the reality of the trauma she underwent and how trauma changed brains. We prioritize highly children remaining with their biological parents and having relationships with all biological parents, which is fine - but we don’t spend resources on ensuring these children are prepared mentally themselves to be in these homes even after their parents have addressed their issues. Obviously most kids in these situations won’t kill people - but they often develop addictions, engage in risky behavior and suffer from long term serious mental health issues. Really the only thing positive we can take from a tragedy like this is using it to learn about and promote the needs of children in these situations so that we can try to avoid it in the future.
 
  • #171
bluestsocks said:
Yes. I genuinely don’t believe it’s victim blaming to acknowledge that growing up in this kind of household with these issues can lead to long term challenges for the children mentally and physically and emotionally and educationally and socially. It’s all well and good to say she was almost an adult who could go wherever but that’s not engaging with the reality of the trauma she underwent and how trauma changed brains. We prioritize highly children remaining with their biological parents and having relationships with all biological parents, which is fine - but we don’t spend resources on ensuring these children are prepared mentally themselves to be in these homes even after their parents have addressed their issues. Obviously most kids in these situations won’t kill people - but they often develop addictions, engage in risky behavior and suffer from long term serious mental health issues. Really the only thing positive we can take from a tragedy like this is using it to learn about and promote the needs of children in these situations so that we can try to avoid it in the future.
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I agree with everything you said. Also, she may have been close to turning 18 and being able to leave this horrible, toxic situation but her younger sister wasn't. Maybe she didn't want to leave her 6 year old sister behind to go through all of it by herself.
 
  • #172
I always seek the “why”. It’s important to understand that in my opinion.

Bluestsocks raised a good point which I don’t think is addressed well in our systems. Reunification at all costs. We sadly see the outcomes of this frequently in the Crimes Against Children forum.
 
  • #173
bluestsocks said:
Yes. I genuinely don’t believe it’s victim blaming to acknowledge that growing up in this kind of household with these issues can lead to long term challenges for the children mentally and physically and emotionally and educationally and socially. It’s all well and good to say she was almost an adult who could go wherever but that’s not engaging with the reality of the trauma she underwent and how trauma changed brains. We prioritize highly children remaining with their biological parents and having relationships with all biological parents, which is fine - but we don’t spend resources on ensuring these children are prepared mentally themselves to be in these homes even after their parents have addressed their issues. Obviously most kids in these situations won’t kill people - but they often develop addictions, engage in risky behavior and suffer from long term serious mental health issues. Really the only thing positive we can take from a tragedy like this is using it to learn about and promote the needs of children in these situations so that we can try to avoid it in the future.
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Well said.
 
  • #174
Court docket now shows a hearing on August 11th.
Possibly a bond hearing?
Wondering if it will be televised.
IMO.
 
  • #175
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Pretty in depth interview with Doniel Patrick, worth a listen.
 
  • #176
SMK777 said:
Additionally, parents like to think that if they've "turned things around" everything is now good to go. But in truth those early formative years can leave lasting scars and even effect brain development. And yes, these effects show up in the teen years.
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Exactly, and it takes years for a child to get big enough to do something about their cruel parents. Who knows, maybe she thought she was protecting the 5 year old. I'm new to this case, so obviously pure speculation. Sad from beginning to end for all concerned.
 
  • #177
This is an interesting one…. Drug debt!!!???
 
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  • #179
Tomorrow is SG's bond hearing, and I'm hearing that there will be cameras in the court room. I believe it's at 9am EST. Fox 5, 11Alive, and WSB are local stations that should be carrying it.
I had planned to attend, but ended up getting cellulitis in my eye/eyelid over the weekend, so no driving for me - plus it's ugly looking and I don't want to scare people.
Also, Kim's (Jamey's sister) nephew passed away unexpectedly last week, so the family is needing extra prayers right now :( This poor family.
IMO.
 
  • #180
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