OH - Pike Co, 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #71

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When is Angela Wagner supposed to testify against her son George Wagner iv?
 
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I don't remember hearing that there were any dogs at Dana's house. Does anyone remember if there were or not?
Going on memory here, Lenny said she owned a part wolf breed.

JMO though.
 
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Ok. BCI searched Jake's truck and found Angie's shoe receipt in a box of important papers. On the Wagner's way back from AK they were stopped in Montana near the Canadian border. The Wagner's did not know that BCI found the shoe receipt.

Angie didn't tell anyone in Montana about the shoes. When BCI found the receipt they checked every Walmart in a 50 mile radius and found photos of her buying the shoes in the Waverly Ohio Walmart.

They decided to do a surprise interview on this to, in my opinion, trap the Wagners. The Wagner's had no idea what was going on. Next thing they know they are separated and interviewed and then BCI confiscated Angie's laptop which showed all these screenshots on it where she was hacking in to victim's Facebook accounts. This is where Hanna said "they would have to kill me first." 4 months later they killed her.

They came back to Ohio because they were running out of money according to a Wagner relative from a podcast. They moved into the house that Angie inherited from her dad.

They did not want to come back, they took out fraudulent loans to try to buy property in Missouri. That fell through.

AK wouldn't save them anyway, BCI went up there tracking them down. They knew they were suspects when BCI searched their property and when DeWine put out the laser focus in the MSM.

When I was listening to the trial yesterday I heard how Angie threw the shoes away rather than simply return them. My information comes from George's Bond Hearing of which I linked above. Alot of information to cover so if I missed something just ask. I will try to answer if possible. When Angie saw Hanna say "they would have to kill me first" it was Angie who showed it to Jake.

I also learned from listing to the trial that the reason Angie was spying on Facebook messenger was to dig up dirt on Hanna and Tabitha because she wanted custody. She hacked Hannah's Facebook and George's Ex MIL's Facebook, possibly others as well.

With the shoe receipt she had ample opportunity to get her money back on the shoes. I believe she threw out the shoes because her son's wore them at the murder scenes. None of the murder kit items can be accounted for either. All missing except what they hid at FWF.

George will go down for murder I believe. He fits Ohio's definition of being involved in all 4 parts the prosecutor said and conspiracy amongst many other things. A whole list of things in my opinion.
Wait… WHAT?! They actually burned the shoes but kept the receipt?

Talk about a very dumb and costly mistake.
 
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Mr. MANLEY was a loyal family man who would have protected his family at all costs. He called it early on and no one listened. As he said in the article, para, someone knew those dogs. I only wish he were here today watching the beginning of the end of the W4 clan and the terror they all brought upon his family.
 
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I got alot of decent screenshots from the exhibits today.
I’ve been trying to figure out how to explain it & think I’ve got it…

The “outside to inside & no inside to outside” discussion was a discussion about bullets piercing exterior walls.

Regarding the front doors, I know for sure he said the holes were in storm door but not the “hard door” because he & the attorney specifically pointed that out. He believes the “hard door” was standing open at the time of shooting.

Side note: my impression of the wood splinter imbedded in CR was from the front door jamb. Could be wrong. I’m going to have to quit yapping & rewatch it. I’ll try to get you some time stamps.
You are 100% correct on the door jamb
 
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I wish LM were here too, but, at least GM, is still alive to see the trials. LM suggested custody, as a possibility, but there were two custody issues going on, he seemed a bit surprised when they named the Ws, especially JW.

I disagree with when the Ws said they started planning. It's something they've all apparently remained consistent in, though, as a part of their story.

Relative of Rhoden victim accused of destroying GPS appears in court
"That boy used to come to my house for all of the holidays and he won't bring the baby up to get a present," Manley said when asked about Wagner"
 
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