chicoliving
Former Member
Continue to post and discuss your theories here. Leave the attacks and off topic chit chat at the door.
That would leave Caylee dead at most 1 hour 20 min. Possibly not enough time for the dogs to make a hit.
So, Casey goes to Caylee, and she is dead. What would she do with her then? Maybe put her directly in the trunk? It's possible she brought her into the house, but the dogs didn't hit there. However, it was a month later when the dogs were there.
We would be at app. 3:05 at earliest. That gives her 30 minutes to get over it, call AL at 3:35, and be driving away from the house by 4:18.
I just don't know. Physically, it would be possible to do this in the time available, but wow.
Lanie
I am not sure I am following you here Lanie when you say she may not have been dead long enough for the dogs to make a hit.
If you are talking about the backyard, I believe she was carried back there on the 18th with the intent of being buried.
I am not sure I am following you here Lanie when you say she may not have been dead long enough for the dogs to make a hit.
If you are talking about the backyard, I believe she was carried back there on the 18th with the intent of being buried.
I will throw another possibility out there that probably has been mentioned already - none of my material is ever all that original, after all.
Assembling what I have read here recently, if KC did drive around with Caylee until she fell asleep at nap time and went home, it is possible she left a sleeping Caylee in the car. Suppose she came back to the home around 1:45, started taking some stuff out of the car and carrying them into the house, and calls Amy at the same time. The call with Amy lasts 36 minutes. Sometime during that period KC gets on the computer. Perhaps Amy said "OMG girl, you have to see what so-and-so just wrote on their Facebook" and KC rushed in to fire up the computer and see what it was.
Long conversation, lots of computer activity - major distraction.
KC remains distracted through the Jesse conversation. Then George calls and and during the brief conversation mentions Caylee's name, and suddenly KC remembers leaving Caylee in the car.
Just a thought.
What do you make of the alleged 2 hits in the backyard then JWG? Any thoughts on whether these both would have occurred on the same day or not?
Temperature at 1:45 PM was 92F. Went up to 94F by 2:30. 90F at 2:55.
According to this website, lethal internal temperature can be reached in 10 minutes when the ambient air temperature is 90F. "Cracking" the windows makes little difference.
Note also that 51% of the deaths studied were due to the caregiver forgetting they left the child in the car.
Nothing to back it up, but sometimes...just to give myself a painless, non-horrific scenario, I try to convince myself that Casey put the car in the garage to conceal it while she was @ home (since she wasn't supposed to be there) and may have just put Caylee back in her seat to leave...started the car to cool it down w/ A/C or just ran back into the house to get some things...and Caylee sucumbed to the carbon monoxide. Owing to her smaller body scale Casey may've noticed the fumes, but, it does little more than maybe make her dizzy and she shrugs it off and just figures Caylee fell asleep again and, hey...that's just a bonus in Casey's eyes...why ruin a good thing and try to wake her now?!?!?
Flurry of calls all related to "we won't be home" or "ZFG can't sit tonight and I gotta work" or something similar....and...late Monday PM narcissistic-Casey finally decides Caylee's slept too long...and Casey's all-'bout me just might fit this otherwise-ridiculous line of thinking/action.
Note also that 51% of the deaths studied were due to the caregiver forgetting they left the child in the car.
I wonder if Casey could have been hiding out at the abandoned Gonzalez house, waiting for her dad to leave for work? Could this be why the PI's were searching there?
BondJamesBond, I posted a similar theory about carbon monoxide about a week ago with no replies. Basing it on an almost all-nighter for KC on her phone, sleep-deprived, etc., that she leaves Caylee in the car, while in the house & loses track of time. If that took place, she may have grabbed her & ran to the pool to cool her down/revive her so to speak. The ladder was left up, pool box containing shock & pool chemicals, had been moved & the gate was open. How would carbon monoxide show up in tests, or combined with chlorine from the pool? Just a thought!
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It's all possible but it seems strange that if she was using this home as a hide-out, that no one would have noticed??? None of the neighbors would have seen her come and go???
Doesn't CM poisioning make the skin cherry red? Seeing the hightened flush on Caylee, KC could have assumed it was the heat and tried the pool to cool her off. Just trying to help the story along. Don't think it really happened this way though.
I am intrigued by these recent theories about napping in the car and passing that way. I could see this happening, leaving her to nap in the car and redness of the face (from heat is more likely IMO) causing a panic and a dunk into the pool before realising the awful truth.
but again and again and again Casey ruins all the theories with not calling 911 and her cold horrible behaviour afterwards. I go with the flow mentally in accident scenarios til that first phone call from jail pops into my head.
you know, if she had changed her behaviour in any way that friends or family noticed, even one crying spell one time, I would keep thinking this had to be an accident. yes there were the nightmares, late in june, and the fact that they were late in june makes me think they were about the decomposition and not grief.
The facts that I know as of this date over and over point to a deliberate death no matter how much I still naively wish it to have been an accident.
I am intrigued by these recent theories about napping in the car and passing that way. I could see this happening, leaving her to nap in the car and redness of the face (from heat is more likely IMO) causing a panic and a dunk into the pool before realising the awful truth.
but again and again and again Casey ruins all the theories with not calling 911 and her cold horrible behaviour afterwards. I go with the flow mentally in accident scenarios til that first phone call from jail pops into my head.
you know, if she had changed her behaviour in any way that friends or family noticed, even one crying spell one time, I would keep thinking this had to be an accident. yes there were the nightmares, late in june, and the fact that they were late in june makes me think they were about the decomposition and not grief.
The facts that I know as of this date over and over point to a deliberate death no matter how much I still naively wish it to have been an accident.
This scenerio, has played out in my mind many times...I am trying to triangulate a bit on when KC returned home on the 16th and fit it into the possibility that Caylee died in the car.
GA says he last saw Caylee around 12:50 PM when she and KC left for "work". Cell pings indicate they stayed in the vicinity. Desktop and laptop computer activity cease during this period of time, supporting the notion KC is not at the Anthony home.
Very light computer activity occurs between 1 and 2 PM on the laptop. Then very heavy computer activity occurs between 2 and 3 PM on the desktop. The activity seems to be indicative of KC being on the two computers and not GA. This further implies KC returned to the home just before 2 PM and had enough time to do a small amount of work on the laptop after returning, and later hitting the desktop. GA was not around, so he likely had left for work.
When did GA start work? I have heard 2 PM, and I have heard 3 PM. Travel time for GA was about 20 minutes, so unless he was doing errands before work, he would not be leaving until about half an hour before work. I think the computer evidence supports GA leaving the home before 2 PM, probably because his job started then on that day.
KC calls Amy at 1:45 and speaks with her until 2:21. Sometime between 1:45 and 2 PM, KC is back at her parents. Where is Caylee?
Now we can flesh this out with some speculation:
- Caylee falls asleep soon after leaving the A's because it is nap time. KC occupies herself with Tony texting somewhere near the A's, maybe Lee's...maybe the elementary school.
- KC calls Amy at 1:45, then while on the phone, heads back to the A's.
- KC and a sleeping Caylee arrive at the A's just before 2. KC grabs a few items from the car but is otherwise deep into her conversation with Amy. She sees a sleeping Caylee and notes to herself that she needs to come back out immediately and get Caylee and take her to bed.
- While inside Amy says something that prompts KC to flip open the laptop. Next she starts up the desktop. She and Amy talk and surf real time until 2:20 PM.
- KC is sucked into the computer by now and uses it heavily until JG calls a half hour later at 2:53 PM.
- KC and JG converse intently until KC gets a very rare call from GA at 3:04 PM. KC takes the call. Sometime during the conversation GA says "Caylee", and a little light bulb goes off in KC's head. "Caylee ..."
- KC gets off the phone with her dad as she rushes out to the car...
As a mom who can get distracted on the computer, see addiction thread :angel:, if something happened to one of my dc...I would call 911 immediately.
I don't buy the accident theories...UNLESS...KC is soooo into herself she didn't want the death to spoil her life.