Norway Norway - Oslo - WhtFem 20-30 - Fake Name - Shot in Hotel Room - 3 June 1995 #2

[maestro]

I would like to retract my previous statement about the Isdal Woman being a Mossad agent. This case is so difficult to figure out what happened to Isdalen woman and who she is.

If this is true:

In June 2023, the Swiss newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung (New Journal of Zürich) published a story about an insurance fact checker who became intrigued by the mystery of the Isdal woman. According to the unnamed fact checker's research, the unidentified woman was linked to the Swiss banker François Genoud. He was a supporter of Hitler and his Nazi ideology. He was also friends with Wadi Haddad, a Palestinian terrorist leader. Inquiries have placed the Isdal woman in Paris at the same time as Genoud and Haddad. This raises the question—was the Isdal woman a Palestinian agent and did the Israeli foreign intelligence service Mossad have anything to do with her death?

from this website: Isdalen Woman connection to Swiss banker

I never heard of Palestinian spy from West Germany. She could be either Mossad or Palestinian spy. I knew that she was somehow linked to Israel and Palestine conflict.

This would make sense why she looked Mediterranean if she was Palestinian spy. Her facial features also didn't look like someone from Israel but still someone/or her parents from Middle East region.

I don't think the Mossad killed the Isdalen woman. A young man with his father saw a woman who looked like the Isdalen woman walk up the mountain with two men which I think were Norwegian agents.

Prior to her death, the Isdalen woman was caught taking pictures of testing sites of NATO/Norwegian weapons by two Norwegian Fisher men from Bergen. They reported her to Norwegian police.

I believe that Norwegian police/spy agency abducted her from the train station where she was about to leave Bergen. Her luggage was found at the train station.

Then two Norwegian agents told her to walk with them up the hill. Forced her to eat 50 pills and after that burned her alive. She was alive when she was burned because of the fencing position which are natural reflex of your body when something bad is happening to you.

Compared to Jennifer Fergate case, Norwegian agencies & Government did little to no help with solving the Isdalen woman case.



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Yeah I like that angle, you think the baggage that turned up was staged then?

 

[maestro]

I would like to retract my previous statement about the Isdal Woman being a Mossad agent. This case is so difficult to figure out what happened to Isdalen woman and who she is.

If this is true:

In June 2023, the Swiss newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung (New Journal of Zürich) published a story about an insurance fact checker who became intrigued by the mystery of the Isdal woman. According to the unnamed fact checker's research, the unidentified woman was linked to the Swiss banker François Genoud. He was a supporter of Hitler and his Nazi ideology. He was also friends with Wadi Haddad, a Palestinian terrorist leader. Inquiries have placed the Isdal woman in Paris at the same time as Genoud and Haddad. This raises the question—was the Isdal woman a Palestinian agent and did the Israeli foreign intelligence service Mossad have anything to do with her death?

from this website: Isdalen Woman connection to Swiss banker

I never heard of Palestinian spy from West Germany. She could be either Mossad or Palestinian spy. I knew that she was somehow linked to Israel and Palestine conflict.

This would make sense why she looked Mediterranean if she was Palestinian spy. Her facial features also didn't look like someone from Israel but still someone/or her parents from Middle East region.

I don't think the Mossad killed the Isdalen woman. A young man with his father saw a woman who looked like the Isdalen woman walk up the mountain with two men which I think were Norwegian agents.

Prior to her death, the Isdalen woman was caught taking pictures of testing sites of NATO/Norwegian weapons by two Norwegian Fisher men from Bergen. They reported her to Norwegian police.

I believe that Norwegian police/spy agency abducted her from the train station where she was about to leave Bergen. Her luggage was found at the train station.

Then two Norwegian agents told her to walk with them up the hill. Forced her to eat 50 pills and after that burned her alive. She was alive when she was burned because of the fencing position which are natural reflex of your body when something bad is happening to you.

Compared to Jennifer Fergate case, Norwegian agencies & Government did little to no help with solving the Isdalen woman case.



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I’m more inclined to think she was there for the oil if you look at her movements Bergen, stravanger, trondheim, I’m going kgb

 

[CrossNokind]

Yeah I like that angle, you think the baggage that turned up was staged then?

It wasn't stage in my opinion. I think Norwegian agents just told to follow them and might have not seeing the baggage she was carrying with her. The Norwegian police found her baggage but I read that they were told not to look deep into this case by Government.

I really think that the Fisher men alerted to Bergen Police of strange woman taking pictures of rockets being shot. They apparently saw her not far from their boat. She was seen twice ( or more) by those Fisher men.

I think when the Isdalen woman was trying to leave Bergen via train station with Baggage. The ticket agent might have alerted the Police if she had a notice out there for her arrest.

 

[CrossNokind]

I’m more inclined to think she was there for the oil if you look at her movements Bergen, stravanger, trondheim, I’m going kgb

this Isdalen case could related to a lot of things/agencies. There are little to no information. I like your angle as well. It makes sense.

 

[maestro]

this Isdalen case could related to a lot of things/agencies. There are little to no information. I like your angle as well. It makes sense.

Yeah I know it coincides with the penguin missile, but Norway always a very neutral country. Strange one. as the one later seems a more political placing

 

[Marantz4250b]

Someone gifted me a WS Guardianship - many thanks to whoever it was

 

[RookieWebsleuth2024]

Can you provide a link to a report stating this?

I'm not aware of any credible report mentioning so much blood and it being "everywhere".

I'm so sorry for the delay in answering. So if you look at the photo of her holding the gun, you can see blood spilled on her buttons, the stain is very obvious. I don't know if I may post it here, but it is easy to find. Also, there is mention in the documentary (Unsolved Mysteries) that there was blood spatter that reached the ceiling. In the short Norwegian documentary, available on YouTube, there is an interview with the male receptionist who said the police showed him a photograph of the victim, and he could see the wall behind her which was full of blood, as he said. Specifically, he said "the wall behind her was horrific" and "she was lying in a pool of blood." Check out this documentary. It is in Norwegian, but it has good subtitles:

 

[GracefulD1an]

Has anyone thought of “Jennifer” having a connection to Britain? According to a video covering her watch it is mentioned as being the preferred watch of, among other special operation groups, UK special operations. And the UK just so happens to have a good alliance with Norway. I’m thinking political attaché possibly. Maybe she had a significant other who served in the special operations who gifted her that watch.

I’m thinking this scenario: “Jennifer” is born in East Germany but her family somehow manages to flee to Britain when she is a teen, getting refugee status. She grows up and gets a job connected to a politician in the UK, perhaps working for the British ambassador to Norway. She ends up having an affair with a colleague (“Mr. Fergate”), someone who served in the special operations unit. She keeps on waiting for him to propose but he keeps brushing it off, saying wait until he gets a promotion. Eventually she misses her period. She suspects she’s pregnant and decides to tell her affair partner to give the potential child stability. He doesn’t react the way she expected. She then tells him she’s going to tell their boss the truth of their affair, possibly to pressure him to marry her and avoid a scandal. He decides in that moment he needs to get rid of her so he creates this elaborate plan of killing her in a hotel that he hopes will never lead back to him and his family.

Problems that lie with this scenario is lack of details about the autopsy report, the wide number of people who worked as attachés who would own an Aqualand watch, how deep this control goes and a seeming lack of prenatal vitamins in her possessions. Also why claim she was Belgian? Was it her affair partner’s idea?

 

[partybagel]

I've been working on a theory about Jennifer Fairgate recently. I was thinking that maybe she would have been reported missing in the years leading up to her death. My reasoning for this is that she may have disappeared when she went off the grid, possibly for some type of spy or undercover work or possibly to leave her previous life behind. She could have lived undercover for several years, traveling around before her death in 1995. It has been widely assumed that she was likely German. With this information I went through InterPol and found a woman by the name of Ines Heider who disappeared from Germany in 1990 at the age of 26. She strongly resembles Ms. Fairgate and is from the same country of origin. Although there is some discrepancy in height, heights have been inaccurate for other individuals in the past. Their eye color, face shape and age all align nicely and if she were to disappear off the grid for several years because of whatever work she was involved in this would explain the 5 year age gap. Attached is a comparison of the 2 women with Ms. Fairgate on the left and Ms. Heider on the right. Let me know what you all think!! Thank you for giving this Doe and Ms. Heider a moment of your time.

 

[Beekarina]

I wonder if Imelda Keenan was ever considered?

Brown hair, blue eyes, 5ft 3. Born in 1971, disappeared in 1994.

She was from Ireland, no idea if she knew any other languages.

https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/software/mp-main.html?id=1257dfirl

 

[GracefulD1an]

Mhm…”Jennifer’s” hair is depicted as ebony/raven black, Imelda has ash brown hair. For her to be “Jennifer” she would need to dye her hair and eyebrows black and have it cut short. Also being from Ireland I would think she would speak with an Irish lilt depending on which part of Ireland she was from, not with a noticeable German accent. So it really depends on various factors.