NV NV - Steven T. Koecher, 30, Henderson, 13 Dec 2009 - #21

Lady LEO said:

Has anyone here personally gone to a job interview on a Sunday afternoon at a private home or knows someone first hand who has?

If so, what type of business was it?

What do most people do on Sundays?

Why would someone be going to a private residence at a specific time?

How do we know that the time was specific to an appointment? Could have been coincidence. He stopped in unannounced at a private residence in the middle of the day during the work week just days prior.

The presumption that SK was going to a job interview doesn't ring true to me. The day of the week and the location just aren't right. Interviews on Saturdays are pretty rare, let alone Sunday afternoons.

I have heard of weekend retreats/conferences/get-aways/seminars/events/or holiday festival/concerts that will be conducted on Saturday and Sundays. This was the second week of December when it would be reasonable that holiday events would be well into their schedule. Also, there are those 2 day "get rich quick" conferences that will occur on Saturdays and Sundays, frequently w/o a cost for admission. Knowing that SK was struggling for a job, this type of conference may have interested him and possible even gotten him excited about his future new business prospects, this could have been viewed as his big break. If he had been planning on attending an event of this nature, this may be why he sounded up-beat in the days prior, because he was excited about the opportunity to turn thing around.

Not to mention that Vegas is a hot spot for conferences or large scale events.

The Overton ping on Saturday could have been the outbound journey to Henderson, spent the day at the event, with the Mesquite ping representing the return trip.

The start time for the Sunday sessions will sometimes be later in the morning or after the lunch hour and will be restricted to the afternoon hours before concluding. Cell phones off during the time spent in the event, cell phone back on after the retreat is over, thus the ping on Sunday evening.

SK may have met people at the retreat/conference who offered to let him ride with them the next day. Because of gmith's input here on WS, we know that when possible, SK would prefer to have other people drive because he didn't want to spend money on gas, even if it was just short trips or just two friends hanging out.

So, Saturday night, SK returns to St. George to his apartment, is seen for only 30 mins before he is observed by the neighbor leaving again, and he returns to Henderson, but sleeps in his car which is why the pillows and blanket and toiletry bag are in the back seat and more items aren't packed or missing from his home.

Next morning, maybe he runs a few errands, pays cash for breakfast, and then joins up with the people in the SCA area who he may have visited with the day before and parked in their driveway in the SCA neighborhood. Since he now knows the neighborhood, he parked his car out of the way, walks to their home or the home they are staying at, and rides along with them to the event.

Or, he might never have been to that neighborhood before but the people drew a map on the back of a piece of paper he had with him. Once he made it to the neighborhood, he would have just had to turn left and travel down SS to the cul-de-sac. Depending on the quality of the map they drew, they may have indicated where to park and then walk to the house he was going to, which might not have been on EL, but on one of the other streets. He would have been walking with his head down while covering ground knowing that he wouldn't need to look up and be aware of the house numbers until he was at the end of EL. This would have appeared comfortable and purposeful, he was a missionary, he wasn't unaccustomed to being in unfamiliar neighborhoods locating addresses.

The folder that SK was seen carrying could have very well been issued at the event and contained the schedule and/or training materials, and if he was provided with a map, it is probable he had it with him so that he could open the folder and reference the map. The extra 4 minutes spent in the vehicle could easily have been that he put the map he had been looking at while driving into the folder, double checked his walking path on the map before closing the folder, reviewed the event schedule for the day, made sure he had everything he need, checked his appearance in his mirror, and then gotten out and started walking towards the house.

Depending on the event, people might have only been in town only for the event, then returned home. If the people he met up with were only in town for the event and were staying w/friends or family in the SCA area for convenience, they would have been gone by the time police started canvasing the neighborhood asking questions. Also, if they were waiting in their vehicle, ready to go, SK may never have gone into the house and the home owner may not have ever seen SK or had any knowledge that he was even there. The people he was joining could have just told the home owner that someone that they had met at the event was going to ride with them, but not even mentioned his name and this wouldn't have raised suspicion.

Depending on the type of event, i.e. "get rich quick", SK may not have wanted the scrutiny or appearance of being desperate enough to attend one which he why did didn't mention the reason he was there when he spoke on the phone with his fellow church members. But, he could have skipped the second day of the event if "needed" to return for church services.

An event of this nature would have been advertised and a phone call may not appear suspicious or even needed in order to attend. He would not necessarily have made or received phone calls from people he met at the event, and the event materials may have been in the folder which is why there wasn't anything found in his vehicle mentioning the event. Or, it is possible that an advertisement for the event was found in the vehicle, but overlooked because it didn't seem relevant at the time.

No harm may have come to him at anytime during the event or from the people that he may have met. But, something might have interfered with his ability to get a ride back to his vehicle. That is maybe where the trail warms up....


Has anyone checked to see if any of the above events were occurring over that weekend besides the rodeo finals?

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guitar3 said:

This just in on the news::
Human Skull, Bones Found SW Of Vegas http://dlvr.it/Rf66D #vegas

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hollyblue said:

A preliminary investigation determined the bones have “been out there for a period of time” and were “exposed to the elements,” McGrath said.

http://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/may/13/human-remains-found-desert-southwest-las-vegas/

AS VEGAS -- LasVegas Metro police are investigating the discovery of a human skull and some bones near the town of Goodsprings, Nev., about 25 miles southwest of Las Vegas.

http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/27891924/detail.html


This states surveyors find them, but not sure if human. I guess they hadn't found the skull yet.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/possible-human-bones-found-in-desert-near-las-vegas-121818559.html

Area of find:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Jean,+NV+89044&daddr=Goodsprings+Road,+Goodsprings,+NV+to:Savannah+Springs+Avenue,+Henderson,+NV&hl=en&geocode=FUfrIQIdWU4g-SmdWO45gEnPgDF6HxrAJivgqQ%3BFX2fIgIdteMe-SkXjJewh0vPgDFDxrcp2vPDxw%3BFRd1JAIdiLAj-Skl49u9ZM3IgDFY-ADT3IY2Hw&gl=us&mra=ls&sll=35.799994,-115.369835&sspn=0.12809,0.21904&ie=UTF8&ll=35.87848,-115.251389&spn=0.255927,0.43808&t=h&z=11

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AlexLouise44 said:

Hello everyone,
I got a hold of my friend who was once homeless in Vegas. At the moment he is heading over to different churches with the flyers. He also has gone to some of the shelters (he used to work at one so he's asking them to look out for Steven). He also told me that he used to give a fake name to shelters as most ask for ID or a name to record. So unfortuantely if Steven is homeless and doesn't want to be found he can get away with it. He is also going to check a few places that the homeless hang out at with the flyers. HE is hoping someone might know where he is or if they have seen him. I know LE is working with the case etc but he is going to go anyway. Is there anything I should tell him or get him to do at the same time! Thanks everyone, hopefully we get some answers

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AlexLouise44 said:

He is definitely aware of the changed of living on the streets. Thankfully he still has a few friends who are homeless etc so he will check with them.

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pirateboy said:

Okay, haven't read the entire 21 threads, but asking for an update. Sorry if it's been covered already.

-Whatever happened with the IHOP character who could've been Steven?

-Is it assumed Steven has passed?

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