Three children and two teenagers have been arrested over the murder of an 80-year-old man. Leicestershire, UK.

[Lucy6226]

When you compare these sentences with the two youths who murdered Brianna Ghey (they got life imprisonment 20 years min and 22 years min) These sentences are an absolute joke.

 

[Kasmeer]

I realise the convictions were only for manslaughter, not murder (I disagree personally but the jury reached their verdict on the information they were given), and rehabilitation must certainly be a consideration for such young offenders... but these sentences really sound far too low, the girl should at least have supervision until adulthood in my opinion, and I do hope the boy won't get out after only 50% or less of his already short sentence, if he serves it all then it might be ok.

I suppose the judge has to stay within the guidelines, and maybe couldn't do much more, but I feel very sorry for the victim's family, they can't possibly feel that justice has been served with this.

 

[Skigh]

Family's fury at sentence for boy, 15, who killed man, 80

A 15-year-old boy was ordered to serve just seven years behind bars and a 13-year-old girl was spared being jailed over the manslaughter of Bhim Kohli.

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The family of an 80-year-old dog walker who was beaten to death have reacted with fury over his teen killers' sentencing.

His daughter, Susan, stood on the steps outside Leicester Crown Court following the hearing where she spoke of her disappointment about the length of the sentence.

'I feel angry and disappointed that the sentence... does not, I believe, reflect the severity of the crime they committed,' she said.


A furious Ms Kohli said in an emotional statement after the hearing that her father's death had left a hole in the family.

'A hole that can never be filled because of the actions of two teenagers,' she said.

'I believe on that day the two teenagers made a choice; the boy chose to attack my dad and the girl chose to film him being attacked. They knew what they were doing.'

Ms Kohli added: 'They have taken a life. When they are released they still have their full lives ahead of them. They can rebuild their lives. We can't.'

She added that she felt that 'more could have been done to prevent my dad getting killed'.

'If police were able to have more visible patrols in the area following the previous reports of antisocial behaviour, then dad could still be alive today,' she said.

'We don't want any other family to endure the pain and heartbreak that we have of losing someone this way.'

 

[MollyHarps]

I disagree completely with the verdict

 

[Skigh]

I disagree completely with the verdict

It is an utter disgrace .

 

[Cartie]

Must be a Leicester crown court thing. Without derailing the thread with all the details I've had personal experience there, the sentence given (he has an extensive criminal background) was shocking.

Really feel for this man's family, hope they win the appeal.

Also feel for the police, as per my experience I know they get frustrated at doing their job only for the convicted to be back out on the streets in no time.

 

[Skigh]

Teen killers' parents should face court, says victim's daughter

Bhim Kohli, 80, was out walking his dog just yards from his home when he was set upon by a balaclava-wearing boy, 15, while a 13-year-old girl filmed the assault.

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The parents have a part to play in it because from what we heard in court, (the children) were out at crazy times. They were on the phones at gone midnight. These are children of the age of 12 and 14 (at the time of the killing),' she said.

'How can a 12-year-old and a 14-year-old do something like this to an old-age pensioner? Do they not think what if this happened to their parents, their grandparents?

'(It's) adults taking responsibility. Hold the parents accountable. Then bring them to court as well.'

During the harrowing trial at Leicester Crown Court, Mr Justice Turner told the pair - referred to only as D1 and D2 due to their ages - that the attack was 'cowardly' and 'wicked.'

Turning to the boy, he said: 'I am sure, D1, from the start you wanted to confront Mr Kohli, mainly because you were showing off to D2 — you knew she was watching and was likely to take films on her mobile phone.'

'I am sure you knocked Mr Kohli to the ground and hit him with your sliders. I am sure Mr Kohli did nothing at all to deserve what you did. What you did was wicked.

'You made a cowardly and violent attack on an elderly man.'

It was also revealed that Mr Kohli told his daughter he had been called a 'P***' during the attack.

The judge acknowledged this but added that mobile phone evidence didn't show the teens held 'general racist views,' calling it instead 'a lazy but very hurtful insult.'

 

[Skigh]

Boy, 15, who killed elderly dog walker may get longer behind bars

Bhim Kohli called out for help when he was attacked in Franklin Park, Braunstone Town, near Leicester, on September 1 last year.

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[Dotta]

I'm speechless by the original verdict

"Unduly lenient sentence"
seems to me UNDERSTATEMENT of the year.

I wouldn't want to cross paths with these criminals.
So scary that they will soon roam the streets again.

JMO

 

[LadyL]

You're possibly correct when it comes to London, however I live in Scotland and i can't say that I've ever heard a young person use that term.

we use it here in Canada and the U.S. uses it too but to refer to actual federal police

 

[LadyL]

I disagree completely with the verdict

the sentences are a joke

were they charged with murder with manslaughter as a sentencing option or were they only charged with manslaughter?

 

[LadyL]

Teen killers' parents should face court, says victim's daughter

Bhim Kohli, 80, was out walking his dog just yards from his home when he was set upon by a balaclava-wearing boy, 15, while a 13-year-old girl filmed the assault.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The parents have a part to play in it because from what we heard in court, (the children) were out at crazy times. They were on the phones at gone midnight. These are children of the age of 12 and 14 (at the time of the killing),' she said.

'How can a 12-year-old and a 14-year-old do something like this to an old-age pensioner? Do they not think what if this happened to their parents, their grandparents?

'(It's) adults taking responsibility. Hold the parents accountable. Then bring them to court as well.'

During the harrowing trial at Leicester Crown Court, Mr Justice Turner told the pair - referred to only as D1 and D2 due to their ages - that the attack was 'cowardly' and 'wicked.'

Turning to the boy, he said: 'I am sure, D1, from the start you wanted to confront Mr Kohli, mainly because you were showing off to D2 — you knew she was watching and was likely to take films on her mobile phone.'

'I am sure you knocked Mr Kohli to the ground and hit him with your sliders. I am sure Mr Kohli did nothing at all to deserve what you did. What you did was wicked.

'You made a cowardly and violent attack on an elderly man.'

It was also revealed that Mr Kohli told his daughter he had been called a 'P***' during the attack.

The judge acknowledged this but added that mobile phone evidence didn't show the teens held 'general racist views,' calling it instead 'a lazy but very hurtful insult.'

[bbm]

what is 'sliders'? I googled but none of the results seemed to fit

TIA

 

[Megnut]

[bbm]

what is 'sliders'? I googled but none of the results seemed to fit

TIA

Shoes, like flip flips but heavier soled.

JMO

 

[Sarahlou]

the sentences are a joke

were they charged with murder with manslaughter as a sentencing option or were they only charged with manslaughter?

The boy was charged with murder.

 

[Luwin]

Bhim Kohli death: Police 'sat on information' before dog walker, 80, fatally attacked

Officers had been investigating an attack on another Asian man, two weeks before Bhim Kohli died.

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[Luwin]

DBM - double post

 

[Skigh]

Teenage killer of pensioner Bhim Kohli will NOT have sentence reduced

The teenage killer of 80-year-old dog walker Bhim Kohli, who was savagely beaten to death, will not have his sentence for manslaughter changed, the Court of Appeal has ruled.

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