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No prob! The facts and timeline have been confusing in the past 24 hrs. I think some....including me are feeling anxious about the search today.
I'm wondering if the searchers have been instructed to mark possible area if items of clothing or things that just may be connected are found?
Is it right that we now know she simply gave those passports to a friend for safekeeping? Was it just her passport or the passports for the children too? Of course regardless...it could just as easily be argued she was trying to keep HIM from taking the children out of the country. Right?
Is it right that we now know she simply gave those passports to a friend for safekeeping? Was it just her passport or the passports for the children too? Of course regardless...it could just as easily be argued she was trying to keep HIM from taking the children out of the country. Right?
Weren't they in the affidavit?
ETA: May 6, 2011 - Matthew Palmgren files a motion for exclusive use and possession of the couple's home. He also files a restraining order against his wife, and a request for temporary custody of the couple's children. In his affidavit, Matthew Palmgren says his wife had suffered "bouts of depression," was paranoid in days before her disappearance, and had changed pin numbers to bank accounts that contain hundreds of thousands of dollars. He adds he was concerned his wife might try to take their children out of the country.
http://www.wrcbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=14669942
He said he proposed to meet Mrs. Palmgren at the residence on April 30, but when he arrived she was gone, having left the two children "by themselves without any supervision."
http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_200931.asp
Why do we keep calling it a DV call doesn't that stand for domestic violence? I thought they were all verbal altercation calls.
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Correction: Williams went missing from her East Ridge home. Her car and body were found in Sequatchie County.
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Hitchcock says Williams' body was found in wooded area. Too early to tell if foul play is involved. Authorities on scene.
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BREAKING: Missing Sequatchie woman, Nancy Williams, just found dead. Sheriff Hitchcock confirms.
Is there a distinction between the two? Is DV necessarily physical? Seems like verbal altercations could very well lead to physical violence.
That was in the local media, just curious with abandonment statements if anyone had actually seen the affidavit?
Why do we keep calling it a DV call doesn't that stand for domestic violence? I thought they were all verbal altercation calls.
Why do we keep calling it a DV call doesn't that stand for domestic violence? I thought they were all verbal altercation calls.
Is there a distinction between the two? Is DV necessarily physical? Seems like verbal altercations could very well lead to physical violence.
Why do we keep calling it a DV call doesn't that stand for domestic violence? I thought they were all verbal altercation calls.
I think there is a distinction. One can lead to the other but they are not exactly the same. DV is a crime, and a verbal altercation is not always a crime, nor does it necessarily say threats took place. We don't know, exactly what happened. Domestic dispute is what is said here too when physical violence did not take place. When I read DV calls, I take it for granted that there was violence or threat of violence.
I'm not defending MP or saying no DV took place. I just kinda want to go on what we know as far as those phone calls when we are talking factually, and it doesn't sound like that is how they were classified by police.
I think there is a distinction. One can lead to the other but they are not exactly the same. DV is a crime, and a verbal altercation is not always a crime, nor does it necessarily say threats took place. We don't know, exactly what happened. Domestic dispute is what is said here too when physical violence did not take place. When I read DV calls, I take it for granted that there was violence or threat of violence.
I'm not defending MP or saying no DV took place. I just kinda want to go on what we know as far as those phone calls when we are talking factually, and it doesn't sound like that is how they were classified by police.
From Tennessee Code Annotated:
http://www.michie.com/tennessee/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&cp=tncode
36-3-601. Part definitions.
As used in this part, unless the context otherwise requires:
(1) “Abuse” means inflicting, or attempting to inflict, physical injury on an adult or minor by other than accidental means, placing an adult or minor in fear of physical harm, physical restraint, malicious damage to the personal property of the abused party, including inflicting, or attempting to inflict, physical injury on any animal owned, possessed, leased, kept, or held by an adult or minor, or placing an adult or minor in fear of physical harm to any animal owned, possessed, leased, kept, or held by the adult or minor;
AND
39-13-101. Assault.
(a) A person commits assault who:
...
(2) Intentionally or knowingly causes another to reasonably fear imminent bodily injury;
I am NOT a legal expert, but here's the direct quote from T.C.A. that I think helps make clear that domestic assault does not require a physical injury. And, yes, it is a crime.
However, the police may or may not have enough evidence to make an arrest, depending on what they actually see and what the parties tell them. Many abusers can turn it off and on like a switch, proving that YES, they CAN control themselves when that want to.[/QUOTE]
bbm: I have seen this first hand. VERY SCARY. The first time you conciously witness this can be and should be a real deal breaker.
Why do we keep calling it a DV call doesn't that stand for domestic violence? I thought they were all verbal altercation calls.