Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 #18

[squizzey1]

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You do not have to answer a question like that anyway. To me it doesn't really matter which of the above.

 

[UnfoldingTruth]

cant say for sure but I believe he hasnt any mental issues. just hearsay from a witness but no reason to doubt it

Thats ok, just clarifys thing alittle, as it was a question in my mind as I said.. I know you probably may not know for fact.. but helps anyway.

 

[Mothergoose]

I have read three posts (since I became a member of this forum) that stand as being very damning IF TRUE. IMO I must say that the three statements are from second hand information and not by the people witnessing the events.

1- Someone stated a local saw NBC at the bus shelter late at night, looking unsettled , the night Allison disappeared.
2-.Someone stated police were seen by a neighbor at the GBC house around 9pm the night she disappeared.This neighbor subsequently found out the police had been called to a domestic dispute that night.
3-Someone stated that GBC and NBC were washing the cars when the police arrived at 7:30 am the morning he reported her missing.
These three posts if true (please don't ask me to find them) are the only things that I have read so far that hold and weight in my leaning towards GBC and NBC being the key players. Any thoughts? All MOO of course

 

[Caviar]

Do we know for sure this damage to the car was not from a completely unrelated incident?
Perhaps it has been found to have nothing to do with allisons murder which is why it has now been released.

Just putting it out there. Can any locals remember when they last saw the car around and whether it was damaged/undamaged?

I might have missed others questioning this already. This is just what I first think of when I read the article/indromums post about the damage. I just thought I wonder if its from an accident unrelated.
I think nothing of him not commenting on it to the media. Hes been like that the whole time. He may have told the police what happened to it.
Just because I think this doesn't mean I don't still suspect him of allisons murder...

Hope this post makes sense.. Really should get back to work

I haven't read all posts yet, so apologise if already covered...

GBC had a car crash down Moggill Road, near the Taringa C21 offices the week before Allison went missing. When I mentioned it to my friend who worked there, they described where the damage was and looked like without me even telling them. So, 99.9% sure this was caused by that accident.

 

[Seeking]

Like someone from Sydney who wasn't used to driving that sort of car in those sort of conditions? hwow:

Possibly or someone completely different that we are unaware of.

 

[UnfoldingTruth]

I haven't read all posts yet, so apologise if already covered...

GBC had a car crash down Moggill Road, near the Taringa C21 offices the week before Allison went missing. When I mentioned it to my friend who worked there, they described where the damage was and looked like without me even telling them. So, 99.9% sure this was caused by that accident.

thanks for that info Caviar..perhaps the damage to the car had nothing to do with Allisons murder or what happened on that night then.

 

[Bayside]

Yep one of them. As I said some posts back I have to be careful here. Suffice to say VERY closely related ok

Please dont ever feel pushed into saying anything you are not comfy with. I know everybody wants to know things right now esp with so little concrete info being released.

 

[JK673]

Gerard has lost a lot of facebook friends the last 24 hours or so.
The pressure cooker feeling must be extreme right now.

While you guys are sleeping I had a little look at Aussiecrims. Haven't had time to read many of the posts there but this one was certainly interesting.
I can only copy and paste 10% so if you want to continue reading there is a link below.

Redback1 says:
June 5, 2012 at 12:51 am

I want to address the bridge body dump versus washed downstream theory.

I was a scout and I camped at Tyampolum scout campsite. I know the terrain, kholo creek and bridge, i grew up in the area and basically know the locational geography of this case very well.

I have been closely following this case like alot of people up and down the country.

I know the body was dumped over the railings of the Kholo bridge and not dumped upstream and washed down there in the rains – and I know the police know this.

One snippet the police have revealed is information relating to vehicle activity at the Kholo bridge based on an appeal for information.

http://m.news.com.au/QLD/pg/0/fi1555845.htm

http://aussiecriminals.com.au/2012/...or Aussie Criminals and Crooks)#comment-32147

The post is close to the bottom by Redbank at 1251am.

This is what I have thought all along, it is logical.........and simple not like other CSI:New York theories that have been bandied around here. Had a day's break from reading this and not even reading the rest of Thread 17 that I have missed.

Use the K-I-S-S theory - I am sure the person we all think is responsible did - can't see any intelligent thought from that person, that is why the KISS principle fits.

 

[Bayside]

I haven't read all posts yet, so apologise if already covered...

GBC had a car crash down Moggill Road, near the Taringa C21 offices the week before Allison went missing. When I mentioned it to my friend who worked there, they described where the damage was and looked like without me even telling them. So, 99.9% sure this was caused by that accident.

He sure is having some bad luck lately.

 

[UnfoldingTruth]

Food for thought.
GBC is a Mac user (heresay)
To clear a Mac with 1 terrabyte hard drive to US Military Standard takes seven passes and approximately 27 hours. (Information from a Mac specialist).
IMO if GBC had the knowledge and was INDEED a mac user, he would have had time to erase his hard drive sufficiently if the crime scene was not declared until Saturday morning. My hunch was that the family photos were on an external hard drive or another computer.

Just a thought on that , It has been reported police declared a crimescene the Friday morning. But also the photos were on one of the computers or hard drives the police had seized as GBC had to go to the police station to get the pics for the funeral. Also-it is 2nd hand info- but there was apparently some legal searches on the computer that were from the Thursday night. So apparently the police were able to retrieve this info. (this has been posted previously on other threads)

 

[Blue Bottle]

I am merely suggesting that there would be people willing to go to great lengths to view the family on their property. Some people have no respect for acceptable boundaries. I would protect my privacy and my children's to the nth degree if it were me.

Blocking windows from spying eyes might make the girls feel more comfortable given the interest in their lives. Who knows?

I'm almost certain there would be extra traffic in the area in spite it being, by the sounds, a fairly busy place at times. Just going by some posts, not just here, but in other sites too, some have said they have driven past and slowed down and even used the driveway to turn around.

I agree that the extra attention (probably at odd hours of day and night and on weekends) wouldn't be so great for the girls if they were at home. Even if the house was set back far and bushy, some people have the nerve to jump a fence or go up driveways for a look see.

As far as google pictures go... and naturally, this is as I see it and all that cropula.... well, to me google pics look like when you're either buying or selling a house. The pictures look out of context to distance and it often enough looks bushier and sometimes quite different when you see the same place for real...

 

[frustrated detective]

That's not a scratch on the side - that's where the wheel arch has become unattached from the flares and there's just no paint there. same as on the front, where there is a crease in the mental and it's been pushed in, it's popped off the paint. The impact from the front has just buckled the passenger quarter panel and caused it.
I've crashed a lot of cars in my time

Your initials are'nt GBC by any chance ... ?

 

[Paradox11]

I wonder if the boarding up of the windows is a response to some of the comments on here from people who said they would be game to go up the driveway and check the licence plates on the cars?

 

[willough]

I have read three posts (since I became a member of this forum) that stand as being very damning IF TRUE. IMO I must say that the three statements are from second hand information and not by the people witnessing the events.

1- Someone stated a local saw NBC at the bus shelter late at night, looking unsettled , the night Allison disappeared.
2-.Someone stated police were seen by a neighbor at the GBC house around 9pm the night she disappeared.This neighbor subsequently found out the police had been called to a domestic dispute that night.
3-Someone stated that GBC and NBC were washing the cars when the police arrived at 7:30 am the morning he reported her missing.
These three posts if true (please don't ask me to find them) are the only things that I have read so far that hold and weight in my leaning towards GBC and NBC being the key players. Any thoughts? All MOO of course

I was on leave (timeout) when your point number 2 had been posted about....and at the time I couldnt respond.

There were so many pages spent on that point. The initial poster said the police cars were there at 9pm the day she went missing.

Well technically she went missing on friday morning....which would make it very normal, for there to be police cars there at 9pm on that night.

Everyone started thinking that person meant the Thursday night and I was unsure why......as she went missing on the friday...and was reported missing on the friday.

Now if someone saw the policecar there on the Thursday night, then HELL YEAH....ALARM BELLS, defintiely.

 

[J-Diggety]

Yep one of them. As I said some posts back I have to be careful here. Suffice to say VERY closely related ok

My apologies, I should have been more discreet.

 

[Sleuthilicious]

I haven't read all posts yet, so apologise if already covered...

GBC had a car crash down Moggill Road, near the Taringa C21 offices the week before Allison went missing. When I mentioned it to my friend who worked there, they described where the damage was and looked like without me even telling them. So, 99.9% sure this was caused by that accident.

Aha! This might explain why in the earliest reports of the white 4wd and smaller blue 4wd spotted on the Thursday night were traveling with the smaller blue 4wd in front, closely tailed by the white 4wd. I always found it odd that they weren't in reverse order given the identifying C21 sticker on the Prado (assuming of course GBC is involved). But, if there was damage to the front of the white 4wd the driver would not want witnesses traveling in the opposite direction to identify it...all IMO of course.

 

[ActusReus]

I haven't read all posts yet, so apologise if already covered...

GBC had a car crash down Moggill Road, near the Taringa C21 offices the week before Allison went missing. When I mentioned it to my friend who worked there, they described where the damage was and looked like without me even telling them. So, 99.9% sure this was caused by that accident.

Just catching up with todays posts......this Baden-Clay chap is a bit prone to crashing cars!! At the rate he is going he'll be on a Malvern Star soon. :back:

 

[willough]

I wonder if the boarding up of the windows is a response to some of the comments on here from people who said they would be game to go up the driveway and check the licence plates on the cars?

Ya never know paradox.

But, Oh please....People saying it....and people doing it is two different things. Even then, people here never insinuated they would be looking in through windows....Now, that would be downright stalking.

Boarding up windows is not normal behaviour....At worst, if I was fearful of stickybeakers, i'd nail blankets up, so noone could see through. Surely his windows have coverings.....sheesh

 

[Pseudonym]

I am thinking maybe it is all not related to Allisons murder . In the initial photographs of the car the other side was shown . One thing though , if it was damaged before that night wouldnt police have asked for anyone who had seen a damaged white prado during the hours of 11pm and 4am ?

Also if it is true that the prado and the mystery blue car were seen driving closely behind each other with only parkers on , couldnt that have been to hide the numberplate, advertising sticker and possibly identifying damage to the car ?

Last point - if the damage happened on the night Allison died i think either a towball or bollard was the cause.

 

[kiwi50]

He sure is having some bad luck lately.

Indeed, his stars certainly didn't line up that week.
Hope he didn't waste money on a lotto ticket.