Germany Germany - Rebecca Reusch, 15, Berlin, 18 Feb 2019 *Arrest*

[Elainera]

Florian is being released!

Berlin - Almost three weeks later, the warrant for his arrest is lifted! This was announced by the Berlin prosecutor on Friday.

Reason is that the investigating judge at the district court Tiergarten "due to the current state of investigation doubts about the urgent suspicion" against the 27-year-old, said the Berlin Attorney General on Friday. Previously, the lawyer of the 27-year-old had filed an Appeal.

Fall Rebecca (15): Haftbefehl gegen Rebeccas Schwager aufgehoben

Thank you for posting this Jareau! Just when I thought nothing is happening anyway so I take some time off and do other things, this happens!

Wow so the new judge didn't see the "urgent suspicion" LE cited weeks ago. Huge bummer for them. They were already criticised, now it'll get worse. Seems they did not have clear evidence tying him to Rebecca's disappearance although they still maintain that they believe she is dead.

Whatever happened to that girl???

 

[Elainera]

12.34 Clock: As Martin Steltner, spokesman for the Attorney General Berlin now confirmed, Florian R. is already at large. "He is a free man, there are no requirements. It is still investigated against him, he remains a suspect. But we do not want to speculate and check the facts. "Accordingly, Florian R. may also travel abroad. Although the girl's brother-in-law is accused of killing Rebecca, the chain of evidence does not seem to be sufficient enough to justify his pre-trial detention. "We have evidence and the clues are used to build an overall picture. And this overall picture is currently not enough to keep him in pre-trial detention. "

As Steltner further explains, the search for the girl continues in the same intensity, but also references to an involvement of the brother-in-law are still requested. "We do everything to find out who saw the vehicle and the suspect. We investigate in all directions but have to stick to facts. Although there is a direction we are going to take based on the evidence, we naturally also consider other directions. "
....

15:18 : As the police now confirmed, the search for Rebecca continues today on Friday. As the Morgenpost reports, the investigators of the homicide squad search with police dog handlers in a forest near the Scharmützelsee.

Rebecca Reusch (Berlin) vermisst: Schwager wieder frei - Familie hat vor allem eine Hoffnung | Welt

 

[worldwatcher]

What a roller coaster ride for Rebecca's family!
So, the search goes on in and around the area of the A12?
Don't know what to say, but imo it seems like an impossible task for LE to search, such a huge area...

 

[worldwatcher]

The case of Rebecca is getting more and more tangled. While the police continue to search feverishly for the body of the girl, the main suspect brother-in-law has been released from prison after barely three weeks in prison. Illegally suspected or released a guilty party? One of these two variants must be right. Both would have serious consequences.



Less than three weeks after Rebecca's brother-in-law Florian R. was arrested, the 27-year-old was released on Friday. The evidence of the investigators, who suspect him of the manslaughter of the 15-year-olds, were recognized by the court after a complaint of his lawyer as no longer sufficient for an urgent suspicion. This is the legal requirement for a detention. Now there are two variants.

Option 1: Rebecca's brother-in-law is not guilty
If Florian R.'s innocence turns out to be wrong, the homicide squad will have to ask why she stiffened so much in the investigation into Florian R. Although the investigators spoke of "overwhelming evidence". The problem: they could prove the 27-year-old so far no violence. For neither were found in his house, where he was apparently alone with Rebecca on the morning of her disappearance on 18 February alone, traces of violence, nor the investigators could find the body of the 15-year-olds yet.

Rebecca's family, who have hitherto been protective of their son-in-law, suspect that the daughter may have been kidnapped by an Internet acquaintance who made the daughter earlier this year. Apparently the police did not pursue this track with the same intensity. The question is: why?

It is almost certain that Florian R. will demand compensation for his imprisonment by proving his innocence. Pursuant to Article 7 of the Law on Compensation for Law Enforcement Measures, 25 euros are payable for each started day of imprisonment. The compensation fulfills the function of a compensation and compensation.

For the first time, Florian R.'s lawyer spoke in the media on Friday. In an interview with the RBB, she criticized the way the investigating authorities and the media deal with her client. The early publication of the photo of the suspect and other details by the police has led in many places to speculation and "virtually hunting for my client". Florian R. had been sentenced and the opportunity to return to normal life had been taken from him.

The police also accuse her of a one-page investigation that focused on finding a corpse "that may not exist," said the lawyer.

Example of justice history: the case of Donald Stellwag

A blatant example of a miscarriage of justice with high compensation is the case of the Franc Donald Stellwag. The man was imprisoned for eight years in a bank robbery with hostage taking in Nuremberg in 1991, although he was innocent. The reason: An appraiser wants to have recognized him on the photo of a security camera beyond doubt, and the court believed him. For this miscarriage of justice, the "expert" had to pay the victim later 150,000 euros compensation.

Option 2: Rebecca's brother-in-law is guilty
If it turns out that Florian R., however, is actually guilty, as the investigators believe, the court would today have set a serious criminal on the loose. This would be doubly tragic for Rebecca's family, who believed in his innocence and then realized that a member of their own family had their daughter's conscience. Theoretically conceivable would also be that the brother-in-law does not wait until the police find Rebecca's body - and flees.

Example of the history of justice: the case of Frederike Möhlmann

Also for this variant there are examples in the German justice history. The case of Frederike Möhlmann is especially tragic. At the age of 17, the girl from Hildesheim was raped on 4 November 1981 in Hambuehren and then brutally murdered with a knife. As a suspect, a young man named Ismet H. from Celle was discovered shortly afterwards. He was sentenced to life imprisonment in July 1982, but was acquitted by the Federal Supreme Court in 1983 following an appeal.

In 2015, ie 34 years after the fact, thanks to DNA detection that did not exist at that time, the clear blame of the once convicted person was proven. The tragic thing is that, according to the Code of Criminal Procedure, no one can be put on trial for a cause for which he was once acquitted.

Both cases show how difficult and unfair the case law can sometimes be.

In the video: "Please God, bring her back home": Rebecca's sister is desperately crying for help
Pray God, bring her back home: Rebecca's sister is desperate
Zu Unrecht verdächtigt oder schuldig entlassen? Folgenreicher Schritt im Fall Rebecca

 

[Jim_M]

The case of Rebecca is getting more and more tangled. While the police continue to search feverishly for the body of the girl, the main suspect brother-in-law has been released from prison after barely three weeks in prison. Illegally suspected or released a guilty party? One of these two variants must be right. Both would have serious consequences.



Less than three weeks after Rebecca's brother-in-law Florian R. was arrested, the 27-year-old was released on Friday. The evidence of the investigators, who suspect him of the manslaughter of the 15-year-olds, were recognized by the court after a complaint of his lawyer as no longer sufficient for an urgent suspicion. This is the legal requirement for a detention. Now there are two variants.

Option 1: Rebecca's brother-in-law is not guilty
If Florian R.'s innocence turns out to be wrong, the homicide squad will have to ask why she stiffened so much in the investigation into Florian R. Although the investigators spoke of "overwhelming evidence". The problem: they could prove the 27-year-old so far no violence. For neither were found in his house, where he was apparently alone with Rebecca on the morning of her disappearance on 18 February alone, traces of violence, nor the investigators could find the body of the 15-year-olds yet.

Rebecca's family, who have hitherto been protective of their son-in-law, suspect that the daughter may have been kidnapped by an Internet acquaintance who made the daughter earlier this year. Apparently the police did not pursue this track with the same intensity. The question is: why?

It is almost certain that Florian R. will demand compensation for his imprisonment by proving his innocence. Pursuant to Article 7 of the Law on Compensation for Law Enforcement Measures, 25 euros are payable for each started day of imprisonment. The compensation fulfills the function of a compensation and compensation.

For the first time, Florian R.'s lawyer spoke in the media on Friday. In an interview with the RBB, she criticized the way the investigating authorities and the media deal with her client. The early publication of the photo of the suspect and other details by the police has led in many places to speculation and "virtually hunting for my client". Florian R. had been sentenced and the opportunity to return to normal life had been taken from him.

The police also accuse her of a one-page investigation that focused on finding a corpse "that may not exist," said the lawyer.

Example of justice history: the case of Donald Stellwag

A blatant example of a miscarriage of justice with high compensation is the case of the Franc Donald Stellwag. The man was imprisoned for eight years in a bank robbery with hostage taking in Nuremberg in 1991, although he was innocent. The reason: An appraiser wants to have recognized him on the photo of a security camera beyond doubt, and the court believed him. For this miscarriage of justice, the "expert" had to pay the victim later 150,000 euros compensation.

Option 2: Rebecca's brother-in-law is guilty
If it turns out that Florian R., however, is actually guilty, as the investigators believe, the court would today have set a serious criminal on the loose. This would be doubly tragic for Rebecca's family, who believed in his innocence and then realized that a member of their own family had their daughter's conscience. Theoretically conceivable would also be that the brother-in-law does not wait until the police find Rebecca's body - and flees.

Example of the history of justice: the case of Frederike Möhlmann

Also for this variant there are examples in the German justice history. The case of Frederike Möhlmann is especially tragic. At the age of 17, the girl from Hildesheim was raped on 4 November 1981 in Hambuehren and then brutally murdered with a knife. As a suspect, a young man named Ismet H. from Celle was discovered shortly afterwards. He was sentenced to life imprisonment in July 1982, but was acquitted by the Federal Supreme Court in 1983 following an appeal.

In 2015, ie 34 years after the fact, thanks to DNA detection that did not exist at that time, the clear blame of the once convicted person was proven. The tragic thing is that, according to the Code of Criminal Procedure, no one can be put on trial for a cause for which he was once acquitted.

Both cases show how difficult and unfair the case law can sometimes be.

In the video: "Please God, bring her back home": Rebecca's sister is desperately crying for help
Pray God, bring her back home: Rebecca's sister is desperate
Zu Unrecht verdächtigt oder schuldig entlassen? Folgenreicher Schritt im Fall Rebecca

Thank you so much WW. This entire missing case is bewildering.

Appears that LE needs to look back over from day one (1), which was in actuality day four (4), since they ASSUMED she would return. Argh!!

Google Translate

~snips~ "For three days, the police were inactive after Rebecca's mother reported the disappearance on Monday night. This is common, as teens often tear out at that age and reappear relatively quickly."

[Original Article: Vater spricht in BILD: Wo ist meine Tochter Rebecca (15)?]

 

[worldwatcher]

Thank you so much WW. This entire missing case is bewildering.

Appears that LE needs to look back over from day one (1), which was in actuality day four (4), since they ASSUMED she would return. Argh!!

Google Translate

~snips~ "For three days, the police were inactive after Rebecca's mother reported the disappearance on Monday night. This is common, as teens often tear out at that age and reappear relatively quickly."

[Original Article: Vater spricht in BILD: Wo ist meine Tochter Rebecca (15)?]

It is!
If going back to,what is known about Febr.18,I do remember that there was an eyewitness,who knew one of Rebecca's sister very well,regonized R and saw her calling on the phone at the bus stop,at 18.00 6PM orso.
It must have been posted on this thread somewhere...?

 

[Elainera]

Florian's lawyer spoke up.


Defense attorney criticizes the investigative authorities and the media
For the first time on Friday, the defender of the defendant, the lawyer Petra Klein, spoke publicly. In the rbb interview she criticized the way the investigating authorities and the media deal with her client. The early publication of the photo of the suspect and various details by the police has led to speculation in many places and was called "virtually for hunting my client." This fact, as well as the daily media coverage, automatically led to a conviction that deprives her client of the opportunity to return to normal life - although the presumption of innocence still applies. "As long as he has not been properly sentenced by a court, he is considered innocent," said Klein. Her client wants a fair trial in which his rights are respected.

In addition, Klein accuses the police of unilateral investigations against their client. "One might suspect at present that the police are no longer primarily pursuing the investigation of the case, but are actually only busy with the search for a body that may not even exist," she told the rbb.

Haftbefehl gegen Schwager von Rebecca aufgehoben

 

[Elainera]

It is!
If going back to,what is known about Febr.18,I do remember that there was an eyewitness,who knew one of Rebecca's sister very well,regonized R and saw her calling on the phone at the bus stop,at 18.00 6PM orso.
It must have been posted on this thread somewhere...?

Yes there was someone, a friend of one of the sisters. I hope it was followed up by LE. It was kind of discounted because Rebecca phone was off though.

 

[Jim_M]

It is!
If going back to,what is known about Febr.18,I do remember that there was an eyewitness,who knew one of Rebecca's sister very well,regonized R and saw her calling on the phone at the bus stop,at 18.00 6PM orso.
It must have been posted on this thread somewhere...?

15 minutes fame?

From Elainera!!

ETA: No From You!! I hit wrong quote dangit

"March 5, 2019 - 9:46 pm

Was Rebecca still at a bus stop on the evening of 18 February?
The case of the missing student Rebecca (15) from Berlin continues to raise many questions. Even if a suspect is currently in custody - the circumstances surrounding the disappearance of the girl are so far completely unclear. The investigators know so far only that her phone between 7 and 8 clock in the morning on 18 February the last time connected to the router in the apartment of her sister . But now a new witness claims to have seen Rebecca at a bus stop almost twelve hours later.

"I'm 1000 percent sure that it was Rebecca"
"She stood behind me at a bus stop, as normal as always [...] she had phoned someone," Samantha J. (18) tells RTL. However, she does not know who Rebecca was phoning with. "I was on my way to a birthday and then boarded the bus 15 minutes later, where she was still standing at the bus stop, and I do not know where she went afterwards."

Rebecca herself knows Samantha only by sight - but she is absolutely sure that the girl she saw at the bus stop is the missing person. "I recognized her face, and when I see people, I do not confuse them," she says. She was "more than 100 percent sure" that the girl had been Rebecca.

Samantha knows Rebecca's sister Vivien from before
Samantha was in a cheerleading group with Rebecca's sister Vivien. The two had but no longer contact. "When I saw Rebecca missing the day after, I immediately wrote Vivien," says Samantha. She also wants to have told the police, of which she was heard today as a witness according to their own testimony.
If Samantha is not mistaken, her statement would be a hot hit for the police. An inserted beagle tracked Rebecca's lane to a bus stop - that's where Samantha wants to see her. But even if Rebecca was still at the bus stop in the evening - more than two weeks have passed since then, when there was no sign of her life. Police are currently targeting Rebecca's brother-in-law. Rebecca was seen in the apartment the last time he lives with her sister. After being provisionally released last week, he is now back in custody. According to prosecutors, he is silent on the allegations against him. Rebecca's family is behind him and is sure that he is innocent
Vermisstes Mädchen aus Berlin: Zeugin will Rebecca (15) noch am Tag ihres Verschwindens gesehen haben
Bouncing...
Until Monday morning 180 tips were recieved by police.

Last edited: Mar 5, 2019"

ETA2: Sorry for the mess

 

[Rosiebones]

Yes there was someone, a friend of one of the sisters. I hope it was followed up by LE. It was kind of discounted because Rebecca phone was off though.

Could it have been a burner phone and her known phone remained turned off?

 

[worldwatcher]

From Elainera!!

ETA: No From You!! I hit wrong quote dangit

"March 5, 2019 - 9:46 pm

Was Rebecca still at a bus stop on the evening of 18 February?
The case of the missing student Rebecca (15) from Berlin continues to raise many questions. Even if a suspect is currently in custody - the circumstances surrounding the disappearance of the girl are so far completely unclear. The investigators know so far only that her phone between 7 and 8 clock in the morning on 18 February the last time connected to the router in the apartment of her sister . But now a new witness claims to have seen Rebecca at a bus stop almost twelve hours later.

"I'm 1000 percent sure that it was Rebecca"
"She stood behind me at a bus stop, as normal as always [...] she had phoned someone," Samantha J. (18) tells RTL. However, she does not know who Rebecca was phoning with. "I was on my way to a birthday and then boarded the bus 15 minutes later, where she was still standing at the bus stop, and I do not know where she went afterwards."

Rebecca herself knows Samantha only by sight - but she is absolutely sure that the girl she saw at the bus stop is the missing person. "I recognized her face, and when I see people, I do not confuse them," she says. She was "more than 100 percent sure" that the girl had been Rebecca.

Samantha knows Rebecca's sister Vivien from before
Samantha was in a cheerleading group with Rebecca's sister Vivien. The two had but no longer contact. "When I saw Rebecca missing the day after, I immediately wrote Vivien," says Samantha. She also wants to have told the police, of which she was heard today as a witness according to their own testimony.
If Samantha is not mistaken, her statement would be a hot hit for the police. An inserted beagle tracked Rebecca's lane to a bus stop - that's where Samantha wants to see her. But even if Rebecca was still at the bus stop in the evening - more than two weeks have passed since then, when there was no sign of her life. Police are currently targeting Rebecca's brother-in-law. Rebecca was seen in the apartment the last time he lives with her sister. After being provisionally released last week, he is now back in custody. According to prosecutors, he is silent on the allegations against him. Rebecca's family is behind him and is sure that he is innocent
Vermisstes Mädchen aus Berlin: Zeugin will Rebecca (15) noch am Tag ihres Verschwindens gesehen haben
Bouncing...
Until Monday morning 180 tips were recieved by police.

Last edited: Mar 5, 2019"

ETA2: Sorry for the mess

Waiting for the bus...or the bus stop was a meetingpoint?
Seems like everything is still open..at this point.

 

[Jim_M]

Waiting for the bus...or the bus stop was a meetingpoint?
Seems like everything is still open..at this point.

Right! But this friend who supposedly saw RR at 18:00 (6pm) that night: did LE ever actually follow up on any of that? Did they figure out if a second phone was in play here?

 

[worldwatcher]

Right! But this friend who supposedly saw RR at 18:00 (6pm) that night: did LE ever actually follow up on any of that? Did they figure out if a second phone was in play here?

LE could have narrow this down,asking the bus drivers or watched CCTV,if the footage wasnt recorded over..?
Anyway,guess LE ruled it out,otherwise the focus would have not been,BIL...?

 

[Rosiebones]

Right! But this friend who supposedly saw RR at 18:00 (6pm) that night: did LE ever actually follow up on any of that? Did they figure out if a second phone was in play here?

If this account is indeed accurate, where did she spend the day? Where did she intend to spend the night? Did she still have the blanket and did she take it to keep warm in the attic, for instance until she left the house?
Also, just because he didn't see her on the couch when he looked at a little after 8 am, doesn't mean she wasn't somewhere else in the house, hiding until he left. She could have turned off her own phone and used a burner phone.

 

[Jim_M]

If this account is indeed accurate, where did she spend the day? Where did she intend to spend the night? Did she still have the blanket and did she take it to keep warm in the attic, for instance until she left the house?
Also, just because he didn't see her on the couch when he looked at a little after 8 am, doesn't mean she wasn't somewhere else in the house, hiding until he left. She could have turned off her own phone and used a burner phone.

Good points. And as long as she didn't connect to the wifi, there would be no trace of the phone.

Hmmm, does LE have capability of tracing pings on any/all phones in the house, not just via the wifi?

Although, it may be way too late for anything like that still being in a database.

 

[Rosiebones]

"Einfach so wegbleiben würde sie uns nicht antun"
In this article, the older sister states that RR "definitely walked to the bus stop for school" that morning. How does she. personally know this, because she left the house at 7 AM to take the kids to day care and she didn't look in to know if RR was still asleep/alive on the couch?

 

[Elainera]

"Einfach so wegbleiben würde sie uns nicht antun"
In this article, the older sister states that RR "definitely walked to the bus stop for school" that morning. How does she. personally know this, because she left the house at 7 AM to take the kids to day care and she didn't look in to know if RR was still asleep/alive on the couch?

She said this because a dog followed R's trail to the bus stop.

 

[Elainera]

Could it have been a burner phone and her known phone remained turned off?

Right! But this friend who supposedly saw RR at 18:00 (6pm) that night: did LE ever actually follow up on any of that? Did they figure out if a second phone was in play here?

I was reading about this case on a German forum and people were saying that you need to show id when you buy a phone or SIM card. It's not anonymous anymore. But maybe someone gave her a phone?

 

[Elainera]

Anyway,guess LE ruled it out,otherwise the focus would have not been,BIL

Or, because of the circumstantial evidence at the house and his convoluted story they only focussed on him and didn't follow up on any sightings?

They still maintain that she didn't leave the house alive.

But the lawyer seems not convinced ("a body that may not even exist"). And she knows the case file.

 

[Rosiebones]

Please correct me if I have misinterpreted the facts as presented.
No one actually saw RR on the morning of her disappearance. The BIL could only say when he looked, she wasn't on the couch. The sister didn't look before she left at 7AM. RR may or may not have still been in the house.
When was the blanket reported to be missing? She may have taken it to keep warm in the attic or basement until the house was empty (BLD gone to work). Did anyone see her at the bus top with her back pack etc. and a folded blanket in her arms early in the morning?
It wouldn't be the first time a teen-ager remained/came back to an empty house to meet someone, knowing others wouldn't be home from work until late afternoon or early evening.