Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #6

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In an exclusive interview with The Post Monday, Asa Ellerup, 59, said she’s been riddled with anxiety after investigators spent 12 days ripping up her Massapequa Park home in their search for evidence in the alleged slayings.

The damage is so bad, she said, she doesn’t even have a bed to sleep in.

“I woke up in the middle of the night, shivering,” a still-shocked Ellerup said. “Anxiety.

My children cry themselves to sleep. I mean, they’re not children. They’re grown adults but they’re my children, and my son has developmental disabilities and he cried himself to sleep,” she continued about the emotional toll the stunning case has had on her kids.

Her daughter, Victoria Heuermann, meanwhile, has expressed feeling “not human” in wake of the mess left behind.

Asked what she meant, Ellerup’s lawyer, Bob Macedonio, chimed in, “She meant what they’ve done to them and the family is not even human. They were just complete animals. They treated them like animals.”



Images from inside the home obtained exclusively by The Post show a disheveled nightmare, with boxes strewn about and piled up high. One photo shows a piece of the bathtub cut out and a chunk of the tile on the floor missing.

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In an exclusive interview with The Post Monday, Asa Ellerup, 59, said she’s been riddled with anxiety after investigators spent 12 days ripping up her Massapequa Park home in their search for evidence in the alleged slayings.

The damage is so bad, she said, she doesn’t even have a bed to sleep in.

“I woke up in the middle of the night, shivering,” a still-shocked Ellerup said. “Anxiety.

My children cry themselves to sleep. I mean, they’re not children. They’re grown adults but they’re my children, and my son has developmental disabilities and he cried himself to sleep,” she continued about the emotional toll the stunning case has had on her kids.

Her daughter, Victoria Heuermann, meanwhile, has expressed feeling “not human” in wake of the mess left behind.

Asked what she meant, Ellerup’s lawyer, Bob Macedonio, chimed in, “She meant what they’ve done to them and the family is not even human. They were just complete animals. They treated them like animals.”



Images from inside the home obtained exclusively by The Post show a disheveled nightmare, with boxes strewn about and piled up high. One photo shows a piece of the bathtub cut out and a chunk of the tile on the floor missing.

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This is heart wrenching. How the hell are they supposed to to live like this? It seems like the only place for them to sit comfortably on their property, either inside or out is on the front porch. It’s so unfair. My heart is bleeding for this family. I wish they could have temporary housing, even if it was in a hotel.
 
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This is heart wrenching. How the hell are they supposed to to live like this? It seems like the only place for them to sit comfortably on their property, either inside or out is on the front porch. It’s so unfair. My heart is bleeding for this family. I wish they could have temporary housing, even if it was in a hotel.
Really awful. According to LE the house was cluttered to begin with. Now its not inhabitable. This is just so wrong.
 
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This is heart wrenching. How the hell are they supposed to to live like this? It seems like the only place for them to sit comfortably on their property, either inside or out is on the front porch. It’s so unfair. My heart is bleeding for this family. I wish they could have temporary housing, even if it was in a hotel.
For comparison, not to go off topic but noting..
Canadian killer Russell William's wife insisted her new floors be replaced after they became scratched during a search by LE. It was done.
''BELLEVILLE, Ont. - Ontario taxpayers footed the bill to repair the floors of convicted sex killer Col. Russell Williams' Ottawa home after police searched it for evidence.
An Ontario Provincial Police spokeswoman says if there's damage after police search a home, an owner can seek compensation.
Sgt. Kristine Rae says such a request was made for the Williams residence, and it was granted.''

''The brother of one of Williams' murder victims, Andy Lloyd, called it ridiculous that police paid "$3,000 to fix her hardwood floors and apparently $1,400 to fix a lamp because the OPP damaged them dragging boxes of bras out of her house."
 
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Hopefuly ,once Rex is hung out to dry , we can put those Manorville Victims in a stable place and figure that out . I just am not sure that Rex isnt involved in those other cases but it does seems clear if it was him his MO changed , so much that the crimes do not look like the other ones,which I really believe could happen over a 40 year killing spree.
Shannon mentioned Jones Beach in her 911 call, which I thought was interesting in relation to her being freaked out and thinking Mike set her up. Were there rumors amoung the sex workers working out of AC about Jones Beach? I remember gooogling through bad date post in the area but nothing stood out to me .
Jessica wants her murder solved ,she had to be found twice ,I have this feeling about dog hair they were hoping to find at Rex's but didnt.
Anyway I had one time heard that JT had lived in Orange county VA during her high school years does anyone have any notes on this?
I've seen some people here speculate that he was here among us watching the investigation etc. Even using us to figure out how to contact the producers of The Killing Season. It could be, if that is the case, he used it to figure out he had to change his MO. Especially if he's been stalking and killing for decades. He would have to evolve, if anything with technology evolving and with other killers having similar ideas (like the mutual 'dump' site) he would likely get more paranoid if anything.

Even if he was a narcissist, even if he thought he was too smart or too good like most SK narcissists do, he would have to have sweat a couple times throughout these investigations. Then when he would skate, that's when the confidence would come back and he'd just continue. Maybe changing the MO, maybe changing something else along the way. This is completely an opinion and speculation of course.

My question is, even though they are saying he isn't connected (For whatever reasons we may not know yet) to at least the AC killings. Who's to say this isn't some network of killers across the country just going after SW? Could this actually be some sort of network of killers that want to get rid of SW? Or some weird form of INCELS that are even more angry with women for their various reasons communicating on the dark web and back channels and burner phones. I mean sometimes a spade isn't a spade and whole networks are discovered. Look what happened with Epstein. This is huge Hollywood stretching on my brain's part but what if somehow all these murders are related? Just not how we think they are and not in a way we've discovered yet and what if there are fail safes so we never do so it just keeps happening? I mean stranger things right? But yeah, just pure speculation here on my part just wanted to get the elephant out of my head and into the room I guess even if it's a little pink one ^_^
 
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For comparison, not to go off topic but noting..
Canadian killer Russell William's wife insisted her new floors be replaced after they became scratched during a search by LE. It was done.
''BELLEVILLE, Ont. - Ontario taxpayers footed the bill to repair the floors of convicted sex killer Col. Russell Williams' Ottawa home after police searched it for evidence.
An Ontario Provincial Police spokeswoman says if there's damage after police search a home, an owner can seek compensation.
Sgt. Kristine Rae says such a request was made for the Williams residence, and it was granted.''

''The brother of one of Williams' murder victims, Andy Lloyd, called it ridiculous that police paid "$3,000 to fix her hardwood floors and apparently $1,400 to fix a lamp because the OPP damaged them dragging boxes of bras out of her house."
I would hope the county does the right thing by them. I know it’s not something that would happen overnight, but they have to help them and give them a functional home to live in.
 
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In an exclusive interview with The Post Monday, Asa Ellerup, 59, said she’s been riddled with anxiety after investigators spent 12 days ripping up her Massapequa Park home in their search for evidence in the alleged slayings.

The damage is so bad, she said, she doesn’t even have a bed to sleep in.

“I woke up in the middle of the night, shivering,” a still-shocked Ellerup said. “Anxiety.

My children cry themselves to sleep. I mean, they’re not children. They’re grown adults but they’re my children, and my son has developmental disabilities and he cried himself to sleep,” she continued about the emotional toll the stunning case has had on her kids.

Her daughter, Victoria Heuermann, meanwhile, has expressed feeling “not human” in wake of the mess left behind.

Asked what she meant, Ellerup’s lawyer, Bob Macedonio, chimed in, “She meant what they’ve done to them and the family is not even human. They were just complete animals. They treated them like animals.”



Images from inside the home obtained exclusively by The Post show a disheveled nightmare, with boxes strewn about and piled up high. One photo shows a piece of the bathtub cut out and a chunk of the tile on the floor missing.

BBM

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That fund raiser needs to happen, they need to hire a skip and buy some new things with the proceeds of the funding.

it seems very obvious that she has no money of her own at all.
I'm mentally adding slavery to his list of crimes, he probably controlled every cent.
i think it's right she reclaims her home, her social structures and whatever help she receives for her son, if any are in proximity to that address.

She talks about her 3000$ greenhouse. not an awful lot of money but huge to her.. it would be great if neighbours bought her a new one and got her some plants to start over... she needs that contact with plants, it seems.

She again, demonstrates great love for her children.
She improvises well, she didn't lie down and die, she sorted makeshift beds..
they are together and together they will be able to face it.

She's no longer angry at the media, saving her energy for her priorities, existence.
i wish her the best and that she regains her strength and will to move forward and I think it's likely she is motivated to do that now, if not for herself, for her children.

It's early days yet however.

I continue to hope she will not relent and go visit him because she will lose all public support, if she has any, if she weakens in that regard, she will also lose herself and right now she is all she has.

Forward Sister!
3 magic words
DON'T LOOK BACK!
 
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Hopefuly ,once Rex is hung out to dry , we can put those Manorville Victims in a stable place and figure that out . I just am not sure that Rex isnt involved in those other cases but it does seems clear if it was him his MO changed , so much that the crimes do not look like the other ones,which I really believe could happen over a 40 year killing spree.
Shannon mentioned Jones Beach in her 911 call, which I thought was interesting in relation to her being freaked out and thinking Mike set her up. Were there rumors amoung the sex workers working out of AC about Jones Beach? I remember gooogling through bad date post in the area but nothing stood out to me .
Jessica wants her murder solved ,she had to be found twice ,I have this feeling about dog hair they were hoping to find at Rex's but didnt.
Anyway I had one time heard that JT had lived in Orange county VA during her high school years does anyone have any notes on this?
Re: Jessica Taylor....I had not heard of the Orange, VA connection before, but will see what I can find as that area is very near to where I'm located.

It is my understanding her missing persons report was done in Washington DC
 
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In an exclusive interview with The Post Monday, Asa Ellerup, 59, said she’s been riddled with anxiety after investigators spent 12 days ripping up her Massapequa Park home in their search for evidence in the alleged slayings.

The damage is so bad, she said, she doesn’t even have a bed to sleep in.

“I woke up in the middle of the night, shivering,” a still-shocked Ellerup said. “Anxiety.

My children cry themselves to sleep. I mean, they’re not children. They’re grown adults but they’re my children, and my son has developmental disabilities and he cried himself to sleep,” she continued about the emotional toll the stunning case has had on her kids.

Her daughter, Victoria Heuermann, meanwhile, has expressed feeling “not human” in wake of the mess left behind.

Asked what she meant, Ellerup’s lawyer, Bob Macedonio, chimed in, “She meant what they’ve done to them and the family is not even human. They were just complete animals. They treated them like animals.”



Images from inside the home obtained exclusively by The Post show a disheveled nightmare, with boxes strewn about and piled up high. One photo shows a piece of the bathtub cut out and a chunk of the tile on the floor missing.

BBM

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It’s awful what’s happened to them and their house, but her attorney is pointing the blame in the wrong direction. It is RH, the alleged murderer of the women who has done this to them. LE HAD to conduct their search and investigation, and to the full extent called for in the warrant and they cannot be limited by the fact that the subject of their search is a home where others live. Justice for the murder victims demands that evidence that probable cause indicates may be there be sought out, regardless of the damage that search entails.

Her attorney should instead be appealing for help on the basis that AE and her adult children are innocent victims too and the betrayal by RH has cost them in their own home.
 
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For comparison, not to go off topic but noting..
Canadian killer Russell William's wife insisted her new floors be replaced after they became scratched during a search by LE. It was done.
''BELLEVILLE, Ont. - Ontario taxpayers footed the bill to repair the floors of convicted sex killer Col. Russell Williams' Ottawa home after police searched it for evidence.
An Ontario Provincial Police spokeswoman says if there's damage after police search a home, an owner can seek compensation.
Sgt. Kristine Rae says such a request was made for the Williams residence, and it was granted.''

''The brother of one of Williams' murder victims, Andy Lloyd, called it ridiculous that police paid "$3,000 to fix her hardwood floors and apparently $1,400 to fix a lamp because the OPP damaged them dragging boxes of bras out of her house."
Wow. In the US, this kind of thing happens more often with vehicles. A vehicle is lent or stolen and is searched for a crime it, too, is often returned with the interior gutted out.

It seems reasonable to me that a cooperating unaccused party should be compensated at least to restore vehicles or homes to functioning. Maybe cosmetic damage and inessential removed property can be tolerated for the sake of Justice. But, couldn't she at least have a mattress, a fridge, a dumpster and a few chairs?


Edited to add: I wonder how what it was LE thought could have been seeping between the bathroom tiles and under the fiberglass bathtub? I wonder if they found reason to believe someone other than Rex and AE was in the bed? What do they think will be learned from the freezer and fridge?

MOO
 
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Isn't the township considering buying the house? Even if unfair to the family, moving to a new place might be cheaper and easier than trying to restore that place under current circumstances.

It's painful to think how much damage that ogre caused.

jmo
 
  • #533
Isn't the township considering buying the house? Even if unfair to the family, moving to a new place might be cheaper and easier than trying to restore that place under current circumstances.

It's painful to think how much damage that ogre caused.

jmo
That may have been media speculating.

I think she should keep it and try to find a way to fix it up now that he no longer controls her.
 
  • #534
Isn't the township considering buying the house? Even if unfair to the family, moving to a new place might be cheaper and easier than trying to restore that place under current circumstances.

It's painful to think how much damage that ogre caused.

jmo
The mayor said they will file a petition to purchase the home.
 
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It’s awful what’s happened to them and their house, but her attorney is pointing the blame in the wrong direction. It is RH, the alleged murderer of the women who has done this to them. LE HAD to conduct their search and investigation, and to the full extent called for in the warrant and they cannot be limited by the fact that the subject of their search is a home where others live. Justice for the murder victims demands that evidence that probable cause indicates may be there be sought out, regardless of the damage that search entails.

Her attorney should instead be appealing for help on the basis that AE and her adult children are innocent victims too and the betrayal by RH has cost them in their own home.
So true.
i don’t see them getting any money from SCPD.
This is part of the investigation. Into a serial killer.
 
  • #536
Isn't the township considering buying the house? Even if unfair to the family, moving to a new place might be cheaper and easier than trying to restore that place under current circumstances.

It's painful to think how much damage that ogre caused.

jmo
Even if that is the case, I would think if they go anywhere while this case is 'hot' so to speak they could be recognized. And while they would have actions to take, those actions take time should they encounter any bias in looking for a new place such as being turned away or dealing with any sort of price gouging. Not to mention the cameras will follow them if they just pick up and move now. I think they would have to wait until there is less interest in them. It's most certainly just my opinion but they may have to stick it out a little bit longer. If only to not leave bread crumbs for them to be followed and start the whole mess over in a new home.

Granted the new home could be better equipped with curtains and such to help them keep their privacy. But I doubt anything the township offers would not be enough to purchase a new home and completely refurbish it as well. It would still be a great hardship. But like any narcissist RH he didn't think about them when he did all this
 
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Hopefuly ,once Rex is hung out to dry , we can put those Manorville Victims in a stable place and figure that out . I just am not sure that Rex isnt involved in those other cases but it does seems clear if it was him his MO changed , so much that the crimes do not look like the other ones,which I really believe could happen over a 40 year killing spree.
Shannon mentioned Jones Beach in her 911 call, which I thought was interesting in relation to her being freaked out and thinking Mike set her up. Were there rumors amoung the sex workers working out of AC about Jones Beach? I remember gooogling through bad date post in the area but nothing stood out to me .
Jessica wants her murder solved ,she had to be found twice ,I have this feeling about dog hair they were hoping to find at Rex's but didnt.
Anyway I had one time heard that JT had lived in Orange county VA during her high school years does anyone have any notes on this?
I did not see Jessica listed in any of the Orange County VA high school yearbooks from the late 90's-early 2000's. There is and has only been 1 high school in that county. If she lived there, I would guess she would've been very young and not in her teen years. This website says she's originally from Poughkeepsie, and sounds like her pimp took her between DC/NY. Murdered: Jessica Taylor | Manorville, NY | Uncovered
 
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Even if that is the case, I would think if they go anywhere while this case is 'hot' so to speak they could be recognized. And while they would have actions to take, those actions take time should they encounter any bias in looking for a new place such as being turned away or dealing with any sort of price gouging. Not to mention the cameras will follow them if they just pick up and move now. I think they would have to wait until there is less interest in them. It's most certainly just my opinion but they may have to stick it out a little bit longer. If only to not leave bread crumbs for them to be followed and start the whole mess over in a new home.

Granted the new home could be better equipped with curtains and such to help them keep their privacy. But I doubt anything the township offers would not be enough to purchase a new home and completely refurbish it as well. It would still be a great hardship. But like any narcissist RH he didn't think about them when he did all this
I can't imagine being in the families shoes. Whether they stay in Massapequa or go elsewhere, their names will likely always carry a stigma simply for being related to this monster.
 
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Even if that is the case, I would think if they go anywhere while this case is 'hot' so to speak they could be recognized. And while they would have actions to take, those actions take time should they encounter any bias in looking for a new place such as being turned away or dealing with any sort of price gouging. Not to mention the cameras will follow them if they just pick up and move now. I think they would have to wait until there is less interest in them. It's most certainly just my opinion but they may have to stick it out a little bit longer. If only to not leave bread crumbs for them to be followed and start the whole mess over in a new home.

Granted the new home could be better equipped with curtains and such to help them keep their privacy. But I doubt anything the township offers would not be enough to purchase a new home and completely refurbish it as well. It would still be a great hardship. But like any narcissist RH he didn't think about them when he did all this
I really mean for their ease in the moment, to not fatigue themselves beyond what is tolerable. I would think moving to a place where they can take a bath without a half the tub missing and where you don't have to move literally move a ton of furniture to find a chair would be easier than fixing up the house on their own, where literally everything is jumbled and ripped up. Right now, I'd put priority on conserving strength because, unfortunately, the struggle is going to be a long haul.

But, not my business. I wish her well.

jmo
 
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I really mean for their ease in the moment, to not fatigue themselves beyond what is tolerable. I would think moving to a place where they can take a bath without a half the tub missing and where you don't have to move literally move a ton of furniture to find a chair would be easier than fixing up the house on their own, where literally everything is jumbled and ripped up. Right now, I'd put priority on conserving strength because, unfortunately, the struggle is going to be a long haul.

But, not my business. I wish her well.

jmo
Maybe an RV can be leased for the family to stay in on the property for a little while?
 
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