NV NV - Las Vegas, WhtMale 45-60, UP9009, hanged from billboard, poss from Europe, Jan'97

Thank you for your response Ambercat. I don't really think the hair color was a typo. I was thinking maybe they were going off old info on Elvins License. His hair looks really dark in this image to me. I thought I had read somewhere that he was found a few weeks later so parts of the UID may have started to decompose but I can't find that info now so I may be getting this one confused with another case.
 
What happens in Las Vegas stays in Las Vegas, I guess. There's a desert full of proof of that. You'd think that the PD would provide information in the clothing tags, and so forth. I mean, I guess if you knew where to buy a trench coat in Las Vegas you could go out and buy one, but there's probably not a high demand for them. Seems much likelier that our UID brought all those clothes with him. Be nice to know the manufacturers of the other items, too.

Otherwise, all we've got is conjecture on the origins. He could be an accountant from New Jersey who got himself in trouble and in desperation tried to make up the loss by hitting the casinos. Seiko doesn't exactly scream "high roller." He might have gotten rid of his ID in order that his family could eventually get him declared dead and collect on an insurance policy. He might have had his family threatened to force him to come to Vegas so that "justice" could be exacted in a location where the solution to the liquidation would be less likely. If he was, perhaps it was thought best to get rid of him in a manner that would certainly inspire a newspaper report that could be clipped and sent to interested parties. Who knows? You'd think that with all these personal articles, and not much time elapsed from his conjectured suicide to when he was discovered, we'd have more info to go on.

If he was from Europe, Monaco was closer at hand. If he flew to Vegas to make a desperate bid to mend his fortunes from Europe, he was probably contemplating suicide in the event of failure when he departed. Without more information, there's no way of guessing the likelihoods. I mean, there are lots of Italianate looking men from Argentina. I like to imagine that the authorities in Vegas did the fundamental research, because they did bother making a life sketch and all, but I really can't say. If they're interested in solving this, they should release more info, IMO. They might just be going through the motions, hoping to avoid negative publicity. There's just not a lot to go on.
 
I was looking through a Canadian missing persons website and I noticed Eric Stanley Ram. He has a scar on his abdomen (which could be from appendix removal?) and another on his arm, like the UID. His hair, height, and weight are all very close to the UID and he wears glasses. It's sort of difficult to compare facial features because of Mr. Ram's beard.
01165_Image_S.jpg

http://www.missingadults.ca/viewMAcase.php?case=ON-MM-1991-10-01165&Gender=Male&DateOfDiscoveryStart=1985-01-01&DateOfDiscoveryEnd=1999-06-23&Hair=Black,Brown&Eyes=Brown,Grey,Green,Hazel&&StartAt=10&EndAt=20&CurCase=11
 
It wouldn't hurt Las Vegas Police to release the suicide note at this point, either.

It may produce people who recognize the handwriting (assuming it was handwritten), or certain phrases, etc. I still think this man was European or possibly from Latin America (with a nod to the other poster who suggested Argentina, particularly).

I wonder if he cut the tags off the clothing too, in order to obscure his origins.

I'm also curious as to where this billboard was located. Was it on a rooftop somewhere, or was it anchored into the ground? From what I've seen, billboards and other utility type items (i.e. hydro poles) are hard to climb without special equipment. They are designed that way for safety reasons. I can't imagine it was easy for him to climb the thing.
 
http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/ar/t19235.htm

I found this about Crist. I think it was a good find Ambercat, however:

Crist was a bit on the young side. (UID was likely 50's).

The info. presented here does not jive with the suicide note (although details in the note could be made up).

It looks like Crist was probably murdered, from what I read.

** Crist did look a lot like the UID, especially when I imagine him without glasses, and compare that to the postmortem.
JMHO
 
Besides the obvious gambling and entertainment, Vegas is a big town for conventions of all kinds.

I wonder if he was in the city for some sort of business convention. If so, I think it would be more likely he would be missed.

Even if the note is an authentic description of how his life was, you would think he would have work friends/colleagues who would wonder about what became of him.

He seemed too young to be retired, although this is possible. Maybe he was self-employed or some type of consultant, and was in the city at a convention or trade show to do with his field, when his depression got the better of him?
 
The intersection of Spring Mountain Rd and Industrial Rd looks like it is next to Interstate 15 (there is an off ramp for Spring Mountain Rd that always made me think of this poor guy every time I drove past it). It looks like the parking structure for Treasure Island at the Southeast corner of the intersection. Looking a bit closer, it looks like there isn’t exactly an intersection and Spring Mountain passes over Industrial Rd right before Industrial Rd intersects with Mel Torme Way (I am only using mapping websites and not there, so this could be incorrect). On Google Earth, I went to street level at the intersection and it looks like there are a couple of free standing billboards that are probably intended to be viewed from I-15 or the Spring Mountain on/off ramps.

In my opinion, it seems like a somewhat indiscreet place to commit suicide if he didn’t want to be identified, but that is just IMO.

http://goo.gl/maps/Z9Wdw
http://goo.gl/maps/SEitJ
 
I took a look at the map, and it seems that way, that Spring Mountain passes over Industrial Road.

He must have climbed that billboard at night, where it would have been tough to see him. He would have risked a police patrol noticing him during the day.
I didn't recall what he used as a "noose" to hang himself with. As gruesome as it is, it is an important clue. Also, how long had he been dead?

When I first read about the case, I thought his body was on display for passersby to see. However, he was found inside or behind the sign panels, according to the earlier post.
It could have been a fluke that someone noticed his remains, as he was inside the structure. Or, he could have been discovered during maintenance on the sign.

I realize that Nevada is mainly desert, but I wonder why he committed suicide in an urban area instead of in the bush someplace where he may never have been found?

I think that this was simply a suicide and nothing more, but the circumstances are unusual, to say the least.

Also, I dropped down on the StreetView and looked at the billboards (I am a bit mixed up on the location). They look difficult to climb, needing a ladder to get to the rungs on the trunk of the
structure. I am not sure which one he was found on, or if I am in the wrong place, or if the original one is even still there. Again, an odd way to commit suicide. He likely risked falling
before he even made it to the top of the sign.
 
Is there any word on Kenneth Kolpfenstein as a PM?

I just read through this thread, and he stood out as the most likely match so far IMO. The photo resemblance is so close that it's a little spooky. According to his story on nampn.org, he was likely depressed and acting irrational before he disappeared in 1986 (consistent with the note that said he hadn't talked to family in 10 years).

http://www.nampn.org/cases/klopfenstein_kenneth.html
 
Is there any word on Kenneth Kolpfenstein as a PM?

I just read through this thread, and he stood out as the most likely match so far IMO. The photo resemblance is so close that it's a little spooky. According to his story on nampn.org, he was likely depressed and acting irrational before he disappeared in 1986 (consistent with the note that said he hadn't talked to family in 10 years).

http://www.nampn.org/cases/klopfenstein_kenneth.html

I haven't heard back about Kenneth Klopfenstein yet. When I looked at photos of the two, I thought that the shape of both men's facial features and ears were remarkably similar. I would guess if Kenneth wasn't from Washington state, he would be from Germany or Austria (or maybe Switzerland?)? Klopfenstein sounds German to me. That would be consistent with the note, where Washington state wouldn't really be.
 
I haven't heard back about Kenneth Klopfenstein yet. When I looked at photos of the two, I thought that the shape of both men's facial features and ears were remarkably similar. I would guess if Kenneth wasn't from Washington state, he would be from Germany or Austria (or maybe Switzerland?)? Klopfenstein sounds German to me. That would be consistent with the note, where Washington state wouldn't really be.

OT and mentioned only as a matter of interest: a Mennonite friend of mine tells me that there are a lot of Klopfensteins who are Mennonites, especially in the Pacific northwest.
 
Is there any word on Kenneth Kolpfenstein as a PM?

I just read through this thread, and he stood out as the most likely match so far IMO. The photo resemblance is so close that it's a little spooky. According to his story on nampn.org, he was likely depressed and acting irrational before he disappeared in 1986 (consistent with the note that said he hadn't talked to family in 10 years).

http://www.nampn.org/cases/klopfenstein_kenneth.html

I heard back from Rick Jones of the Clark County Coroner's Office; Kenneth Klopfenstein has been ruled out via fingerprints as being the UID. I really did think he looked like a younger version of the man from Las Vegas, but I guess there are any number of different people who look similar.
 
I heard back from Rick Jones of the Clark County Coroner's Office; Kenneth Klopfenstein has been ruled out via fingerprints as being the UID. I really did think he looked like a younger version of the man from Las Vegas, but I guess there are any number of different people who look similar.

Thanks for the update Ambercat! I really thought that Kenneth could be our guy.
 
I wish there were examples of his handwriting available! People of this man's generation educated in the Soviet Union, for example, do have a pretty distinct handwriting style so would make me lean one way or the other...
 
I know that I said in an earlier post that this person did not look Greek, but I noticed George Orfanos who is a naturalized US citizen from Greece who is wanted by the ATF for arson (in Sacramento, CA) and various other charges. He reported speaks broken English with a "pronounced" accent (this sounds like it would be consistent with the note). He has been wanted since 1992. I'm not sure if his prints would have triggered a match (I am assuming that LE has Mr. Orfanos' prints because prior to a person becoming a citizen it is necessary to submit fingerprints (this is around 1999-2005, it might not have always been that way)).
orfanos-george-anthony_0_0.jpg

http://www.atf.gov/content/george-orfanos
 
I like the way you're thinking about this, Ambercat, but in the photo Orfanos's chin is really almost Jay Leno massive, to my eye, whereas this UID's is somewhat pronounced. It's good to have Orfano out there, though. It would be nice if LE would add these fugitives into missing persons databases after a set period, or at least after the statutes of limitations have run.
 

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