Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #20

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Ali it was the Haixun that picked up the signal. Photo of the ship in second link

Chinese ship the Haixun 01 detected the signal late yesterday hours after it picked up an initial pulse signal.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...rss&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Chinese patrol ship Haixun 01 searches for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 on April 5, 2014

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-06/chinese-patrol-ship-haixun-01jpg/5370262

thanks
so it was the ship and not the pic we saw of the inflatable

 

[Steely Dan]

but the equipment they were using on that inflatable can detect sound in 600ft ocean depth ...now it is reported the sound they heard was in 4500 ft depth
so I am leaning towards more sophisticated equipment on a Ship heard the pings

but I could be mistaken :blushing::blushing:

BBM

Too bad the authorities running this thing don't have the same ability to admit possible mistakes, well they are cautious now.

 

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Excuse me if this is a repeat question - do the flight data recorder (FDR) and cockpit voice recorder (CVR) have their own boxes and therefore we are looking for two pings? Or is the black box both recordings? I want these pings to be for real so badly!

Do any of you know where the Ocean Shield is in reference to the Chinese pings? I am curious as to the distance of the pings found by them and us.

2 separate boxes
both Orange in colour
Underwater locator beacon on each unit..

2 pings should be heard IF batteries are still working properly

 

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Ok, so maybe 6 Chinese in an inflatable dingy, though I don't know if that is the same dingy as the one with the guys holding the pinger!

I only saw 3 guys on that inflatable..but maybe we just didn't see the others

 

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Second signal heard during search for black box from missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370

April 06, 2014 9:13PM

NEW satellite calculations have put the likely location of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 in the same spot where Chinese patrol vessel Haixun 01 detected deep water acoustic sounds on two consecutive days.

In the strongest lead to date, Air Chief Marshall Angus Houston said the Haixun 01 picked up sounds coming from about 4,500m down, in two locations just two kilometres apart, on Friday and Saturday.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...nes-flight-mh370/story-fnihsmjt-1226875948524

lease:

 

[Steely Dan]

Second signal heard during search for black box from missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370

April 06, 2014 9:13PM

NEW satellite calculations have put the likely location of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 in the same spot where Chinese patrol vessel Haixun 01 detected deep water acoustic sounds on two consecutive days.

In the strongest lead to date, Air Chief Marshall Angus Houston said the Haixun 01 picked up sounds coming from about 4,500m down, in two locations just two kilometres apart, on Friday and Saturday.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...nes-flight-mh370/story-fnihsmjt-1226875948524

From the article;

...“This morning we were contacted by the Chinese authorities and advised that Haixun 01 had late yesterday afternoon redetected the signals for 90 seconds within just two kilometres of the original section,” Mr Houston said....

 

[killer Chaser]

I just hope there isn't any truth to this crazy theory? http://theviralpost.com/tsunami-bomb-warning-found-on-10-dollar-bill/

 

[Steely Dan]

From the article;

...“This morning we were contacted by the Chinese authorities and advised that Haixun 01 had late yesterday afternoon redetected the signals for 90 seconds within just two kilometres of the original section,” Mr Houston said....

OOPS! I forgot to add. I wonder if it's normal for the black boxes to be found a mile and 1/4 away from each other or if it indicates an explosion?

 

[Elley Mae]

Thomas Altshuler, the vice president and general manager for Teledyne Marine Systems, said the device pictured in the photographs is a DPL-275 diver pinger locator and is intended for use in relatively shallow water. He said it is mainly intended for use by a diver, though it can also be used mounted to a pole or a boom and held over the side of a boat, the method apparently used by the crew of the Haixun 01.

But he was very cautious about whether the device could be used to successfully detect a pinger that was thousands of feet below the surface.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/07/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight-370.html?hp&_r=0

 

[LambChop]

I only saw 3 guys on that inflatable..but maybe we just didn't see the others

Not sure if that is the actual picture from the site. It just may be a picture that they have showing the equipment that was taken in China. And why would they have a photographer available to shoot a picture while they are out looking. Also I don't think in those rough seas they would use a dingy. jmo

 

[SouthAussie]

This article says that the black box locator on the Chinese Haixun 01 vessel is thought to be a hull-mounted beacon-listening device.

It does not sound as though those other little devices were the ones that heard the acoustic sounds. They are probably used by divers.


"It would be expected that a boat such as Haixun 01, which is thought to have a hull-mounted beacon-listening device, would initially pick up a signal and then lose it as it passed over the location. It would then retrace its steps to refine the location."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...nes-flight-mh370/story-fnihsmjt-1226875948524

 

[SouthAussie]

The British ship HMS Echo also has a hull-mounted device capable of detecting the same pulses. This is the ship that is on its way to help the Haixun 01 now ... should arrive sometime early tomorrow (Monday morning Aussie time).


"These sounds, or pulses, cannot be heard with human ears. Australia’s Ocean Shield is towing a pinger locator listening for sounds at this frequency, and the British ship HMS Echo had a hull-mounted device capable of detecting the same pulses."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/re...mh370s-black-box/story-fniztvne-1226875724698

 

[Suthrnqt]

Is there anyone here that actually believes we will ever find out what really happened to this flight? MOO, I don't think we will. Sorry, but that is how I feel.

 

[Elley Mae]

The crew of the Chinese ship reportedly picked up the signals using a hand-held sonar device called a hydrophone dangled over the side of a small runabout - something experts said was technically possible but extremely unlikely.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysi...ps-rush-to-probe-signals-after-another-heard/

The equipment aboard the Ocean Shield and the HMS Echo are dragged slowly behind each ship over long distances and are considered far more sophisticated than those the Chinese crew was using.

Footage aired on China's state-run CCTV showed crew members in the small boat with a device shaped like a large soup can attached to a pole. It was hooked up by cords to electronic equipment in a padded suitcase as they poked the device into the water.

 

[JerseyGirl]

thanks
so it was the ship and not the pic we saw of the inflatable

The inflatable comes from the ship.

http://www.jfdaily.com/shouye/focus/201404/t20140405_234374.html

 

[JerseyGirl]

The crew of the Chinese ship reportedly picked up the signals using a hand-held sonar device called a hydrophone dangled over the side of a small runabout - something experts said was technically possible but extremely unlikely.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysi...ps-rush-to-probe-signals-after-another-heard/

Footage aired on China's state-run CCTV showed crew members in the small boat with a device shaped like a large soup can attached to a pole. It was hooked up by cords to electronic equipment in a padded suitcase as they poked the device into the water.

http://www.jfdaily.com/shouye/focus/201404/t20140405_234374.html

 

[JerseyGirl]

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 flew around Indonesian airspace apparently to avoid detection after vanishing from radar screens on March 8, a media report said on Sunday, suggesting the possibility of a more sinister reason behind the jet's disappearance.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...id-radar-report-says/articleshow/33342854.cms

 

[Steely Dan]

http://www.jfdaily.com/shouye/focus/201404/t20140405_234374.html

No "wreckage" pictures?

 

[Momoffourboys]

No "wreckage" pictures?

:therethere:

 

[ilovepierre]

I was about 8 days in. :back:

Same here....