CA - Child *advertiser censored* charges against John Mark Karr dismissed

Rocky said:
Can we fly parents in from Bangkok of children he raped and murdered?

Doesn't the more serious charges come first in the International court of law?




There are no charges waiting for him over there. He just has to serve his time in Calif and he is back on the streets again. At least if he returns to Bangkok the schools are all aware that he is a pervert and why he has lost every job in every school that he has ever taught in.
 
Isn't anyone thinking what I'm thinking, that inmates may kill Karr, unless he's protected in solitary or something? He probably knows that. Otherwise he'd have free room and board for a while, to write his book.
 
the lawyer could argue that it was for a book that still isnt written-i think a jury would believe he intended to use it for depraved fantasies.
 
Good Morning,

Listening to MSNBC this morning, I have heard that Ca is looking into anything possible to keep Karr off the streets as long as possible. Undoubtedly they do not want to be the state that releases him when he is such a danger to society, even though he would be under close supervision. That doesn't always work as we have seen. This is not official news, but rather the opinion of the comentators on MSNBC from what they have learned.

But what is really interesting comes from yesterday's court hearing and possible evidence in Karr's lap-top computer. It was said that he suddenly looked green and quite unwell {my poetic license, but the same meaning ;} when it was said Ca is going to go through everything he has in that computer! There is a feeling there might be much, much more disturbing info there on which possible other crimes, and even federal charges might be in the making!

The hostess of the show said you could liken it to telling someone, hey I have your password now and am going to see exactly what you have been up to! LOL LOL

The one problem with that I see as possibly defendable is just because the computer technology is so much better now than in 2001, how can one go back and amend or increase charges based on new info come to light. Yes, it still is an ongoing case, but I would think they would have to have brand new charges for this world trolliping tushie wanna-be!

Scandi
 
scandi said:
Good Morning,

Listening to MSNBC this morning, I have heard that Ca is looking into anything possible to keep Karr off the streets as long as possible. Undoubtedly they do not want to be the state that releases him when he is such a danger to society, even though he would be under close supervision. That doesn't always work as we have seen. This is not official news, but rather the opinion of the comentators on MSNBC from what they have learned.

But what is really interesting comes from yesterday's court hearing and possible evidence in Karr's lap-top computer. It was said that he suddenly looked green and quite unwell {my poetic license, but the same meaning ;} when it was said Ca is going to go through everything he has in that computer! There is a feeling there might be much, much more disturbing info there on which possible other crimes, and even federal charges might be in the making!

The hostess of the show said you could liken it to telling someone, hey I have your password now and am going to see exactly what you have been up to! LOL LOL

The one problem with that I see as possibly defendable is just because the computer technology is so much better now than in 2001, how can one go back and amend or increase charges based on new info come to light. Yes, it still is an ongoing case, but I would think they would have to have brand new charges for this world trolliping tushie wanna-be!

Scandi
Good morning Scandi! I am sure I am not the only one here who gets a kick out of your "poetic license". You are too funny and your posts are great. Thanks for a big smile this morning. :blowkiss:
 
I wouldn't be suprised if something happened to him during his trip back to CA.
 
Seeker said:
I wouldn't be suprised if something happened to him during his trip back to CA.
You mean like a "trip" down a flight of stairs or an "accidental" shank in the throat?
 
Thanks Anita,

It was from Rita Cosby that I got the feeling for that poetic description! LOL Something like when that was stated in court he shifted in his chair and was obviously suddenly overwhelmed by the thought of it as his face demeanor took on a changed look. And it was noticed by many that were present to the point of discussion between themselves!

Oh boy, it makes you wonder what the rest of the story could be, in fact I will bet the lap top will be our newest thread coming up! YaYa

I also caught it when a poster mentioned a murder victim of his in Thailand, and think that was somewhat misconstrued, which could be easy to happen.

What was said by Mary was there was a young girl he had taken to on the same degree as JonBenet, and this was a student in the school where he had just started teaching that Tuesday I believe. They didn't want anything to happen to her.

Scandi
 
We can only guess what's on that pc.
However I bet there's ALOT to put him away for a long time, well hope so...:innocent:
 
Well if the crux of the case against him in CA is Wendy Hutchens and her infamous recordings and email (probably photo) trading, how does her getting paid for interviews, playing recordings during those interviews, and selling her "journal" on Ebay going to affect the case?
 
Anita Richman said:
Good morning Scandi! I am sure I am not the only one here who gets a kick out of your "poetic license". You are too funny and your posts are great. Thanks for a big smile this morning. :blowkiss:
i think because he bolted before a trial-they can do anything they want-its karr who caused the delay..he has lost alot of rights from bolting..and they are allowed to scrutinize his every move before and during that bolt.
 
lighthouselover said:
Well if the crux of the case against him in CA is Wendy Hutchens and her infamous recordings and email (probably photo) trading, how does her getting paid for interviews, playing recordings during those interviews, and selling her "journal" on Ebay going to affect the case?
because the police themselves asked her to make the tapes-they are authentic-i dont think what she does with them matters - she had them before and thats what matters-its not like she came forward for the first time to the public-that would be different-she made these tapes under police supervision and it is real
 
newtv said:
because the police themselves asked her to make the tapes-they are authentic-i dont think what she does with them matters - she had them before and thats what matters-its not like she came forward for the first time to the public-that would be different-she made these tapes under police supervision and it is real
She may have done it at the request of the police, however, had he remained in CA and fought the charges, he stood a chance of arguing entrapment. But the question still remains, if she taped at the request of the police, why was she still in possession of the tapes?

According to Beth Karas, prior to JMK fleeing, he had won a motion which in effect, threw out the photos. The DA appealed and another judge ruled them back in. That tells me that the photos are all their evidence. It remains to be seen how he acquired the photos, but I have my own opinions about that. Remember, he was only charged with possession - a misdemeanor. Had he been downloading, producing, or sending the photos to anyone - it would have been a felony.

The problem with Wendy Hutchens is that unless this case had been dismissed, she is still more than likely going to be called as a witness. By going on shows like LKL and Nancy Grace, she has in effect "sold" her testimony (i.e. how she met him, how she came to tape him, and so on). Also, if you ever visited the wendyhutchens site, she posted her record of correspondence (phone and email) with JMK. In that record, she clearly lists sending photos to JMK. There were 5 photos sent.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a JMK apologist, but there may not be a conviction in the misdemeanor child *advertiser censored* because any defense lawyer worth their salt is going to present the above issues.
 
newtv said:
I think its a joke that he would even try fighting it-what a total loser-and some think he is simply a mental case-how can he just be a victim of his own life and then fight extradition for charges he knows he is guilty of or could have that proven - why would he want to stay in boulder but not return to his other charges..loser-loser-loser..they need to look at every possible loophole to charge him with to extend his time in jail.
I am pretty sure he can get 6 years for his charges and at least one year for fleeing..even if u are found innocent u cannot flee in the first place and get no charges.
They need to give him any jail time possible -he is such a loser.
Funny how he views being labeled as Child Pornographer as more offensive than Child Killer, and Child Killer as more offensive than Child Molester. He wants to be remembered as JB's Lover, as if she told him to do disgusting things to her!!!:doh: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
 
Hiya LinasK,

Great, interesting thoughts! He didn't fight extradition to CO, BUT he is fighting it to CA. Now why...??

My guess is that:

1. even though JMK is, "sadly tetched" (in my opinion). that he was not so tetched as to NOT know that he was playing a big game with adults in CO and that it was highly entertaining to him for some reason (pulling the wool over other eyes, getting lots of attention, maybe setting the stage for some type of grandstanding he might be able to do at some point, living his fantasy etc.), BUT

2. that he also "knows" (or suspects) that the State of CA has him on the midsdemeanors (and/or maybe more, once they re-search his hard drive), OR at least, DEFINITELY, the Fugitive from Justice thing.

In other words, perhaps the "pedophile-with-a-cause," Peter Pan kinda fantasy was great for him, giving him much "mind candy" to chew on, but going to CA is going to slip him back into "big boy panties" and the adult world again.

Didn't JMK say that he couldn't relate to adults? Unfortunately, returning to jail in CA may put him back into a cell "with an adult" who has little respect for his past and/or his cause.

At one point, I thought that, perhaps, JMK was railroaded with the 5 misdemeanor counts - i.e. maybe it was a setup so that they could investigate him further per his blab pertaining to JBR. I have no clue on that now, BUT JMK surely does (plus what might be found in his deletions on the hard drive.) He also knows that the FFJ charge remains, without a doubt, AND that he will have to walk through the "unglorious" weeks and months of incarceration while evidence is gathered and judgements are made, then whatever term he may be given.

Per the FFJ charge:
http://www.courttv.com/news/ramsey/docs/fugitivecomplaint.html

AND BTW, did anyone read this recently:
30 men seized in Petaluma sex sting

Let's hope that JMK doesn't room in with a pedophile buddy during his incarceration (too much fun), but rather with a very straight fellow.

Interestingly, I think that the bail for those arrested in the pedophile sting was only set at $30K - yet JMK's was set at $100K in 2001. I'm sure there is a good reason for this, I'd like to hear it.

And away we go with "my" tax dollars working to deal with JMK. I hope that someone is a good investor with these, investing little and gaining much. I am sick at heart and sad inside about JMK, and hope for a healing for him someday (although I don't know whether healing can be had), but I really do not want him to be out scaring, endangering, injuring or slaughtering any of our little lambs along a route to possible healing. I would rather there was a way to contain him such that nothing OTHER than healing could occur.

Wouldn't it be cool if this whole fiasco would set off a thinker who could propose a "real way" to prevent "tainted people" from hurting children? Had that been done some 50 years ago, I could have been spared many years of pain, as could my elder brother who is now "working on behalf of children" in the geographical area where JMK will now be thrust.

W
 
But what is really interesting comes from yesterday's court hearing and possible evidence in Karr's lap-top computer. It was said that he suddenly looked green and quite unwell {my poetic license, but the same meaning ;} when it was said Ca is going to go through everything he has in that computer! There is a feeling there might be much, much more disturbing info there on which possible other crimes, and even federal charges might be in the making!

Yes yes yes, he was described as being very very very upset when he realized, his 'stuff' as in computer from Thailand, was not being returned to him.

I'll betcha Mr, Highpants, is messin those pants today! :cool:

OMG what secrets are in there? :eek: One thing, he must be sane enough to be skeeeerred being green and all . :behindbar

Just in: According to CTTV, he is calm and just sitting there and not talking to anyone!
 
Yes, Jeana! You have a talent for often reminding me of interesting things!

I think it was Rita that pointed out this morning what a slight body he has. Almost nothing to him, as she put her hands out and gave a measurment of about 10" or so. I guess it is the impression he gives one where everything about him is slight. Certainly not much of anything worth losing, as far as society is concerned.

Boy, that sounds bad, but if I were Madame Tusard and his head came rolling off the guillitine towards me, I'd probably put my foot out to stop it and keep on with my knitting!~

Scandi
 
scandi said:
Yes, Jeana! You have a talent for often reminding me of interesting things!

I think it was Rita that pointed out this morning what a slight body he has. Almost nothing to him, as she put her hands out and gave a measurment of about 10" or so. I guess it is the impression he gives one where everything about him is slight. Certainly not much of anything worth losing, as far as society is concerned.

Boy, that sounds bad, but if I were Madame Tusard and his head came rolling off the guillitine towards me, I'd probably put my foot out to stop it and keep on with my knitting!~

Scandi


Thanks!!!! I'm glad I've finally found my talent!! LOL I think he'll make a very convincing woman. And I'm sort of sorry that he's going to go through with the surgery, IF they don't find anything else to charge him with, because I tend to very much support people who feel the surgery necessary because I believe its a birth defect situation, but for this little puke of a man, its just obscene. He's going to use his new found "womanness" to abuse more children and it makes me sick. They'll be even easier to get close to what they perceive is a female.
 
Yea, I figure he'll do 2 of 5 years in the joint and probably be out soon after that, unless they can augment the charges. He's probably feeling a little less sensitive right now, and bet he doesn't even swoon for the guards at this point. Bet his boobies are geting flatter by the day now. LOL

I saw a couple of his friends, a couple, on TV, and he commented to the gal acquaintance years ago that all men have a little bit of 'gay' in them. He must think that about himself, don't you think? I am really hard nosed, and think it should be unacceptable for a pedophile to have transgender surgery. It's ludicrus!

Scandi
 

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