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Part 4
11:33
PROFFER BY JA
Why did you obtain the fire arm? Two reasons - I wanted to go get answers that I believed I could get from individuals that I felt in my mind were responsible for Caylee.
JA: You were going to force them at gun point to tell you?
GA: When he picked up the gun, the 2nd or 3rd of September, the Sheriff's department came to the house, and because ICA was there, told him that they had found out he had purchased the gun and it was in violation of having a gun and alcohol with someone who was incarcerated. It was taken from him
On 1/22/09 were you going to take your life? Yes, and I still have those feelings.
Did you write a note? Yes. He was shown the note and identified it. He agreed it was a true and accurate statement of his thoughts and feelings as of that date.
Have you also sent text messages to friends, lawyer? He knows he sent them and that he called his sisters, mother and father to tell them good by. Told them not to worry (GA breaking down again) He needed at that time to go and be with Caylee because he felt he failed her.
Were you prevented of accomplishing your goal? Yes, if it weren't for LE, he would not be here today.
In that note, did you express some of the unanswered questions you had? I know I did, but I don't know exactly what I wrote. He wrote the note over many hours.
End of proffer.
HHJBP: Objections, JB?
JB: Much is beyond the scope of Direct, don't see the bearing of the gun.
JA: I believe counsel asked the witness about his knowledge of August to January. This is direct rebuttal.
JB: Counsel, please tell me what question you believe.
JA: I rely on the Court.
JB: I could cover the areas - decomp, his behavior with LE at first, behavior on jail video, financial interest, media appearances, abuse and knowledge of duct tape and gas cans.
JA: Questions were not limited to date and scope.
HHJBP: The subject of cross deals with the issue of GA's attempt to commit suicide. The issue of suicide was brought out in the Defense's cross(?) of GA. Those questions are a logical progression in that the gun had a relationship. So the Court will permit this ine of questioning. As I said before, you can mark and have him identify the note. As you know, until it comes into evidence, you can't question him about the contents.
Jury being returned (11:42)
CROSS EXAMINATION OF GA BY JA - continued
Did you purchase a gun in August of 2008?
Yes I did.
OBJECTION - OVERRULED
What was your purpose in purchasing the gun? He wanted answers from people who he thought knew what happened to Caylee.
Before he had a chance to do that, LE found out and came and took the gun away because ICA was home on bond.
On 1/22/09, 6 weeks after remains were found, did you travel to a hotel in Daytona Beach to take your own life? Yes, sir.
Why? He doesn't know why that day. His emotional state, even through today, is very hard to accept he does not have a granddaughter anymore. That day felt like the right time to go be with Caylee.
Did you call relatives?
OBJECTION - OVERRULED
He wanted to talk to his parents, his sisters, his son, his wife - to say goodbye for the last time. He did not recall the conversations. He was supposed to be going to a meeting.
Did you write a letter then? Yes. He was drinking alcohol and taking pills. He wrote the letter to his wife to tell her how he felt and how he didn't want to be in this world anymore.
Did you include questions you had about what happened? He does not remember what he said in the letter. It had numerous pages. He probably repeated himself. He had to express what he was feeling.
You wanted CA to know why you would be dead when she found the letter? Yes, because I couldn't tell her face to face.
He was shown the letter - 8 pages. He recognized it as the letter he wrote to his wife and family as he prepared to take his life.
But for the intervention for LE, you would not be here today?
OBJECTION - relevance and asked and answered - SUSTAINED
JA: I didn't ask in front of the Jury.
That is correct, is it not? Yes.
No further questions.
REDIRECT BY JB
Do you need a break Mr. Anthony? No, I'm fine.
JA asked you about sparring with him at the depo? Yes.
And that sparring ...
OBJECTION - SUSTAINED
Do you recall JA reminding you of your oath? I'm sure he did.
This sparring was to try to pin your answers down on the gas cans?
OBJECTIONS - SUSTAINED
The questions had to do with the gas cans and duct tape? I know we talked about gas cans, duct tape, a lot of things.
The sparring related to the gas cans and duct tape? He guesses it was verbal sparring.
Would you classify my questions today about gas cans as sparring? Yes.
ICA was out on bond when he got the gun. When she came home, they met with a person from the Department of Correction regarding house arrest. The rules were explained. He was given a list of what could and couldn't be in the house. He knew that he couldn't have fire arms in the house and if one was found, she could go right back to jail. Within hours of them pulling up, they were there and they almost took ICA back to jail.
His emotional state when he purchased the gun...
OBJECTION - unresponsive - Listen carefully GA
He did not buy a gun before his daughter got out on bond.
Attempted suicide - you bought a 6 pack of beer? I don't know how much alcohol I purchased. It was beer. The pills were blood pressure pills? I had just gotten them a week before.
So you were drinking beer and blood pressure medication? Whatever it was, I took a large amount of medication along with drinking beer. He doesn't know what was recovered.
All of this was subsequent to 2 search warrants? 12/11/08? He wasn't there.
LE went through a lot of his things? They completely went through the house. They went through YOUR things? Everything in that house was associated with me. Yes, they went through my car.
You know the car was not in the search warrant?
OBJECTION - relevance - OVERRULED
You know your car was not listed and they went through it anyway? Yes.
They went through a lot of your personal things? I wasn't there.
They got the gas can on that day? I don't know.
You were given a property list? He wasn't there when the warrant was served and he can't recall the 70 or so items taken.
As ex LE he knows the warrant should be left at the home.
They took the duct tape on the gas can? He doesn't know.
When you came back from doing the Larry King show on 12/11, did you see that gas can ever again in your home? He did not come back to his home on that date. He doesn't remember when he came back. The house was in shambles. Things were flipped around.
OBJECTION BY JB - narrative - OVERRULED
Did you go to the Ritz Carlton? Yes.
OBJECTION - relevance - SUSTAINED
Came back home before the second search warrant was executed? Yes sir. I was there. He doesn't remember if he saw the gas can on that day.
OBJECTION - items?- SUSTAINED
Lunch recess
11:33
PROFFER BY JA
Why did you obtain the fire arm? Two reasons - I wanted to go get answers that I believed I could get from individuals that I felt in my mind were responsible for Caylee.
JA: You were going to force them at gun point to tell you?
GA: When he picked up the gun, the 2nd or 3rd of September, the Sheriff's department came to the house, and because ICA was there, told him that they had found out he had purchased the gun and it was in violation of having a gun and alcohol with someone who was incarcerated. It was taken from him
On 1/22/09 were you going to take your life? Yes, and I still have those feelings.
Did you write a note? Yes. He was shown the note and identified it. He agreed it was a true and accurate statement of his thoughts and feelings as of that date.
Have you also sent text messages to friends, lawyer? He knows he sent them and that he called his sisters, mother and father to tell them good by. Told them not to worry (GA breaking down again) He needed at that time to go and be with Caylee because he felt he failed her.
Were you prevented of accomplishing your goal? Yes, if it weren't for LE, he would not be here today.
In that note, did you express some of the unanswered questions you had? I know I did, but I don't know exactly what I wrote. He wrote the note over many hours.
End of proffer.
HHJBP: Objections, JB?
JB: Much is beyond the scope of Direct, don't see the bearing of the gun.
JA: I believe counsel asked the witness about his knowledge of August to January. This is direct rebuttal.
JB: Counsel, please tell me what question you believe.
JA: I rely on the Court.
JB: I could cover the areas - decomp, his behavior with LE at first, behavior on jail video, financial interest, media appearances, abuse and knowledge of duct tape and gas cans.
JA: Questions were not limited to date and scope.
HHJBP: The subject of cross deals with the issue of GA's attempt to commit suicide. The issue of suicide was brought out in the Defense's cross(?) of GA. Those questions are a logical progression in that the gun had a relationship. So the Court will permit this ine of questioning. As I said before, you can mark and have him identify the note. As you know, until it comes into evidence, you can't question him about the contents.
Jury being returned (11:42)
CROSS EXAMINATION OF GA BY JA - continued
Did you purchase a gun in August of 2008?
Yes I did.
OBJECTION - OVERRULED
What was your purpose in purchasing the gun? He wanted answers from people who he thought knew what happened to Caylee.
Before he had a chance to do that, LE found out and came and took the gun away because ICA was home on bond.
On 1/22/09, 6 weeks after remains were found, did you travel to a hotel in Daytona Beach to take your own life? Yes, sir.
Why? He doesn't know why that day. His emotional state, even through today, is very hard to accept he does not have a granddaughter anymore. That day felt like the right time to go be with Caylee.
Did you call relatives?
OBJECTION - OVERRULED
He wanted to talk to his parents, his sisters, his son, his wife - to say goodbye for the last time. He did not recall the conversations. He was supposed to be going to a meeting.
Did you write a letter then? Yes. He was drinking alcohol and taking pills. He wrote the letter to his wife to tell her how he felt and how he didn't want to be in this world anymore.
Did you include questions you had about what happened? He does not remember what he said in the letter. It had numerous pages. He probably repeated himself. He had to express what he was feeling.
You wanted CA to know why you would be dead when she found the letter? Yes, because I couldn't tell her face to face.
He was shown the letter - 8 pages. He recognized it as the letter he wrote to his wife and family as he prepared to take his life.
But for the intervention for LE, you would not be here today?
OBJECTION - relevance and asked and answered - SUSTAINED
JA: I didn't ask in front of the Jury.
That is correct, is it not? Yes.
No further questions.
REDIRECT BY JB
Do you need a break Mr. Anthony? No, I'm fine.
JA asked you about sparring with him at the depo? Yes.
And that sparring ...
OBJECTION - SUSTAINED
Do you recall JA reminding you of your oath? I'm sure he did.
This sparring was to try to pin your answers down on the gas cans?
OBJECTIONS - SUSTAINED
The questions had to do with the gas cans and duct tape? I know we talked about gas cans, duct tape, a lot of things.
The sparring related to the gas cans and duct tape? He guesses it was verbal sparring.
Would you classify my questions today about gas cans as sparring? Yes.
ICA was out on bond when he got the gun. When she came home, they met with a person from the Department of Correction regarding house arrest. The rules were explained. He was given a list of what could and couldn't be in the house. He knew that he couldn't have fire arms in the house and if one was found, she could go right back to jail. Within hours of them pulling up, they were there and they almost took ICA back to jail.
His emotional state when he purchased the gun...
OBJECTION - unresponsive - Listen carefully GA
He did not buy a gun before his daughter got out on bond.
Attempted suicide - you bought a 6 pack of beer? I don't know how much alcohol I purchased. It was beer. The pills were blood pressure pills? I had just gotten them a week before.
So you were drinking beer and blood pressure medication? Whatever it was, I took a large amount of medication along with drinking beer. He doesn't know what was recovered.
All of this was subsequent to 2 search warrants? 12/11/08? He wasn't there.
LE went through a lot of his things? They completely went through the house. They went through YOUR things? Everything in that house was associated with me. Yes, they went through my car.
You know the car was not in the search warrant?
OBJECTION - relevance - OVERRULED
You know your car was not listed and they went through it anyway? Yes.
They went through a lot of your personal things? I wasn't there.
They got the gas can on that day? I don't know.
You were given a property list? He wasn't there when the warrant was served and he can't recall the 70 or so items taken.
As ex LE he knows the warrant should be left at the home.
They took the duct tape on the gas can? He doesn't know.
When you came back from doing the Larry King show on 12/11, did you see that gas can ever again in your home? He did not come back to his home on that date. He doesn't remember when he came back. The house was in shambles. Things were flipped around.
OBJECTION BY JB - narrative - OVERRULED
Did you go to the Ritz Carlton? Yes.
OBJECTION - relevance - SUSTAINED
Came back home before the second search warrant was executed? Yes sir. I was there. He doesn't remember if he saw the gas can on that day.
OBJECTION - items?- SUSTAINED
Lunch recess
