Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022

[margarita25]

Live updates: Russia attacks Ukraine

Military Times
Live Twitter updates from Russia’s massive Ukraine invasion

“As Russian President Vladimir Putin tonight announced a special “special military operation” and reportedly launched a major attack on neighboring Ukraine, President Joe Biden responded that the Russian government would be held accountable for “catastrophic loss of life and human suffering.”
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[CoverMeCagney]

Thanks for starting a thread, Mags. It’s just dreadful

Here’s a quick 101 on why this is all happening:

Why is Russia invading Ukraine and what does Putin want?

 

[SouthAussie]

Horrifying.

I saw a Ukrainian female doctor on an Aussie current affairs show tonight (on Zoom). She is a reservist in Ukraine, and is about to leave her children and go to fight. She said they have been training every weekend.

The presenter asked her who was going to take care of her children. She said she hoped her eldest son could, but he may have to go and fight also.

The presenter asked her how long they would fight against the superior power of Putin. She said "till the end".

 

[Sarahlou]

Sickening. I feel so bad for the Ukrainian people. Putin is a monster.

 

[margarita25]

Sickening. I feel so bad for the Ukrainian people. Putin is a monster.

Monster is right.

We’ll see what Day 1 of the casualties and other damage reveals.

 

[margarita25]

Well, we’re going to be here a while. Plant a seat. Sending good vibes all round.

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Eta:

“Russian troops launched their anticipated attack on Ukraine on Thursday, as President Vladimir Putin cast aside international condemnation and sanctions, warning other countries that any attempt to interfere would lead to “consequences you have never seen.”” / source

 

[Fika]

Good to see the thread about it here.
It’s truly awful what is happening in Ukraine right now. It was pending for a while but I hoped that Putin will back off.
I have a few friends from Ukraine who are living and working here( Sweden) and are terrified for their families back home.
Putin has to be brought to justice for war crimes he has done, enough is enough. As of now I hope that people in Ukraine will stay strong.

 

[Fika]

Well, we’re going to be here a while. Plant a seat. Sending good vibes all round.

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Eta:

“Russian troops launched their anticipated attack on Ukraine on Thursday, as President Vladimir Putin cast aside international condemnation and sanctions, warning other countries that any attempt to interfere would lead to “consequences you have never seen.”” / source

The outcome of this is so uncertain. Yes we will stay here for a while unfortunately.

 

[AliceInPain]

sbm

“Russian troops launched their anticipated attack on Ukraine on Thursday, as President Vladimir Putin cast aside international condemnation and sanctions, warning other countries that any attempt to interfere would lead to “consequences you have never seen.”

This is so scary. He's threatening to drop nuclear bombs, basically.

 

[margarita25]

Potential future/continued cyber attacks are a big part of this equation too, imo.

 

[Bit of hope]

A dark day for Europe, a black day for Ukraine. Also a very dangerous situation for the peace in general, that might escalate further. Where is this criminal going to stop. He doesn't seem very impressed by all harsh words from European governments and the consequences this is going to have also for the Russian people.

 

[AliceInPain]

Potential future/continued cyber attacks are a big part of this equation too, imo.

Probably. At least they don't kill people.

 

[margarita25]

A dark day for Europe, a black day for Ukraine. Also a very dangerous situation for the peace in general, that might escalate further. Where is this criminal going to stop. He doesn't seem very impressed by all harsh words from European governments and the consequences this is going to have also for the Russian people.

Exactly

 

[margarita25]

Jmo Sadly, these folks (can/do/may/ will /continue to cyberattack medical facilities, power grids, government websites...the list goes on.

Sad P chose to kill people with direct military attacks, the world gave him every chance at peace and diplomacy imo, how long everyone’s been say8g the same thing, yet he chose to attack and kill people and start a war - there’s no going back from that.

 

[Bit of hope]

North Atlantic Treaty, Washington, 04-04-1949
Bwb-id:
BWBV0005760

Official title:
North Atlantic Treaty

Quote title:
North Atlantic Treaty, Washington, 04-04-1949

Also known as:
NATO Treaty

Type of arrangement:
Agreement

First responsible ministry:
Foreign Affairs

Validity date:
February 24, 2022

Starting date:
February 18, 1952

The Parties to this Treaty reaffirm their faith in the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations and their desire to live in peace with all peoples and all governments.
They are determined to safeguard the freedom, common heritage and civilisation of their peoples, founded on the principles of democracy, individual liberty and the rule of law.
They seek to promote stability and well-being in the North Atlantic area.
They are resolved to unite their efforts for collective defence and for the preservation of peace and security.
They therefore agree to this North Atlantic Treaty:
Article 4
The Parties will consult together whenever, in the opinion of any of them, the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the Parties is threatened.

Article 5
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all; and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.

Art. 5 Artikel 5 Noord-Atlantisch Verdrag, Washington, 04-04-1949 :: Maxius.nl voorheen Lexius.nl

Ukraine is not a member, so things will have to be worked out differently.

 

[margarita25]

A dark day for Europe, a black day for Ukraine. Also a very dangerous situation for the peace in general, that might escalate further. Where is this criminal going to stop. He doesn't seem very impressed by all harsh words from European governments and the consequences this is going to have also for the Russian people.

Dark day for the world.

 

[PingTheRouter]

just horrible seeing the poor country in an impossible situation

and i just hate Russia and its whole " don't join NATO and we'll stop attacking" its just straight from the bullying hand book

why does another country get to decide anything for its neighbor its just arrogance

 

[margarita25]

Thanks for starting a thread, Mags. It’s just dreadful

Here’s a quick 101 on why this is all happening:

Why is Russia invading Ukraine and what does Putin want?

Bookmarking, thanks Cags.

A dark day for Europe, a black day for Ukraine. Also a very dangerous situation for the peace in general, that might escalate further. Where is this criminal going to stop. He doesn't seem very impressed by all harsh words from European governments and the consequences this is going to have also for the Russian people.

Exactly, where is the end point. It feels like we’ve passed a point of no return.

 

[Amonet]

Potential future/continued cyber attacks are a big part of this equation too, imo.

A big question for us in Europe, even us on the outskirts in the UK, is about the gas flow. It would punish Europe as much as Russia if the gas flows were cut or totally stopped.

PS I'm not trying to ignore the human horrors of this, just saying about the damage that Putin can cause on a wide scale.

 

[margarita25]

A big question for us in Europe, even us on the outskirts in the UK, is about the gas flow. It would punish Europe as much as Russia if the gas flows were cut or totally stopped.

PS I'm not trying to ignore the human horrors of this, just saying about the damage that Putin can cause on a wide scale.

Thankfully Japan has been poised/ready to help.

quick reference:
Japan to divert LNG to Europe amid Russia-Ukraine tension

Japan offers gas to Europe over Ukraine fears

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Uk...of-LNG-reserves-to-Europe-amid-Ukraine-crisis