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    Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 - #11

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    Currently, we are considering Allison's husband to be a suspected person of interest in this case. There is a possible second party involved per MSM and it is okay to discuss that aspect, but please refrain from accusing anyone of murder at this juncture. Speculating is one thing, accusing is another.


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    Police continue inquiry into Allison Baden-Clay's murder despite having suspect

    "Any investigation requiring forensic testing adheres to its own process and timeframes depending on the amount of evidence requiring testing and the nature of these tests," the spokesman said.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/q...-1226361621268

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    Re GBC's crash at the shopping centre the car would of hit a metal post followed by a concrete pillar therefore putting two sets of damage to the front of the car,might make it harder to spot earlier damage,so maybe a deliberate choice to crash there than hitting a random tree or parked car.
    Thats if there was any damage on this vehicle,more likely he was scared of police interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profplum View Post
    Re GBC's crash at the shopping centre the car would of hit a metal post followed by a concrete pillar therefore putting two sets of damage to the front of the car,might make it harder to spot earlier damage,so maybe a deliberate choice to crash there than hitting a random tree or parked car.
    Thats if there was any damage on this vehicle,more likely he was scared of police interview.
    I wonder if it hid the marks where this car may have hit someone a couple of days earlier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profplum View Post
    Re GBC's crash at the shopping centre the car would of hit a metal post followed by a concrete pillar therefore putting two sets of damage to the front of the car,might make it harder to spot earlier damage,so maybe a deliberate choice to crash there than hitting a random tree or parked car.
    Thats if there was any damage on this vehicle,more likely he was scared of police interview.
    IMO this guy was either trying to do himself in, couldn't concentrate because of impending police interview or needed an excuse to get out of interview. I prefer the last scenario. I doubt he was trying to hide any evidence on the car. According to a previous post the car belonged to friends of Allison and GBC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profplum View Post
    Re GBC's crash at the shopping centre the car would of hit a metal post followed by a concrete pillar therefore putting two sets of damage to the front of the car,might make it harder to spot earlier damage,so maybe a deliberate choice to crash there than hitting a random tree or parked car.
    Thats if there was any damage on this vehicle,more likely he was scared of police interview.
    Possibly but not that likely

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozazure
    I really hoped Toni McHugh was helping to the best of her ability. Seems to me if you were, you'd have a carefully crafted comment vs the no comment. "Toni is distraught about the tragic murder of Allison Baden-Clay and is cooperating with police enquiries, and is hoping for a quick resolution for Allison's family and friends". Feel free to use it Toni, if it is any way true.

    Yes. She's devastated to be linked to the murder, but can't bring herself to deny involvement or express sympathy? I'd be shouting it from the rooftops.

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    The latest article really does name the suspect/s without using names, don't you think? I feel an arrest is imminent. I just wish we knew whose CRV it was that was crashed.


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    Have heard through a source sources that a person that GBC was having an affair with had a complete obsession with ABC and was even at the stalking phase.
    Have also heard that this person and GBC are guilty of the murder and that the police are simply getting all of the evidence in order. If this sort of activity was going on it certainly explains why GBC would have had abrasions before the Thursday night, especially if ABC knew anything about the obsessive behaviour of one of his other partners.

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    Morning!

    I've been thinking about the scratches on GBC at the cross country. I've never been in a violent situation so would be interested in input - but I would think one would only scratch a man's face in self defence right? I can't imagine just lashing out and scratching his face in an argument - pushing yes, slapping the face maybe, but clawing and scratching his face?

    Just wondering if he had tried to strangle Allison in the days leading up to her disappearance that's all. And she had scratched him at that time too, trying to get him off her. Would explain the comment of the friend who saw Allison looking vacant and sad at the shops in the days prior.

    Just my speculation, but I think scratching is a self defence action? If this is the case, oh how I wish she had spoken to someone about it There is a lesson for us all there.

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    The only problem I personally have with the theory of TM being actively involved is that I haven't seen a report that her home/car were searched...


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    Quote Originally Posted by xfiles View Post
    IMO this guy was either trying to do himself in, couldn't concentrate because of impending police interview or needed an excuse to get out of interview. I prefer the last scenario. I doubt he was trying to hide any evidence on the car. According to a previous post the car belonged to friends of Allison and GBC.

    Being a Brisbane local who regularly goes to Indooroopilly Shopping Centre I would think this "accident" was a deliberate ploy to get out of the interview. If he really wanted to make it genuine he could have picked a myriad of other places on the way to the police state that would make it seem more real. Also where he crashed is not accessible by cars, i.e. they have to go into the bus station to crash and all locals know you can't go there and he has gone right to head to the shopping centre whilst avoiding the police station slightly further down the road on the left side. Seems very strange to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixsence View Post
    Have heard through a source sources that a person that GBC was having an affair with had a complete obsession with ABC and was even at the stalking phase.
    Have also heard that this person and GBC are guilty of the murder and that the police are simply getting all of the evidence in order. If this sort of activity was going on it certainly explains why GBC would have had abrasions before the Thursday night, especially if ABC knew anything about the obsessive behaviour of one of his other partners.
    I have suspicions that it is not TM but someone else......but not allowed to post initials that are based purely on my own research.

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