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    Quote Originally Posted by lonetraveler View Post
    I agree with you on that one. Whereever he was driving around with the children, they would need to go to the restroom, he would probably have to change a diaper (one of the children was pretty young), feed them, maybe buy gas. Hopefully, someone will come forward who saw them.
    If he paid for gas, food, or lodging using his debit/credit card, there will be a record.

    If he used his cell, though for now it appears he either turned it off or left it at home, there will be also a record of pings(showing the phone was at home) or calls (even if he was out of range or had it off.)
    Last edited by Lipin One; 12-12-2009 at 07:34 PM. Reason: To clear stuff up.

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    The father is asking to stop focusing on the husband. Hmmm...

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_13985165?source=most_viewed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lipin One View Post
    If he paid for gas, food, or lodging using his debit/credit card, there will be a record.

    If he used his cell, though for now it appears he either turned it off or left it at home, there will be also a record of pings or calls, even if he was out of range.
    A friend talked to him at 3PM on Sunday when he was driving with the kids so he had a phone. Probably turned it off.
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    Just a thought...

    I wonder how long Josh was out of work (since he was going to start a new job on Monday?)

    what had he been doing/contributing?

    he had a real estate website...but wasn't selling real estate

    he had a super "home -made" looking "marketing" website that proposed it would help companies develop an "image"...when the website itself looks like a teen made it in 1998

    Tensions rise when changes occur....maybe Josh didn't want to start his new "real" job?? Maybe his wife put out some ultimatums?

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    I'm just so pizzed I haven't even been able to post here! GDI! This idiot's story has to be the worst one yet.

    No doubt LE is checking where Josh's cell phone pinged when he was "camping." I just have a gut feeling Susan is closer to home than he wants them to believe.

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    Family of missing West Valley mom says speculation about husband does no good

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...esnt-help.html
    What lies behind you and what lies in front of you pales in comparison to what lies inside of you....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fran View Post
    Things are mounting up.............anyone else?


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    1. Husband not the one who reported victim missing.

    2. Husband had 'odd' alibi, ie going camping in sub-zero temperartures, late at night, leaving sick wife home alone in bed, and taking two toddlers, pre five yo's into the freezing winter night.

    3. Change of story details, here and there or becoming evasive.

    4. Avoiding media contact.

    5. Avoiding media questions, ie "Is that where you went camping?" to which he replies, "I have to pick up my boys."

    6. Avoids wife-victim's family.

    7. Stops talking to LE

    8. Concerned with 'his house.'

    9. Speaks of victim in 'past-tense.'

    10. Speaks of 'buying new clothes and comforter.'

    11. Unexplained 'wet spot' in carpeting and 'fans being used to dry.'

    12. Gradual release of 'friends and family' speaking of marital problems.

    13. Alleged from 'friends' of husband having control issues, which included control of wife ie victim.

    14. Alleged from 'friends' of 'verbal abuse' by husband of victim.

    15. Alleged statement by one of the children (ok, possibly rumor) "Daddy said mommy stayed in the woods for awhile."

    16. Spoke to neighbor about 'hope his bird isn't dead' but didn't talk about his missing wife.

    17. Testing generator late at night on camping trip

    18. Sledding in the dark?

    19. Near frost bitten hands.

    20. Just the sheer distance of the alleged camp site (3 or 4 hours drive)

    21. NOT one sign of husband camping where he said he was.

    22. Just plain talking about 'himself,' rather than his missing wife!!!!!!!!

    23. No sign of forced entry of home.

    24. Friends and neighbors said it was unusual for Josh to suddenly go camping late at night with the children in the freezing weather.


    *Blue are added as the case developes and Websleuthers mention them


    REASONS NOT TO LOOK TOWARDS HUSBAND

    1. Josh said he didn't harm Susan.

    2. Susan's dad said to stop looking at husband, he didn't harm his daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LogicalMinds View Post
    Just a thought...

    I wonder how long Josh was out of work (since he was going to start a new job on Monday?)

    what had he been doing/contributing?

    he had a real estate website...but wasn't selling real estate

    he had a super "home -made" looking "marketing" website that proposed it would help companies develop an "image"...when the website itself looks like a teen made it in 1998

    Tensions rise when changes occur....maybe Josh didn't want to start his new "real" job?? Maybe his wife put out some ultimatums?
    I was surprised I heard on NG's show Josh was about to start a new job -- mainly because I'd read this

    <snip>

    3:16pm - Fri Dec 11th, 2009

    I personally work with Josh right now. He works for a distribution company in Salt Lake City in the IT department.


    http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148...&comments=true


    There's times that I believe postings on websites over what NG's show announces, because too often they don't get the facts right. JMOOOC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harleysnana View Post
    Something that just hit me when I re read this....
    We have "fast Sunday" which is usually the first Sunday of the month.
    Unless his ward did something out of the ordinary then IMO that Sunday
    they would have been fasting....
    You usually break the fast with dinner.
    So I agree.... he knew it was Sunday!
    JMO
    Wow! And he made dinner that night because Susan was in bed with an ear-ache!

    It was UNUSUAL for him to make dinner too so he MUST remember!

    Good find Harleysnana!

    Oh,...........................wait, ........................we're not supposed to be looking at Josh.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mysticrose View Post
    Family of missing West Valley mom says speculation about husband does no good

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...esnt-help.html
    Can't help but think Laci's & Lori's parents who stood by their son-in-law -- until their hearts were broken by reality.

    I'd like to know if LE told the family that JP was doing everything asked of him & was cooperating, or if that's what JP told them.

    I feel really bad for them, because all they can really do right now is hope for the best & that includes not thinking the worst about JP.
    What we are doing is just a drop in the ocean.
    But if that drop was not in the ocean,
    I think the ocean would be less because of that missing drop.
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    IIRC, a friend was able to get Josh on his cell phone on Monday. The friend informed him that the family was being looked for. It took Josh two hours to get home after the phone call. So he could have been as close as two hours away. God she could be anywhere. I sure hope there are some phone pings.

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    new article & video -- but not really any new info

    http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-po...,6156360.story
    What we are doing is just a drop in the ocean.
    But if that drop was not in the ocean,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Mist View Post
    Can't help but think Laci's & Lori's parents who stood by their son-in-law -- until their hearts were broken by reality.

    I'd like to know if LE told the family that JP was doing everything asked of him & was cooperating, or if that's what JP told them.

    I feel really bad for them, because all they can really do right now is hope for the best & that includes not thinking the worst about JP.
    They may have told him JP is cooperating but perception is everything.

    The FACT is he had an appointment with LE to talk to them on Friday and he was a 'NO SHOW.'

    IF he was in fact 'fully cooperating,' he would have been at HQ Friday IF not sooner.

    His wife is missing for crying-out-loud. Time is of the essence. Unless he knows something we don't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mysticrose View Post
    Family of missing West Valley mom says speculation about husband does no good

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...esnt-help.html
    I just saw this and I would tell the brother that people will stop speculating when Josh tells the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adnoid View Post
    I predict one surfaces in...4 days. Feel free to post your own guesses, but something tells me one will surface.


    I cast my vote for Susan's "best friend".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovejac View Post
    I cast my vote for Susan's "best friend".
    was she the one who got a hold of him on his cell phone on Monday after no one else could reach him? If so, I agree with your vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SharetheLight View Post
    was she the one who got a hold of him on his cell phone on Monday after no one else could reach him? If so, I agree with your vote.
    I agree with Lovejac too.

    Why does he answer the phone THEN but at no other time in the night when people were calling him. Seems Josh was BUSY. If he really cared about his wife sick at home he would have 1) stayed home with her 2) if he just HAD to leave that night at midnight and go camping he would/should have kept the freaking phone on in case she needed him.

    With this id!ot's stories it is no wonder there is speculation as to what he may have had to do with the fact that his wife is missing without her car, purse, and cell phone, and most importantly, HER CHILDREN that she loved very much.
    Last edited by nursebeeme; 12-12-2009 at 08:20 PM.
    This bee my opinion

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    Any mom's out there? Would you let you husband take the kids camping in the cold, especially a one year old in diapers? I would not.

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    Does the family not want to know information from the LAST PERSON who saw Susan? That would be JP. And they don't want any speculation? They seem to not realize how crucial it is that he be investigated, if they want to know what happened to Susan, due to that FACT that he was the last person to see her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litlred View Post
    Any mom's out there? Would you let you husband take the kids camping in the cold, especially a one year old in diapers? I would not.
    I'm pretty sure I wouldn't let my one year old go camping period.. If I had one.. camper or not.. there's just too many things to keep track of when they're that age. imo..
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    let us not forget camping at midnight..... ON SUNDAY.
    This bee my opinion

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    also let us not forget a missing quilt and a wet spot drying in the house with fans pointed at it! I mean geeze! I cannot believe there has not been an arrest yet!
    This bee my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litlred View Post
    Any mom's out there? Would you let you husband take the kids camping in the cold, especially a one year old in diapers? I would not.
    Some reports say the baby is 1 year old, some say he's 2.

    Not that it matters much, but personally I would love to have that clear.

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    Vacant Homes

    Having been a realtor, or being one, he knows which homes are vacant and he could've spent the night in one of them.

    The utilities in the vacant home may be turned off, thus the generator he brought with him could've powered a portable heater or furnace that was already in the vacant home (or that he brought with him.)

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    Um silly question here, what does IIRC stand for? i just can't figure that acronym out. Thanks
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