WA WA - Seattle, WhtFem 30-50, 159UFWA, UP12916, alias 'Mary Anderson', copper IUD, breast surgery scars, 11 October 1996

[Mandala]

Interesting....

A woman named Mary disappeared in September, 1996, in Washington State.

The sizes of the women are drastically different and Mary Hunter's story makes it highly unlikely they are the same person.

Mary Frances Hunter – The Charley Project

Just food for thought, bumping the thread, and likely eliminating a person that could be

This Mary only had scars around the breast area and no birthmarks documented. I’m clutching at straws with hope for solving this case, so I wish it was a match

 

[cyberpanda]

Having Middle Eastern/Iranian ancestry doesn't automatically make someone an immigrant; she could easily be first- or second-generation. My DNA says I'm 50% English, but I don't have any immediate family from England.

 

[Susikatze]

Having Middle Eastern/Iranian ancestry doesn't automatically make someone an immigrant; she could easily be first- or second-generation. My DNA says I'm 50% English, but I don't have any immediate family from England.

That is true, however there were virtually no Iranian immigrants to the US before the Iranian Revolution. So it is likely she was an immigrant. Given her age, she may have migrated as a young woman with a husband, which explains why she had no noticeable accent. That would also explain why noone was looking for her in the US. If most of her relatives stayed in Iran and she had no children and was estranged from her (ex) husband.
A second generation immigrant usually has local family.

jmoo

 

[Rikissa]

That is true, however there were virtually no Iranian immigrants to the US before the Iranian Revolution. So it is likely she was an immigrant. Given her age, she may have migrated as a young woman with a husband, which explains why she had no noticeable accent. That would also explain why noone was looking for her in the US. If most of her relatives stayed in Iran and she had no children and was estranged from her (ex) husband.
A second generation immigrant usually has local family.

jmoo

There are Iranian/Persian related ethnic groups in what was the Soviet Union, in what now are independent countries near Iran. There is a small possibility that she might have come to the US as being 'Russian'.

 

[Susikatze]

There are Iranian/Persian related ethnic groups in what was the Soviet Union, in what now are independent countries near Iran. There is a small possibility that she might have come to the US as being 'Russian'.

a bit of a long stretch, the soviet union was fairly closed off and one couldnt easily escape to the West, let alone the US. Not likely in my opinion

 

[Rikissa]

a bit of a long stretch, the soviet union was fairly closed off and one couldnt easily escape to the West, let alone the US. Not likely in my opinion

Not really true, that was depending on what group a person belonged to, whether they were allowed to leave or not. The Jackson-Vanik amendment of 1974, between the US and Russia, is mostly associated with Soviet Jews, but it also included various ethnic and religious minorities, including Muslims, Christians, people who the Soviet Union saw as unwanted in their society.

Jackson–Vanik amendment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

While only about 3,000 Jews left legally between 1960 and 1970, roughly 347,100 people received visas to leave the USSR between 1971 and 1980

 

[MarziPanda]

Not sure if she's been mentioned already, but I came across Behdokht Behnia Pyke looking at another thread, she went missing in 1981 and was originally from Iran:

Behdokht Behnia Pyke – The Charley Project

She's a poor match though. Too short (5'1-5'4 vs Mary's 5'8) and very light (110lbs to Mary's 240lbs). People can gain weight over years but she wouldn't have gotten taller! (Although height estimates have been wildly off before). They also don't look that similar imo, except maybe in the paler picture of her. But if you added 130lbs and 15 years to her... maybe? Behdokht would have been 44 in 1996. I've read elsewhere that she has DNA on file in CODIS though so probably already automatically excluded already. From the limited information I've found online, nobody is exactly sure of her missing date and it seems to me that a person close to her was probably responsible for her disappearance, but she could also have simply left.

None of her profiles (Namus, Charley) that I can find online mention that she's from Iran. I guess that's a reminder that there may be people who are in Namus who are Persian but are not reported as such, and are listed as white.

 

[Rikissa]

None of her profiles (Namus, Charley) that I can find online mention that she's from Iran. I guess that's a reminder that there may be people who are in Namus who are Persian but are not reported as such, and are listed as white.

If you think that "white" only mean "Caucasian", that's not true, as this is how 'white' in the U.S. Census is defined:

• U.S. Census/Technical Definition: The U.S. Census Bureau defines "White" as anyone having origins in Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa, which includes Iranians.

 

[Carovb5]

What about Carole Dianne Roy?
- Missing the same day our Doe was found.
- Less weight (175), but weight is often wrong (old numbers/people lie about their weight)
- missing from Beckwith Township - Canada
- brown hair brown eyes
- 43 years old
- used the aliases of Carole Lalonde and Dianne Davis.

The websleuths page mentions : partial dental plate

Carole Dianne Roy was reported missing to the OPP on May 23, 2012. Through OPP investigation it was established that the last confirmed sighting for Roy was on Oct. 11, 1996.

Roy, Carole Dianne Carolle - Canadian Crime-opedia

coldcase.lailafarrell.com

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CANADA Thread 'Canada - Carole Roy, 43, Beckwith Township, Ont, 11 Oct 1996'

Oct 17, 2017

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/50-000-reward-for-information-on-missing-woman-1.4359091

Ontario Provincial Police are offering a $50,000 reward to anyone with information about the disappearance of a woman who was last seen in 1996.

Carole Dianne Roy was officially reported missing to OPP in 2012, 16 years after she was last seen. She lived in Quebec until the early 1990s before moving to the Ottawa area.

Roy is described as white with short grey-brown hair, approximately...

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[MarziPanda]

If you think that "white" only mean "Caucasian", that's not true, as this is how 'white' in the U.S. Census is defined:

I know, I just thought it was worth noting

 

[MarziPanda]

What about Carole Dianne Roy?
- Missing the same day our Doe was found.
- Less weight (175), but weight is often wrong (old numbers/people lie about their weight)
- missing from Beckwith Township - Canada
- brown hair brown eyes
- 43 years old
- used the aliases of Carole Lalonde and Dianne Davis.

The websleuths page mentions : partial dental plate

Carole Dianne Roy was reported missing to the OPP on May 23, 2012. Through OPP investigation it was established that the last confirmed sighting for Roy was on Oct. 11, 1996.

Roy, Carole Dianne Carolle - Canadian Crime-opedia

coldcase.lailafarrell.com

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CANADA Thread 'Canada - Carole Roy, 43, Beckwith Township, Ont, 11 Oct 1996'

Oct 17, 2017

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/50-000-reward-for-information-on-missing-woman-1.4359091

Ontario Provincial Police are offering a $50,000 reward to anyone with information about the disappearance of a woman who was last seen in 1996.

Carole Dianne Roy was officially reported missing to OPP in 2012, 16 years after she was last seen. She lived in Quebec until the early 1990s before moving to the Ottawa area.

Roy is described as white with short grey-brown hair, approximately...

• dotr
• Replies: 11
• Forum: 1990's Missing

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Can't be Carole unfortunately unless she was of Persian ancestry, which doesn't seem to be the case

 

[Tired Professor]

What about Carole Dianne Roy?
- Missing the same day our Doe was found.
- Less weight (175), but weight is often wrong (old numbers/people lie about their weight)
- missing from Beckwith Township - Canada
- brown hair brown eyes
- 43 years old
- used the aliases of Carole Lalonde and Dianne Davis.

The websleuths page mentions : partial dental plate

Carole Dianne Roy was reported missing to the OPP on May 23, 2012. Through OPP investigation it was established that the last confirmed sighting for Roy was on Oct. 11, 1996.

Roy, Carole Dianne Carolle - Canadian Crime-opedia

coldcase.lailafarrell.com

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CANADA Thread 'Canada - Carole Roy, 43, Beckwith Township, Ont, 11 Oct 1996'

Oct 17, 2017

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/50-000-reward-for-information-on-missing-woman-1.4359091

Ontario Provincial Police are offering a $50,000 reward to anyone with information about the disappearance of a woman who was last seen in 1996.

Carole Dianne Roy was officially reported missing to OPP in 2012, 16 years after she was last seen. She lived in Quebec until the early 1990s before moving to the Ottawa area.

Roy is described as white with short grey-brown hair, approximately...

• dotr
• Replies: 11
• Forum: 1990's Missing

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Sex is listed as “Male” but there are several references to her as “she” so I am guessing it is either a typo or possibly she is transgender?

 

[Carovb5]

Sex is listed as “Male” but there are several references to her as “she” so I am guessing it is either a typo or possibly she is transgender?

I think it’s a mistake. I haven’t found any mentions of transgender or some other possibilities than just a born & living woman. (Sorry if i don’t type this the right/most respectfull way, English is only my 3th language)

“She is described as a Caucasian female”

Roy, Carole

Circumstances Carole Dianne Roy was reported missing in May 2012 but police say she hasn't been seen since October 11th, 1996. She resided in the Province of Quebec until the early 1990s before re-locating to the Ottawa area. She lived with her 59 year old boyfriend in

canadiancrimeopedia.com