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They seem to have been unable to determine her cause of death...she was found too late. Very sad.
I'm a long-time larger/follower and this is my first post. Please bear with me.
I haven't read all the posts but have been thinking about the "thoroughness" of the search and two recent cases come to mind. I'm unsure of the names...
RSBM. (Respectfully snipped by me)
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Great 1st post!
I hope this gets looked at. But I wonder if she wouldn't already have started experiencing these symptoms earlier on their trip. How could she have kept up that pace and published their blog while feeling depressed, etc?
In the same statement, they said they were uncertain about her physical or mental health. So it did sound like maybe they felt something was wrong.
first post here (be gentle):
did anyone else notice in the article linked below that the homeowner called LE the day after the $20,000 reward was posted? Coincidence?
Leave no stone unturned:
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/02/...dy-found-blocks-from-where-she-was-last-seen/
Deepest sorrow on the loss of a beautiful spirit. Deepest respects to those who will miss her the rest of their lives.
I've thought about this a while, even before L's suicide. I can't help but wonder about L's beautiful clothing and scarfs on her travels. I realize she purchased them cheaply, discarding items along the way, and she had a wonderful sense of dress, but having traveled/backpacked like this, I immediately wondered why she didn't just stay with a few items of clothing from home, which is what most backpackers do. Was L in her own way feeling insecure and trying to draw attention to herself?
I'm not a psychiatrist, and perhaps I am reaching, but I find it ironic that when she left the final day, L was wearing only a T-shirt, jeans, and hiking shoes - not at all the stylist look she presented while traveling.
I'm a long-time larger/follower and this is my first post. Please bear with me.
I haven't read all the posts but have been thinking about the "thoroughness" of the search and two recent cases come to mind. I'm unsure of the names...though I am sure that other sleuthers can remember names,
The first case was the young lady in Sacramento who left a mental health facility on a lunch break (she was not an inpatient but was apparently attending daytime therapy sessions. This poor young girl was in the midst of some type off mental break - her first, and there was obviously concern about her safety and suicidality. There were searches with both dogs and search teams in a pretty clearly specified area, yet she was not found in those searches. It was several weeks later when the family was searching and her mother found the body - she had hanged herself. This was in Sacramento during the summer, with extreme temperatures and she was not found initially.
The second one that comes to mind was in Hawaii where a toung woman was found murdered and her boyfriend was missing, They were unsure if the BF was involved or if he was a victim, so searches were done. The BF was found many months later hanging in a tree near the site where his GF was found. He had left a suicide note admitting that he killed the GF, I'm sure they used dogs in the search and searched thoroughly, yet the body was not found unti someone stumbled across it many months later. These were both extremely warm and humid locations.
Sometimes it seems that something is so well hidden in the trees, the wind is blowing in the wrong direction, etc. We are all human and human/canine errors happen. So, I guess I'm just thinking that sometimes circumstances cause everything to not work out perfectly.
Of course, I admit that sometimes it is ALL human error/laziness, etc. (Lynne S Anderson comes to mind), so I guess we just hope the circumstances, etc. all come together and searches do work the way that they are supposed to!
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Please excuse any typos. I'm on my I Pad and hating it,
That's beautifully said. Your very touching post made me choke upMy condolences to all the family, friends and WSers who care so deeply.
There are so many questions to which we will never have answers. I thought it was interesting that LB and JB seemed to be always together in GR. He said she never went for a walk like that alone before; they would go on long walks together or go to the gym. After 22 months of total togetherness on the road, and almost another month of togetherness back in the states, they were about to end that togetherness.
Like they had a deal to do the two year travel thing and then they were coming home. And she did all the things she was supposed to - he cut her hair, she cut her hair - they started looking for jobs. She had that banner on her fb page and an interview scheduled.
This is in the 2012-12-30 blog post: "We always say, 'Do what makes you happy.' For us, traveling the world makes us happy. "
They looked like best pals and they had a plan to roam for a couple years and then return to Denver. But maybe what made her happy now was the same thing that made her happy at the end of 2012. But it wasn't traveling the world by herself it was with him. So she was giving it her best shot but, as someone said already, faced with having to tell someone "Yes, I want your job" made her think there was no more chance at her version of happiness. That dream was over and she may come to feel she couldn't go forward with the plan anymore.
I will be interested to see if she took the malaria medication with the bad side effects although I don't know if we will ever find that out.
If she killed herself, and I must believe LE knows what they are doing, I think it is somewhat comforting (to me, at least), that she took his backpack with her - to have some part of him and their trip with her at the end.
I really can imagine that Leanne may not have been happy with the prospect of "settling down" after their exciting world travels. I do wonder if she voiced her concerns to Josh and/or her family.
Then again, reading about the side-effects of the drugs she may have taken for their travels.....it seems quite possible there was a connection to her decision to end her life.
What a tragic situation. I can only hope Leanne will RIP and my heart goes out to those left behind.
we don't know why the homeowner picked Feb 13 to "search". We don't even know the reason he went to the back part of his property and whether it constituted a search.
Some are perhaps assuming he went to search.
if I have learned anything on this site, it's not to assume.
I understand that, per the first article I linked, the cause of death is suicide, manner is asphyxiation, pending toxicology reports. It is unclear to me, as of this hour 1 am ET, if those reports are complete.
I would expect they can determine if this was an unassisted suicide, or an involuntary hanging. In either case I can accept their findings and my wholehearted sympathy for the family remains. It is, either way, a hard hard thing to bear.
I've thought about this a while, even before L's suicide. I can't help but wonder about L's beautiful clothing and scarfs on her travels. I realize she purchased them cheaply, discarding items along the way, and she had a wonderful sense of dress, but having traveled/backpacked like this, I immediately wondered why she didn't just stay with a few items of clothing from home, which is what most backpackers do. Was L in her own way feeling insecure and trying to draw attention to herself?
I'm not a psychiatrist, and perhaps I am reaching, but I find it ironic that when she left the final day, L was wearing only a T-shirt, jeans, and hiking shoes - not at all the stylist look she presented while traveling.
About the malaria drug:
Mefloquine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Neuropsychiatric effects are reported with mefloquine use.[2] The FDA product guide states it can cause mental health problems, including anxiety, hallucinations, depression, unusual behavior, and suicidal ideations, among others.[7] Some have reported severe central nervous system events requiring hospitalization in about one in 10,000 people taking mefloquine for malaria prevention, with milder events (e.g., dizziness, headache, insomnia, and vivid dreams) in up to 25%.[8] When some measure of subjective severity is applied to the rating of adverse events, about 11-17% of travelers are incapacitated to some degree.[4]
In July 2013, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued a boxed warning regarding neurologic and psychiatric side effects.[9]
Neurologic side effects of mefloquine can include dizziness, loss of balance, ringing in the ears, convulsions, and insomnia.[10] These effects can occur at any time during drug use, and can last for months to years after the drug is stopped or can be permanent.[9]
Psychiatric side effects can include anxiety, feelings of mistrust towards others (paranoia), seeing or hearing things that are not there (hallucinations), depression, restlessness, confusion, and behavior that is unusual.[10] These psychiatric problems may last for years after the patient stops taking the drug.[1] Mefloquine has been found to act as an agonist at 5-HT2A and 5-HT2C receptors, which are the targets of psychedelic drugs such as LSD, and it has been suggested this may be partly responsible for the neuropsychiatric side effects.[11]