MN MN - Madeline Jane Kingsbury, 26, mother of 2, Winona 31 Mar 2023

[Joe Friday]

It's about an hour drive from Maddi's Winona address to the Fravel family home on County Rd 18 where I believe the children were taken into state custody.

According to AF he was gone in Maddi's van for three and a half hours (10:00 AM to 1:30 PM) So an hour there, an hour back, that leaves an hour and a half unaccounted for.

We know for certain a van matching the description of Maddi's van was seen on a security camera heading away from Winona on Hwy 43 and then returning later in the opposite direction during the time frame AF likely had the van. IIRC Maddi's sister said the video of the van was from a store in Rushford, which is south of Winona about 30 minutes. LE should know the exact times when the van was recorded on video going in both directions. From that LE should be able to narrow the window of time to know how far the van could have traveled from where the van was captured on video if driven at the normal speed limits.

Cell phone data would also be very useful. If AF was driving the van that matched the description of Maddi's van seen on video and AF had a cell phone. Data from the cell phone and what towers the phone was connecting to may show the route he took, where he may have stopped and how long of time he spent where he went. The cell phone data could also be used to corroborate what he may have told investigators regarding his whereabouts during that time.

If AF said he was in one area of Minnesota during a given time, but his cell phone places him somewhere else during that time, it wouldn't look very good on his part.

JMO

 

[Mert]

I am thinking it was stated or rumored that his phone had been turned off? Was that ever confirmed?

*My opinion

 

[JennieM]

I am thinking it was stated or rumored that his phone had been turned off? Was that ever confirmed?

*My opinion

I don't think it's ever been reported Mert.

 

[Mert]

I don't think it's ever been reported Mert.

Thank you for the quick clear up. For some reason I thought I had seen that, but I must have been wrong. Don’t want to guide others down a wrong path!

*My opinion

 

[JennieM]

Thank you for the quick clear up. For some reason I thought I had seen that, but I must have been wrong. Don’t want to guide others down a wrong path!

*My opinion

Maybe you came across it somewhere as a comment or speculation but nothing has been verified. The police has released very little info on AF, and that's mainly on his last sighting of Maddi and timings related to that.

 

[PommyMommy]

Missing: Madeline Kingsbury​

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On March 31, Madeline Kingsbury dropped off her two children at day care, but she hasn’t been seen since. Her family says they remain committed to finding her.

 

[bestill]

Missing: Madeline Kingsbury​

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On March 31, Madeline Kingsbury dropped off her two children at day care, but she hasn’t been seen since. Her family says they remain committed to finding her.

Let's keep her case alive! Thank you PommyMommy!

 

[JennieM]

So the reply text to her sister was only LOL.

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[JennieM]

Poor Maddi

It's so clear what's happened here. Praying they find her quickly.

 

[Knox]

ROCHESTER, Minn. (KTTC) – The search for the missing Winona woman, Madeline Kingbury continues after 19 long days and her family isn’t going to stop until she is brought home. Traveling all the way from active duty overseas, Steven Kingsbury has come back to Minnesota in hopes of finding his sister, covering around 15 miles of rough terrain a day.

“My function is best served doing what I’m doing, serving my family, helping advise search efforts and executing them personally,” Steven Kingsbury explained.

Covering many miles of bluff country on foot, Steven Kingsbury hopes to find the piece of the puzzle that brings Madeline home. He said he uses some speculation to guide him.

“There’s some pieces of terrain here that warrant being look at but may not be 100% realistic,” Steven Kingsbury said.

Now, a new development to help in the search, a blue check mark for property owners to put out signifying their property can be searched.

Brother of missing Winona woman weighs in on search efforts

Covering many miles of bluff country on foot, Steven Kingsbury hopes to find the piece of the puzzle that brings Madeline home.

www.kttc.com

 

[Knox]

Finding Madeline Kingsbury​

**CALLING ALL PROPERTY OWNERS**

Maddi's family, friends and Law Enforcement have requested ANY and ALL Property/ Landowners in the Winona County, Fillmore County and Houston County who are willing to have their properties searched: Please PRINT the attached blue check mark images and place in a front window or easily visible location from the street to indicate to volunteers you consent to having your property searched. Volunteers are ONLY looking for Madeline and or signs of possible disturbances/ anything out of the ordinary that could potentially lead to locating Maddi. Volunteers will tie a blue ribbon around a mailbox/ post indicating to other Volunteers and Law Enforcement that your property has been searched. Volunteers can PICK UP blue ribbons at TBD locations. If you are a property/ landowner whose land has already been searched either by yourself or volunteers, you can also pick up ribbons at TBD locations locally or you can purchase the blue ribbon directly ( https://a.co/d/b0xVjp5 ) .

Thank you to EVERYONE for the continued support and dedication to BRINGING HER HOME.

 

[youarentsilly]

So the reply text to her sister was only LOL.

This is curious for two reasons.
1) I remember the sister commenting that the text was goofy or silly. I would argue that "LOL" is not that.
2) I remember some discussion about how hard it would be to pretend to be her because of the unique text exchange. Clearly there is nothing unique about a "LOL" text.

IMO

 

[Spider92]

Finding Madeline Kingsbury​

**CALLING ALL PROPERTY OWNERS**

Maddi's family, friends and Law Enforcement have requested ANY and ALL Property/ Landowners in the Winona County, Fillmore County and Houston County who are willing to have their properties searched: Please PRINT the attached blue check mark images and place in a front window or easily visible location from the street to indicate to volunteers you consent to having your property searched. Volunteers are ONLY looking for Madeline and or signs of possible disturbances/ anything out of the ordinary that could potentially lead to locating Maddi. Volunteers will tie a blue ribbon around a mailbox/ post indicating to other Volunteers and Law Enforcement that your property has been searched. Volunteers can PICK UP blue ribbons at TBD locations. If you are a property/ landowner whose land has already been searched either by yourself or volunteers, you can also pick up ribbons at TBD locations locally or you can purchase the blue ribbon directly ( https://a.co/d/b0xVjp5 ) .

Thank you to EVERYONE for the continued support and dedication to BRINGING HER HOME.

This is such a great idea. Other than this thread, I've never heard of this being done.

 

[MinnyPin]

This is such a great idea. Other than this thread, I've never heard of this being done.

Yes, this actually gave me chills, a way for community to come together and a quick way for property owners to help. Find Maddi!

 

[KellyK21]

Yes, this actually gave me chills, a way for community to come together and a quick way for property owners to help. Find Maddi!

Minnesota Nice

 

[rescuemom]

Maybe you came across it somewhere as a comment or speculation but nothing has been verified. The police has released very little info on AF, and that's mainly on his last sighting of Maddi and timings related to that.

Possibly that in itself tells us that LE has him in their cross hairs. What they find on him or about him has to stay quiet to no compromise any case against him, IMO

 

[rescuemom]

Also, little is known about his education or work history. I hope he was contributing to the household and support of the children while they lived together. IF she moved away from him would he be responsible for child support???

 

[bestill]

This is such a great idea. Other than this thread, I've never heard of this being done.

The "Maddi Check" - love this idea! Prayers that it will bring her home!

 

[JennieM]

Also, little is known about his education or work history. I hope he was contributing to the household and support of the children while they lived together. IF she moved away from him would he be responsible for child support???

MOO I don't think this is about him avoiding child support, otherwise with her gone he would always be responsible for child support, if you see what I mean. The children may be at the centre of any possible escalation though IMO.

 

[otto]

MOO I don't think this is about him avoiding child support, otherwise with her gone he would always be responsible for child support, if you see what I mean. The children may be at the centre of any possible escalation though IMO.

Maddi had full custody, so her ex-partner would be responsible for child support in addition to his own cost of living. Without shared custody, Maddi had control over where the children lived and how they were raised. Furthermore, many non-custodial parents who are responsible for child support believe that the money is spent by the parent for personal expenses rather than for the children.

Spousal homicide is an all too common choice by a parent who does not want to split assets, pay child support, or compromise personal freedom due to an ex-partner's life choices.