GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, killed in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #21

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chuan had floyd in the police car and then pulled him out agian i cant see the hell he did that none o this makes any sense what chuan did and what floyd did
 
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*It is unclear if the latest move is related to that stabbing. The Big Spring prison is listed as a low security federal correctional institution “with an adjacent minimum security satellite camp.”
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After being transferred to a facility in Oklahoma, former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin is being moved to a federal prison in Big Springs, Texas, according to a source for ABC News.​


You can find KSTP’s full reporting on the murder of George Floyd here.
 
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IMO:
It's a "no-starter" and wishful thinking from another expert who supported Chauvin.

What works against Chauvin is he continued keeping his knee on Floyd's neck and according to the testimonies during Chauvin's trial he ignored all warnings from bystanders, his fellow officers, and his own police training by maintaining his knee on GF's neck when there were clear signs that GF was struggling to breathe and was losing consciousness,
He ignored training about using proportional force and the need to carefully monitor a suspect's condition carefully and to give medical aid.
Even after GF was lifeless DC kept his knee on his neck and it was a medic that had to nudge DC to take his knee off him.

Take away all that and it's impossible to prove that GF would have died from a heart condition that afternoon while in Chauvin's custody.
 
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hes got a big hill to climb to get out of jail but its not impossible
 
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hes got a big hill to climb to get out of jail but its not impossible
This motion for GF's autopsy report is for Chauvin's federal charges that he plead guilty to and got 21 yrs.
It has nothing to do with the state conviction 22.5 yrs.
The only way he could appeal the fed deal was "ineffective counsel".
He already lost 2 appeals for "ineffective counsel" for the state conviction.
IMO:
His latest theory is as lame as the defense expert at his trail saying it could have been the carbon monoxide that killed GF because his head was near the police car's exhaust.
 
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Interesting that Judge Paul Magnuson also presided over the federal trial of officers Alexander Kueng, Thomas Lane and Tou Thao for violating GF's civil rights, all three were convicted and Judge Magnuson sentenced them.
 
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his appeal revolves around his claim that he didn't know what was in the autopsy report when he agreed to plead guilty
 
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IMO:
Eric Nelson who was DC's defense attorney wouldn't have called Dr.William Schaetzel as a witness because he's a pathologist and not a forensic pathologist.
Schaetzel deals with living patients and their diseases, not deceased individuals to determine the cause of death.
Chauvin's only doctor who testified for his defense was Dr. Fowler, a retired forensic pathologist and Chief Medical Examiner for Maryland.
He tried the "excited delirium" and has been under investigation since the GF trial for his testifing go-to "excited delirium" in many cases
when Black men died in police custody.

Nelson already tried the "heart" and"adrenaline" theory and it didn't fly with the jurors.


The ‘other causes’ theory​

What is it?
"The defense’s primary argument is that Floyd’s death was not due to Chauvin’s actions but happened for other medical reasons. The defense has emphasized Floyd’s drug use, his initial resistance to officers and his preexisting heart problems.

“The evidence will show that Mr. Floyd died of a cardiac arrhythmia that occurred as a result of hypertension, his coronary disease, the ingestion of methamphetamine and fentanyl, and the adrenaline flowing through his body, all of which acted to further compromise an already compromised heart,” Nelson said in opening statements.

Why does it matter?
To get a conviction on any of the three charges, prosecutors have to prove Chauvin’s actions were a “substantial cause” of Floyd’s death. The defense is hoping to undermine that causal link."


 
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Hey Chauvin,

Been there done that.

"Fowler listed a multitude of potential factors: Floyd’s narrowed arteries, his enlarged heart, his high blood pressure, his drug use, the stress of his restraint, the vehicle exhaust, and a tumor or growth in his lower abdomen that can sometimes play a role in high blood pressure by releasing “fight-or-flight” hormones.

Fowler said all of those factors could have acted together to cause Floyd’s heart to work harder, suffer an arrhythmia, or abnormal rhythm, and suddenly stop."

 
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his appeal revolves around his claimat he didn't know what was in the autopsy report when he agreed to plead guilty
The same autopsy report used at his earlier trial? The trial he sat through? I think that's a bit of a stretch. Hopefully the judge is just covering all bases by allowing this.
 
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No matter what happens with DC and GF's tissues/etc it doesn't effect his 22.5 yr state sentence.
 
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No matter what happens with DC and GF's tissues/etc it doesn't effect his 22.5 yr state sentence.

This is never ending story :rolleyes:

DC has only himself to blame.
Was it so hard to lift this knee and let the arrestee breathe?

Even kindergarten kids know that one must avoid squeezing the neck while playing.

How long is this case going to drag?
How much time, money and effort is it going to absorb still?

JMO
 
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This is never ending story :rolleyes:

DC has only himself to blame.
Was it so hard to lift this knee and let the arrestee breathe?

Even kindergarten kids know that one must avoid squeezing the neck while playing.

How long is this case going to drag?
How much time, money and effort is it going to absorb still?

JMO
Chauvin had no were else to go then to his federal guilty plea deal conviction.
Maybe the strategy is if he can get his fed conviction overturned then he can appeal again to the state but this time using the fed decision and go again for a new trial?
IMO: He can sit and rot forever.

He already lost:

The Minnesota court of appeals upheld Chauvin's state conviction, 22.5 yrs.

The US Supreme Court declined to hear his appeal, effectively leaving his state conviction in place.
 
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Nearly five years after George Floyd’s death sparked global protests against racial injustice, J. Alexander Kueng, one of the former Minneapolis police officers involved in Floyd’s killing, is set to be released from federal prison. According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, Kueng will leave the low-security Elkton correctional facility in Lisbon, Ohio, on January 15, 2025
 
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Billionaire Elon Musk has shared his thoughts on a growing campaign urging President Donald Trump to pardon Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer convicted in the 2020 murder of George Floyd.
 

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