Caylee Anthony General Discussion Thread #76

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Also, I don't think the ZG story was racially motivated because Casey had many friends that were hispanic and she hung out with a very mixed race crowd. I think it was a name of convenience.
 
yosande said:
I think the heated fight was about Caylee and who the mama is, and Casey took her to prove the point and the unanswered calls also to prove a point on the other side, want help, (in any way, but probably money) bring Caylee back. When the parents didn't answer, she went over and stole the gas, thus saying, help me or I'll help myself, whatcha going to do about it. What did they do? that was the first time LE was contacted.
This is a family dispute, fighting over the little girl. I think Caylee is fine, and Casey isn't going to break under mama's pressure to return her child. Someone has Caylee, the babysitter, but with Casey's permission.
This is jmo.
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I completely disagree. I think that Casey would do anything, but tell the truth, to get her butt out of jail right now. She's not able to hang with her friends and party at the clubs all night. If she ever thought her parents were controlling, she's got a whole new definition of what controlling is now.
 
TripleA, I too think JG is somehow involved. I just cannot decide if he was involved in Caylee's "mystery" or if he was involved or gained knowledge of something else illegal that Casey was doing. I strongly believe that Casey chose her men carefully...there were a lot of them. I think it is pretty convenient that she had a LE officer as a BF. I don't necessarily believe that she was a paid escort, but I think that she was using men for money.
 
If J quit the force on the ...(24th) and we think that ZG was at the apts on the 16-18 maybe he saw her car and got info. Where was he stationed? Anyone know, where was his typical beat?
 
A question regarding the "flurry" of unanswered phone calls on the 16th:

Do we know that Cindy or George did not return the calls later in the day, when they got off work perhaps? Also, how do we know that Casey did not leave a voice mail message?

I'm not surprised that Casey is refusing to allow her family members to visit. She's punishing them. It's all about control.
 
aprilshowers said:
The reason behind these actions are:

There is something deep within us, that won't allow us to believe we are worthy of love or that we are 'anything' at all, since most of our life, we were the 'adult' for our parent or parents.

When you need to be there for THEM, to make THEM happy, to make everything ok for THEM. Us? Well ... I had to put myself last, if I disagreed with my mom, or did or said, anything to hurt her or let her down ... it was as if somebody stabbed me in the heart .. I just COULDN'T.

I was the 'chosen child' and she told everybody that I was SUCH a good daughter, that I was ALWAYS there for her, and that all her other daughters (I have 3 sisters) weren't there for her, and have hurt her .. yet "I" was the loyal one and always there to defend her, and stand by her.

As an adult, it was very very hard to take care of myself emotionally, to put myself first. I had many devastating relationships, that left me feeling even MORE alone and unworthy.

Yes, it's true .. a Borderline can be very hard to love. That's because we require so MUCH love and attention. And that's because we're SO empty.

We don't trust ... if we do, it's one or two people at most, and even have a hard time trusting them.

It's sad actually ... it truly is! I can tell you from my OWN heart, even though it's so very hard to understand us and to keep loving us, we're more broken than you can understand ... in that I mean, broken hearted, our spirit is broken, and we feel so very empty.
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Interesting. I guess you wanted to be loved for YOU... not because your sisters weren't good daughters like you were.



Casey was the baby of the family & pretty spoiled it seems.... maybe she found it hard to compete with Lee? Though they both seem to do quite well in High School & on the social scene.

I tend to think things fell apart when Casey started hanging out at the clubs... the partying took a toll & then as Caylee got older, being a mother became more & more a responsibility that she resented. Yet, she didn't want to admit that... that would prove she's immature & irresponsible... that's why she wouldn't simply leave Caylee at her parent's house.

If her family made one mistake.... it was NOT insisting that Casey hand over part of her (non-existent) paycheck. They could have at least put that money into a bank account for her future. They also should have insisted on knowing the particulars about any person taking care of Caylee..... babysitters or day care.

They gave Casey some 'space' on these 2 things & as we can see with the help of hindsight.... that turned out to be a fatal decision. :(
 
like i said

even her parents would say

"hey, at this point we have nothing to lose, nobody has seen our grandaughter in over 30 days - uhhhh casey your way AINT working lets get the FBI and POLICE and private investigators working on this, tell us everything you know"


she aint talking cause the JIG is up

nobody buying her pack of lies anymore

its over
 
crocus said:
aprilshowers

Was there ever a sense of guilt, shame or remorse?
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I believe you're referring to when I would set up the 'scenarios'?

If that's what you mean, no ... not when I was younger. If it caused people to rescue me or show their loyalty (love), then I was able to get what I needed the most.

That sounds terrible, but trust me when I say .. it's much MORE terrible for us, as we are SO alone within ourselves and SO scared we're not loved, or that we'll be left alone ... that we need this constant reassurance.
 
aprilshowers said:
I'm not really sure any of you are reading this or want me to continue?

Maybe I need to stop for a break and go back and see if anybody is reading. :)
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Please keep posting! I find it very eye-opening in many personal ways!
 
housemouse said:
What if nothing happened to Caylee until late the 17th or early the 18th?

Would anyone care to re-sleuth, but delay the possible time for a day or so? The reason I ask is because of the very short time period between George's leaving for work and the first flurry of phone calls on the 16th. This doesn't seem to be enough time to me. And, I somehow have a hard time thinking that Casey would have done something in the daylight hours. No idea why I feel that way, other than I would think she might want the cover of darkness, and yes, I do think it might have been pre-meditated.
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Possible that Casey left at 1, left Caylee in the car while she was "doing something" and came back to find a deceased Caylee. She could have been waiting for George to leave, ya know parked someplace waiting.....so she could be alone in the backyard to do whatever...and kept making phonecalls to verify mom/dad's location as to not be disturbed while doing it. That same scenerio would repeat itself in a few days when she went to recover caylee from the backyard, thus explaining the 2nd flurry, she was again verifying people's locations. Just another take.....IMO
 
aprilshowers said:
ABSOLUTELY!!!! You hit it RIGHT on the HEAD!

As a matter of fact, one of the biggest expressions of people with Borderline is: The LOST Child
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How terribly sad. So many people try to be friends with their children....not understanding how children need to feel secure in knowing that their parents are stable and strong and giving them protection. I can understand how a child feels when put into the position of having to protect a parent and, at the same time, feeling terrified. So sad. Of course they would grow up needing to be rescued themselves. I get it.
 
Thanks Panthera!

Thanks for the update MIMI2! Well, she certainly thinks she's got the upper hand denying visits. I suspect LE has a psychologist advising them on how to hand Casey Anthony and her family I think are on to her so I doubt she has much of an upper hand.

lostnfound85 Casey figured throwing that in would derail any suspicion of herself but it has made one heck of a red herring.
 
Hisimage said:
If J quit the force on the ...(24th) and we think that ZG was at the apts on the 16-18 maybe he saw her car and got info. Where was he stationed? Anyone know, where was his typical beat?
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Hisimage, I am reposting what I wrote a few pages ago...I thought the same thing!

Aprilshowers, thank you for sharing that with us.

OK, I have another theory to for you all the chew on....

Casey is looking for someone to pin her "mistake" on. So she stakes out Sawgrass, sees a woman that fits her idea of the "ideal" nanny, watches this woman get into her car, writes down the license plate...and

Calls her ex-fiancee Jesse, who is still currently working for LE...asks him "Sweetie would you mind looking up this plate for me...thanks!". She then gets ZFG information, possibly even a disconnected phone #.

Jesse, realizing what he did was wrong/illegal (aiding and abetting?) feels compelled to resign from his job before he is caught...or maybe that's why he got fired....on or around June 24.

Whaddya think???
 
songline said:
But even if they did mean it; if her belief system is to doubt, suspect, not care, or if she is totally self serving, not compassionate, frozen....They can say anything - it would not be the answer to finding caylee. IMHO a professional is needed here.
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Well, I'm not a professional, but I've seen enough in my lifetime, to know more than they do probably. LOL

I will say however, no matter what I did as I went along, I was a good Mom to my 2 sons. I will say I was depressed allot when they were young, but I was always there for them, and loved them with all my heart.

And in saying that ... I will say that I have a niece with this disorder also, and she HAS put her children in jeopardy, not caring .. only for herself, so not everyone is affected the same with this.
 
aprilshowers, I find your posts interesting. It's the personal insight others have shared that help us relate to Casey's non understandable behavior.

Please don't take a non response as people not reading what you are posting. They just may not have anything to add. It's nothing personal.
 
Does anyone have a theory on what the flurry of phone calls were about on the 18th. It seems they were placed sometime after backing into the garage and borrowing the shovel. Maybe she was angry because she discovered she was locked out of the house and the shed? I don't know....
 
I think Caseys refusal to see family it out of being accountable. She has no other lies to spin. She no longer has a story for where Caylee is. They waited for the big day and the big day has come and gone. She is headed for a deep depression because for once she is caught, revealed a huge light is shining on her and she can't get out.
If we don't get anything else from her quick. It is going to be way too late.
 
Well since Casey refused to see her parents, expect a new Cindyism=opinion stated as fact based on no fact, very soon.
 
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