TX - Jonathan Foster, 12, Houston, 24 Dec 2010 - Mona Nelson charged with Murder - #7

[believe09]

Thank you fran. I dont think this is anything new, given Renee's husband's interview with the media...we knew that Jonathan had been removed from his mother's care for abuse and neglect.

Poor little man.

 

[Pensfan]

Apologize if this was brought up already.....that is kind of an odd band of coloring on her forehead. Tan line?

I have now seen 4 photos with this visible line on her forehead. It is likely a dermal melanocytosis, a hyperpigmented area of her skin.

 

[believe09]

Please continue here.

No name calling - not even of the accused.
No sleuthing or naming innocents.
Jonathan's family members are also considered victims - so post accordingly.
Any discussion of sexual orientation or appearance MUST be related to the case - if you can't show a connection, don't post it.

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Bumping Salem's post on the rules...

 

[Kat]

I know it is against TOS to request a PM. If this is upsetting to anyone please alert on my posting and a mod will delete and that mod will correct me.

Preface: The reason I can't be online is that my Husband is deployed again and I have no extra time to come to WS and read and post. My apologies.

Request for possible TOS violation: Could someone please send me a WS email with a rundown of all the developments in the last 24 hours? If someone could do that I would be very appreciative. If this posting isn't deleted. I will be back online within the next 24-48 hours to read up. Thank you very much in advance.

That way I don't clog up the thread and slog it down with a request of an update and a multitude of responses. Plus it's unfair to do that to those that have spent hours and hours dedicated to following Jonathan.

Bless this child. My Prayers for his family, his friend and loved ones. May they eventually find peace of mind after this horrific tragedy.

 

[Reannan]

Thank you fran. I dont think this is anything new, given Renee's husband's interview with the media...we knew that Jonathan had been removed from his mother's care for abuse and neglect.

Poor little man.

God Bless Renee and Glenn! They were probably the best thing that ever happened in little Jonathan's life. This story is just breaking my heart and I only just learned of him. Reneelovesyou - again, I am SO, SO sorry about what has happened. I wish I could make it not true. I wish I could make it not real. It is a nightmare. The only thing we can do now, is demand justice - which I think LE is on top of in this case.

 

[annalyzer]

does anyone know what time the mother rec'vd the strange phone calls at work, what time she headed home and what time she called 911? tia

 

[SuziQ]

The mom is with her mother, she wasn't there.
We have a taser, we have a couple aggressive neighborhood dogs whose owners let them run the streets and they are always after my dogs. That is why I got it. I've used it 1 time. Some drunk guy walked in my back door from a local beer festival and he thought our house was his, but refused to leave and moved towards me and my kids behind me while I was waiting for the police to get here, i let him have it LOL.

Cool.

 

[Amster]

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Officials said that in December 2005 there was an allegation of neglected supervision and physical abuse of Jonathan and his half sister when they were living in Galveston County. When CPS went to investigate the claims, both children were living with other relatives and the case was closed.

In Houston in December 2006, there was a second allegation of neglect, physical abuse and medical neglect of both Jonathan and his half sister, officials said. The case was closed because Jonathan had moved to his uncle's home out of state and his half sister was living with her grandmother.

more here - heart-wrenching to read of Uncle Glenn's love for Jonathan.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/26325836/detail.html

Since I can't say what I really want to without mentioning the birth mother of Jonathan......and offending people....I'll just say, God Bless Uncle Glenn and Aunt Renee. Jonathan had a few happy years in his tragic, short life.

 

[Reannan]

I have now seen 4 photos with this visible line on her forehead. It is likely a dermal melanocytosis, a hyperpigmented area of her skin.

Several posters have pointed out that they have seen similar "tan lines" on the foreheads of welders. The welding mask shields their eyes, but they sometimes still get this line from the heat of the welding process. We have heard there was welding equipment in her home, and there is some horrible ideas about a blow torch being used to burn the body. :sick:

 

[tfrohning]

dang that hurts to read

So Jonathan open presents early? confused since he went missing on the afternoon of Christmas Eve ?????

 

[peeples]

They are sitting there still wrapped waiting to be opened i think is what she's saying.....

 

[badhorsie]

Here are the names of more women that killed the children of others:

Name Kills Survivors Context Modus
Phan Thi Ai 3 lover's children burned
Maria del Rosio Alfaro 1 9 year old girl stabbed
Beverly Allitt 4 22 Pediatric Nurse Injection
Melanie Anderson 1 girl 2 beating, torture
Gertrude Baniszewski 1 girl 16 tortured, beaten
Mary Flora Bell 2 1 playmates strangled
Barbara Briggs 1 grandson beaten, starved
Linda Burnett 1 stranger shot
Sally_Clark 2 infants (crib death) smothered
Patricia Coker 1 foster-daughter beaten
Betty Coker 1 foster-granddaughter beaten
Mary Ann Cotton 4 stepchildren poison
Minnie Dean 2 (3+) ? baby farm smothered
Nannie Hazel Doss 2 grandchildren smothered
Lillie Easter 1 foster son beaten, drowned
Marti Enriqueta 6+ 1 "magic" boiled, eaten, rendered into "potions"
Ellen Etheridge 4 stepchildren poison
Sandy Evans 1 adopted daughter child abuse
Christine Falling 6 babysitter smothered
Lynne Friend 1 guardian beaten
Caril Fugate 1 baby sister choked
Janie Lou Gibbs 1 grandchild poison
Veronica Gonzalez 1 neice age 4 tortured, scalded to death
Ester Rebecca Griggs 1 exorcism beaten
Belle Gunness 1+ stepchild
Bonney Heady 1 kidnap victim shot
Cathy Lynn Henderson 1 boy 3 months (babysitter) beaten
Audrey Marie Hilley 1 several neighborhood child poison
Wanda Holloway 0 1(?) cheerleader(s?) contract killing
Karla Holmolka 1 ? baby sister drugged, sexually assaulted, choked on vomit
Deidre Hunt 1 teenager tortured, shot
Helene Jegado several household servant poison
Genene Jones 11 (46) Pediatric Nurse injection
Lois Jurgens 1 adopted son beaten, tortured
Penelope Kenney 1
Dorothy Jean Livingston 1 foster-daughter kicked down staircase (repeatedly)
Eddiesenior Jones McLaughlin 1 adopted son beaten, burned
Sarah Makin 7+ baby farm stabbed with knitting needles
Beth Ann Markman 1 teenager choked
Evelyn Kay Miller 1 foster son shaken baby
Angela Hope Miller 1 nephew shaken baby
Alice Mitchell (37) nurse starvation, neglect
Marie Moore ? ? coven ?
Patricia Moore 3 babysitter stranged, suffocated
Louisa Northcott ? ? serial sex slayings ?
Hannah Ocuish 1 playmate beaten, choked
Julia Ann Olivas 1 exorcism beaten
Sandra Pankow 3 babysitter smothered
Martha Place 1 stepdaughter acid in face, smothered
Renee Polreis 1 adopted son beaten
Lisa Price 1 foster daughter beaten
Latasha Pulliam 1 neighbor's daughter age 6 tortured, strangled
Martha Rendell 3 1 stepchildren hydrochloric acid
Patricia Rorrer 1 boyfriend's baby shot, suffocated
Amelia Sach dozens ? baby farm poison
Lydia Sherman 2 ? 3 husbands, 5 children, 2 stepchildren poison
Sarah Simpson 1
Brenda Spencer 2 9 principal, janitor, school kids shot
Debra Sue Tuggle 1 fiancee's child drowned
Lise Jane Turner 1 2 (6) babysitting smothered
Louise Vermilyea 1 stepchild poison
Mary Wallis 1 servant
Annie Walters dozens ? baby farm poison
Jeanne Weber 7+ many 2 nieces, 2 nephews, 3 neighbor's kids (babysitter) strangled
Rosemary West 1 (?) stepdaughter
Roselere Wilkenson 1 stepdaughter beaten
Rosa Wilkerson 1 granddaughter poisoned, smothered
Jacqueline Annette Williams 3 adult female 28, girl 10, boy 7 shot, stabbed
Martha Woods 4 2 babysitter suffocation
Dora Wright 1 stepdaughter
Caroline Young 2 grandson 6, granddaughter 4 stabbed
Lila Gladys Young (100+) baby farm neglect, starvation
Anna Zwanziger ? ? rivals, employers and their families poison

Poor Sally Clark was cleared [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Clark[/ame]

I could add Myra Hindley..

 

[kalekona]

http://www.click2houston.com/news/26326459/detail.html

Here are the names of more women that killed the children of others:

Name Kills Survivors Context Modus
Phan Thi Ai 3 lover's children burned
Maria del Rosio Alfaro 1 9 year old girl stabbed
Beverly Allitt 4 22 Pediatric Nurse Injection
Melanie Anderson 1 girl 2 beating, torture
Gertrude Baniszewski 1 girl 16 tortured, beaten
Mary Flora Bell 2 1 playmates strangled
Barbara Briggs 1 grandson beaten, starved
Linda Burnett 1 stranger shot
Sally_Clark 2 infants (crib death) smothered
Patricia Coker 1 foster-daughter beaten
Betty Coker 1 foster-granddaughter beaten
Mary Ann Cotton 4 stepchildren poison
Minnie Dean 2 (3+) ? baby farm smothered
Nannie Hazel Doss 2 grandchildren smothered
Lillie Easter 1 foster son beaten, drowned
Marti Enriqueta 6+ 1 "magic" boiled, eaten, rendered into "potions"
Ellen Etheridge 4 stepchildren poison
Sandy Evans 1 adopted daughter child abuse
Christine Falling 6 babysitter smothered
Lynne Friend 1 guardian beaten
Caril Fugate 1 baby sister choked
Janie Lou Gibbs 1 grandchild poison
Veronica Gonzalez 1 neice age 4 tortured, scalded to death
Ester Rebecca Griggs 1 exorcism beaten
Belle Gunness 1+ stepchild
Bonney Heady 1 kidnap victim shot
Cathy Lynn Henderson 1 boy 3 months (babysitter) beaten
Audrey Marie Hilley 1 several neighborhood child poison
Wanda Holloway 0 1(?) cheerleader(s?) contract killing
Karla Holmolka 1 ? baby sister drugged, sexually assaulted, choked on vomit
Deidre Hunt 1 teenager tortured, shot
Helene Jegado several household servant poison
Genene Jones 11 (46) Pediatric Nurse injection
Lois Jurgens 1 adopted son beaten, tortured
Penelope Kenney 1
Dorothy Jean Livingston 1 foster-daughter kicked down staircase (repeatedly)
Eddiesenior Jones McLaughlin 1 adopted son beaten, burned
Sarah Makin 7+ baby farm stabbed with knitting needles
Beth Ann Markman 1 teenager choked
Evelyn Kay Miller 1 foster son shaken baby
Angela Hope Miller 1 nephew shaken baby
Alice Mitchell (37) nurse starvation, neglect
Marie Moore ? ? coven ?
Patricia Moore 3 babysitter stranged, suffocated
Louisa Northcott ? ? serial sex slayings ?
Hannah Ocuish 1 playmate beaten, choked
Julia Ann Olivas 1 exorcism beaten
Sandra Pankow 3 babysitter smothered
Martha Place 1 stepdaughter acid in face, smothered
Renee Polreis 1 adopted son beaten
Lisa Price 1 foster daughter beaten
Latasha Pulliam 1 neighbor's daughter age 6 tortured, strangled
Martha Rendell 3 1 stepchildren hydrochloric acid
Patricia Rorrer 1 boyfriend's baby shot, suffocated
Amelia Sach dozens ? baby farm poison
Lydia Sherman 2 ? 3 husbands, 5 children, 2 stepchildren poison
Sarah Simpson 1
Brenda Spencer 2 9 principal, janitor, school kids shot
Debra Sue Tuggle 1 fiancee's child drowned
Lise Jane Turner 1 2 (6) babysitting smothered
Louise Vermilyea 1 stepchild poison
Mary Wallis 1 servant
Annie Walters dozens ? baby farm poison
Jeanne Weber 7+ many 2 nieces, 2 nephews, 3 neighbor's kids (babysitter) strangled
Rosemary West 1 (?) stepdaughter
Roselere Wilkenson 1 stepdaughter beaten
Rosa Wilkerson 1 granddaughter poisoned, smothered
Jacqueline Annette Williams 3 adult female 28, girl 10, boy 7 shot, stabbed
Martha Woods 4 2 babysitter suffocation
Dora Wright 1 stepdaughter
Caroline Young 2 grandson 6, granddaughter 4 stabbed
Lila Gladys Young (100+) baby farm neglect, starvation
Anna Zwanziger ? ? rivals, employers and their families poison

Almost all of those the killer and the victims were known to each other-I still didn't see one who killed for the simple pleasure of it such as what we are seeing in this case.
Even Karla Holmolka killed for her boy friend.
Yes women kill no one is denying that-baby farmers, gang members or women out for revenge are not in the same league as this woman.

 

[Coldpizza]

Well good night all, may Jonathan and his sweet innocence fly amongst the Angels and find friends with far too many taken. May they play games all day, ride horses and ponies, and have the sun shine over them always.

 

[sarx]

The question is, is this her first time?

 

[Openmind]

Detectives said their investigation suggested Nelson abducted Foster from his mother&#8217;s apartment last Friday afternoon. Witnesses reported seeing Nelson talking to the boy around 12:30 p.m. Miller described Nelson&#8217;s actions as &#8220;methodical&#8221; in the way she stalked the child before kidnapping him.
Nelson then took the fifth-grader to her apartment near U.S. 59 and Laura Koppe, where she killed him and burned the body, according to investigators.
A welder by trade, Nelson apparently used welding torches to burn the boy&#8217;s body in her apartment before dumping it in a drainage ditch on Schilder near the Hardy Toll Road. A surveillance camera from the nearby Rolled Alloys facility captured an image of Nelson dumping the body. That surveillance video led detectives to Nelson.

http://www.fortbendnow.com/2010/12/30/49726

 

[everyoneneedsavoice]

Proves she does have a daughter... and wow.... 5 grandchildren! YIKES!

Police said she attacked her adult daughter.

Nelson has family that lives in Titus County, including a daughter, five grandchildren and an ex-husband.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/26326459/detail.html

I'm so glad this finally came out in msm...it was killing me...I found the divorce records from a paid site yesterday and went to Titus County website today...you have to register, but the 3 cases in Titus County are there...with victims names, so I'm not going to post them...but here's the link...

http://www.co.titus.tx.us/index.html

 

[everyoneneedsavoice]

The question is, is this her first time?

ITA...apparently HPD doesn't think so either...


Police also said they believe Nelson is a a predator who has done this before and that they don't believe her brutality begins with Jonathan.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7869821

 

[A_News_Junkie]

OT- Those local to Jonathan's area, can you pm me with florist recommendations please I don't know anyone else to ask and I don't trust teleflorists, sorry for the OT.
ETA: I'd like to send something when funeral arrangements are made public. that's why I'm asking

Other ideas would be to donate to TES or Klaas Kids Foundation in Jonathan's name.
Just tossing out other ideas - hope this is okay, if not will a mod delete and slap me nicely.

 

[SuziQ]

Below is a link to the Lane Bryant mass murder case and suspect sketch. Even though there is no link to Ill. so far, the sketch is the first thing that came to mind when LE said their may be other victims. LE theorizes this was a robbery gone bad.

Just sayin....

http://www.tinleyparkpolice.org/LB_homicide.htm