NH NH/CA - Terry Peder Rasmussen, suspected SK, Allenstown, 1981-2000's - #4

[pixiepixel]

Was anyone able to watch the Oxygen special? Any new info?

 

[forthevictims]

Was anyone able to watch the Oxygen special? Any new info?

Unfortunately they edited out almost all the info I gave them including all the info on the Anaheim area victims-I'm beyond disappointed with these networks. I've done the interviews to get more info out there to try to ID more victims. If any of them approach me again I'll demand a writtem contract that I get to review the edited version before it airs and give approval-otherwise don't waste my time.
I'll try to at least put more of the info out here. I had a forensic psychologist profile him. He sat down for a couple of days with the whole case file. His summary-Rasmussen started killing at a young age, most likely tortured animals to start. ( A girl that went to his high school that was murdered was most likely his first victim.) He would mix the truth amongst the lies and get gratification from you not being able to pick out the bits of truth. (I found numerous examples of this as more layers were peeled back.) He would pick a vicim and dominate them mentally and physically, to the point of literal torture. He was good at seperating the victims from their families and set them up as a voluntary missing-so no missing person reports. (Remember he burned his own children with cigarettes.) When he got bored with that he would kill them.
He also "overlapped" with grooming victims. It looks like he had met Denise while he was still with Marlyse. When he was living in the Bay area with his family he had an affair with a woman-convinced her to move to Colorado and set her up in an apartment, then went back to his family in California and kept calling her. She ran out of money and moved and got a job, he kept calling her, but at that point the influence he had over her had weakened. She got a call one day from him telling her she was going to move-she said no, I have a job. When she went home all her personal belongings were gone. He had convinced her landlord he was helping her move and let him into her apartment. She reported the theft of her belongings to the police and he left back to California and never bothered her again. In talking to her she kept saying " How did he talk me into that?!"
"Why did I agree to do that?!"

 

[forthevictims]

They left out all the info on 1985 Anaheim area. He was working as an electrician and his co-workers saw him with a young woman with children in the car that he said he was dating. He also had a 6 month old girl along with Lisa that he said was also his daughter-a co-worker babysat both of them. In 1986 at the RV park he only had Lisa. With the fact he lost he job due in part because he stole a band saw from a jobsite (dismemberment of victims) and with Lisa's statement when she was recovered that she had siblings, but they died from eating "grass mushrooms" while out camping it's pretty certain that they are also all dead. The woman may have been an apartment manager in the Anaheim area. I had reports of a young single mother with a daughter that was a manager of an apartment that Rasmussen had a connection to, that suddenly over a weekend had moved away, took $500.00 dollars of the apartments money and was never heard from again. The apartment owner's daughter said it was surprising and totally out of character for this manager. No one still alive could remember her name.

 

[GravityHurts]

They left out all the info on 1985 Anaheim area. He was working as an electrician and his co-workers saw him with a young woman with children in the car that he said he was dating. He also had a 6 month old girl along with Lisa that he said was also his daughter-a co-worker babysat both of them. In 1986 at the RV park he only had Lisa. With the fact he lost he job due in part because he stole a band saw from a jobsite (dismemberment of victims) and with Lisa's statement when she was recovered that she had siblings, but they died from eating "grass mushrooms" while out camping it's pretty certain that they are also all dead. The woman may have been an apartment manager in the Anaheim area. I had reports of a young single mother with a daughter that was a manager of an apartment that Rasmussen had a connection to, that suddenly over a weekend had moved away, took $500.00 dollars of the apartments money and was never heard from again. The apartment owner's daughter said it was surprising and totally out of character for this manager. No one still alive could remember her name.

Thank you, Detective, for doing your best to get this info out there. Do you have any recommendations for distributing the information, like mentioning it in a Facebook group about Anaheim focusing on that time period?

 

[forthevictims]

Sharing on any social media site that may have exposure to people that lived in the area would help.

 

[boopboopshoop]

Already being discussed in other threads, but fyi:


Decades-old mystery solved: Girl identified in New Hampshire serial killer case

"the DNA Doe Project compiled a family tree with roughly 25,000 names. Investigators traced the descendants of a couple born in the 1780s to a woman who died in 2005, leaving a daughter named Pepper Reed. They also found a 1976 birth certificate for Rea Rasmussen listing her parents as Pepper Reed and Terry Rasmussen.


Reed has not been seen since the late 1970s in California, authorities said. Authorities on Monday urged the public to come forward with any information about Reed or Denise Beaudin, another likely victim."

DNA Doe Project: Bear Brook Jane Doe 2000

 

[jun]

Thank goodness for the DNA Doe project on getting Rea identified! I thought this day would ever come.

I have a question for other websleuths who have followed this case. Having invested numerous hours in this case, I was in complete shock to hear that Rea's birth has always been on record. I had heard a tip back in July about the possibility of Pepper Reed being the biochilds mother. After doing some research on Pepper, another researcher and I found a birth record for Rea Rasmussen - with the mother's surname as Reed. I decided I would apply for her birth certificate from the state of California. Within 2 weeks, I received a hard copy in the mail. It lists his full name, Terry Peder Rasmussen, as well as his SSN (crossed out). To use the word, 'shock' is an understatement.

For me, that meant Rea could have been identified 8 years ago. Not to think of all the genetic genealogy companies that donated their time, resources, and hours (not to mention websleuths). Not to mention how these resources, for the past 8 years, could have been focused on Pepper and Rea's cases.

So long question short, if law enforcement missed this rather rudimentary step in their investigation, is it possible there are more children of Rasmussen? Will/Did they ever run his name through any databases since the realization of Rea's birth certificate? As law enforcement never addressed this huge mistake, it leaves me wondering. Should I/we (websleuths) be starting from square one for researching Terry Rasmussen?

 

[faithx]

The Bear Brook podcast just released a new episode titled "The Middle Child."

Season One — Bear Brook

www.bearbrookpodcast.com

 

[Nadal]

Great news on the identification. This dude was a terror the only reason i don't think he's one of the most prolific US Serial Killers is he seemed to want to create makeshift families before killing them off which takes time. No doubt he has other victims though.

 

[methodwriter85]

Great news on the identification. This dude was a terror the only reason i don't think he's one of the most prolific US Serial Killers is he seemed to want to create makeshift families before killing them off which takes time. No doubt he has other victims though.

I think he had to have murdered at least one other family in between the time he killed Denise and the time he abandoned Lisa. The "grass mushrooms" comment, as well as the fact that Lisa and Terry were seen with a newborn baby in 1985 that was nowhere to be seen in 1986.

We know that Lisa was born in mid-1981. Memories generally start forming by the age of 3, so we can assume that Lisa's memories begin in 1984. Denise was probably murdered in 1982 or 1983, and Terry did to Lisa what he did to Rea, using her for sympathy and posing as the poor single dad without a wife or mother to care.

I would assume that the next family consisted of a mom and her couple of kids, and the newborn was initially a survivor of that family massacre.

 

[ssarahbg]

Thank goodness for the DNA Doe project on getting Rea identified! I thought this day would ever come.

I have a question for other websleuths who have followed this case. Having invested numerous hours in this case, I was in complete shock to hear that Rea's birth has always been on record. I had heard a tip back in July about the possibility of Pepper Reed being the biochilds mother. After doing some research on Pepper, another researcher and I found a birth record for Rea Rasmussen - with the mother's surname as Reed. I decided I would apply for her birth certificate from the state of California. Within 2 weeks, I received a hard copy in the mail. It lists his full name, Terry Peder Rasmussen, as well as his SSN (crossed out). To use the word, 'shock' is an understatement.

For me, that meant Rea could have been identified 8 years ago. Not to think of all the genetic genealogy companies that donated their time, resources, and hours (not to mention websleuths). Not to mention how these resources, for the past 8 years, could have been focused on Pepper and Rea's cases.

So long question short, if law enforcement missed this rather rudimentary step in their investigation, is it possible there are more children of Rasmussen? Will/Did they ever run his name through any databases since the realization of Rea's birth certificate? As law enforcement never addressed this huge mistake, it leaves me wondering. Should I/we (websleuths) be starting from square one for researching Terry Rasmussen?

I was quite surprised that he was listed all along on the birth certificate. I think it would be worth doing a search under all of his known aliases to see if he is listed as the father anywhere else.

In regards to Pepper, are there any details about Pepper released yet? Height/weight? Identifiers?

 

[rylie113]

I was quite surprised that he was listed all along on the birth certificate. I think it would be worth doing a search under all of his known aliases to see if he is listed as the father anywhere else.

In regards to Pepper, are there any details about Pepper released yet? Height/weight? Identifiers?

From what I could find on Ancestry, she was born September 6 1952, in North Carolina to Clyde and Barbara Reed before moving to Texas.

She has dark hair and dark eyes, but I'm unsure about height/weight. Attached are a few pictures of her (if they haven't been added to this thread already). I believed the colour photo is the most recent.

 

[ssarahbg]

From what I could find on Ancestry, she was born September 6 1952, in North Carolina to Clyde and Barbara Reed before moving to Texas.

She has dark hair and dark eyes, but I'm unsure about height/weight. Attached are a few pictures of her (if they haven't been added to this thread already). I believed the colour photo is the most recent.

View attachment 614043View attachment 614044View attachment 614045

They released these Sunday in the press release but no other details. I am just wondering when they will release her missing persons profile with identifiers.

 

[Ingrid74]

IMO, I believe I have found another possible child of Rasmussen’s, born 9 Oct 1982 in Michigan. I have no reason to believe they are deceased. Guardianship was petitioned, in 1986, by two people with same last name. Notice of Hearing was published for Terry Rasmussen. I am assuming that since the hearing took place in probate court and guardianship was petitioned for female and male, that mother may have been “unavailable”. I suspect that the mother may have been the sister as her obituary, in 1896, mentioned a daughter of the same name and aligns with the petition year. JMO.

Edited to correct Dates

 

[Warwick1991]

IMO, I believe I have found another possible child of Rasmussen’s, born 9 Oct 1982 in Michigan. I have no reason to believe they are deceased. Guardianship was petitioned, in 1896,by two people with same last name. Notice of Hearing was published for Terry Rasmussen. I am assuming that since the hearing took place in probate court and guardianship was petitioned for female and male, that mother may have been “unavailable”. I suspect that the mother may have been the sister as her obituary, in 1896, mentioned a daughter of the same name and aligns with the petition year. JMO.

1986? Vs 1896?

 

[Ingrid74]

1986? Vs 1896?

Gosh, thank you. I’ve corrected dates

 

[Ingrid74]

They released these Sunday in the press release but no other details. I am just wondering when they will release her missing persons profile with identifiers.

In addition, I believe Pepper’s mother’s maiden name was Purvis.

For those with a Newspapers.com subscription :
TUESDAY, AUGUST 19, 1975, THE SELMA TIMES-JOURNAL

Obituary for Barney Barry Purvis, Barbara’s father, who passed on Monday, August 18, 1975.

 

[Ingrid74]

I was quite surprised that he was listed all along on the birth certificate. I think it would be worth doing a search under all of his known aliases to see if he is listed as the father anywhere else.

In regards to Pepper, are there any details about Pepper released yet? Height/weight? Identifiers?

I believe Pepper has her own thread now:
CA - Pepper Reed, 24, California, 1976, Mother of Rea Rasmussen and Girlfriend of SK Terry Rasmussen

but see below for NamUs details
NamUs #MP150118

…….
Missing Age: 23 Years
Current Age: 73 Years
Legal First Name: Pepper
Middle Name--
Legal Last Name: Reed
Chosen Name/Nickname/Alias--
Biological Sex: Female
Height: 5' 2" - 5' 4" (62 - 64 Inches)
Weight: 115 - 130 lbs
……
Hair Color: Brown
Head Hair Description--
Body Hair Description--
Facial Hair Description--
Left Eye Color: Brown
Right Eye Color: Brown
……

 

[Stephen2016]

From what I could find on Ancestry, she was born September 6 1952, in North Carolina to Clyde and Barbara Reed before moving to Texas.

She has dark hair and dark eyes, but I'm unsure about height/weight. Attached are a few pictures of her (if they haven't been added to this thread already). I believed the colour photo is the most recent.

View attachment 614043View attachment 614044View attachment 614045

Does anyone know if these are all school pictures. I think she was 24 or so when Rae was born.

 

[Ingrid74]

IMO, I believe I have found another possible child of Rasmussen’s, born 9 Oct 1982 in Michigan. I have no reason to believe they are deceased. Guardianship was petitioned, in 1986, by two people with same last name. Notice of Hearing was published for Terry Rasmussen. I am assuming that since the hearing took place in probate court and guardianship was petitioned for female and male, that mother may have been “unavailable”. I suspect that the mother may have been the sister as her obituary, in 1896, mentioned a daughter of the same name and aligns with the petition year. JMO.

Edited to correct Dates

Confirmed it was the sisters child via birth announcement. The baby has her unmarried name. I need to do some digging to confirm it is the same Terry Rasmussen.