You might want to contact the DAs office. This is a very old case, and the family needs some closure. The prosecutor can easily request social security information. The cops don't want to do anything because it doesn't impact them emotionally. Do you know the original investigators? Are they around? They might have more compassion and can help you get through some of the red tape.
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You might want to contact the DAs office. This is a very old case, and the family needs some closure. The prosecutor can easily request social security information. The cops don't want to do anything because it doesn't impact them emotionally. Do you know the original investigators? Are they around? They might have more compassion and can help you get through some of the red tape.
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I was hoping this would be solved.
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Gone a lifetime, sister searches for Diane Marie Webb
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2016/10/13/missing-arizona-children-diane-marie-webb-woman-continues-search-older-sister-missing-since-1959/91980162/
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2016/10/13/missing-arizona-children-diane-marie-webb-woman-continues-search-older-sister-missing-since-1959/91980162/
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We would be happy to put an episode out for your sister's case on Fading Steps Podcast to get the word out to more listeners. Keep the hope alive!
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As with most of these cases, someone, somewhere, knows something.
It certainly would be nice if this family could obtain closure.
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still missing: Diane Marie Webb, 17, was last seen by her family on her wedding date on May 6, 1959. Her husband, Bennie Milton Webb, 16, told police he had put her on the bus to head to her family's home in Dolan Springs, Ariz. and had not heard from her again
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...re-information-missing-arizona-day/787575001/
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...re-information-missing-arizona-day/787575001/
This one should have ruled out on DNA but because the stats and time fit (discussions have narrowed the likely UID time frame from 59 - 61), I thought I'd throw it up here.
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/17112
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Regarding DNA, is there any possibility they'd be able to get nuclear DNA from such old skeletal remains, or would it only be mitochondrial DNA?
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Bump. That’s so hard to imagine such young kids being married. I hope we hear something soon!
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Whatever happened to the big break the case was about to have?
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*I just realized that the same case link was posted above, but don't know how to delete my comment. Just ignore me!*
I know this is a rather old thread, but I came across this case of partial skeletal remains found in Tucson. The stats, though scarce, could point to Diane possibly.
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I know this is a rather old thread, but I came across this case of partial skeletal remains found in Tucson. The stats, though scarce, could point to Diane possibly.
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
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I recently found Diane’s case and have spent a little while comparing her to Pecos Jane Doe. I’m aware of the UID who has been mentioned repeatedly in Diane’s case but last I read, the exhumed remains were tested and determined not to be Diane. Other than a few contradictory newspaper articles and the basic identifiers, there is very little information known about Pecos Jane Doe, especially considering the circumstances.
Nevertheless, I still see quite a few similarities in the two; ears, lips, nose, large eyes, eyes rows, hairline, chin... and after finding some new photos of Diane this morning, it appears that she could have darker/“olive” skin tone. The image of Jane Doe really looks like Diane’s mother and sister, IMO. (their photos along with a few more of Diane can be found at the link below).
I’ve attempted to come up with an explanation for the 5+ year gap between disappearance and discovery, but Bennie Milton Webb has proven to be almost as mysterious as “Russell Battuon”. It looks like BMW may have been married several more times in the decade following Diane’s disappearance; per a simple public internet search. As I understand it he is still alive and I don’t want to cross a line there.
I’ve not seen a photo of Bennie anywhere to compare to the witness’ descriptions of the unidentified man who checked into the hotel as “Mrs. Battuon’s” husband. So I’m curious if he fits the description or owned a vehicle matching the one “Mr. Buttuon” was seen driving. Was Diane undoubtedly pregnant in 1959, or could that have been something that was made up by him or her or both? For whatever reason.
I remember reading about the UID remains being offered to the family as those of Diane, but her parents seemed pretty adamant that suicide wasn’t something Diane would resort to. And from what I’ve read about BMW’s suspected involvement, I personally don’t see anything extremely incriminating other than him not agreeing to a polygraph and the incident in T or C, NM. when her father went there seeking answers. That could just be attributed to an overly protective family of law enforcement officials. Though I’m not dismissing the possibility that there was more to their defensive and threatening behavior. Without more detailed information it’s hard to say. JMOO
If suicide is not probable and there’s really nothing concrete to suggest BMW harmed her or caused her death, is it possible that she simply chose to go missing? Either without Bennie and having him cover for her as best he could (albeit a very poor attempt if that be the case) while she went her own way or the two of them together attempting to lead their own lives away from the parents. They were still so young.
Fast forward 4-5 years, a young married couple checks into a small West Texas motel under assumed names as they’d probably done previously on more than one occasion, the Mrs. decides to cool off in the pool while the Mr. takes a nap, then tragedy strikes. Let’s say her drowning was accidental. I’d expect a barely-twenty-year-old guy to panic and most likely come across as being suspicious as opposed to just clueless and irrational during an intense situation. Or he was involved and suspicion was warranted. Again, without more detailed (consistent) information, it’s almost impossible to say one way or the other. Depending on certain variables I think either scenario is possible. :rambling:
Just my thoughts, opinions and speculative theories.
Date Body Found: July 5, 1966 (1959-1961)
Location Found: Pecos, Reeves County, Texas (Phoenix, Arizona)
Estimated Age: Adult - Pre 20; 17-20 years old (18 or 24 at time of UID’s death)
Estimated PMI: Minutes
Cause of death: Drowning
Inventory of Remains: All parts recovered/recognizable
Height: 5' 4" , Measured (5’2”-5’4”)
Weight: 120 lbs , Measured (110-120 lbs)
Hair Color: Brown, Long (Brown)
Eye Color: Brown (Brown/Gray/Violet)
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Large eyes. Olive complexion, leading one investigator to believe she was of Italian or Latin descent. 4" burn scar on the right side of her ribcage. 3" scar on left leg. She had perfect teeth.
Clothing: At the time of her death, she wore a bright-red bathing suit. When she was observed earlier, she wore dark shorts, a bra and a flowered blouse, which were found in her room.
Circumstances of Recovery: On July 5, 1966, this female checked in to the Roper Motel in Pecos with an unidentified male. They were seen swimming together. Around 5:30 p.m. she was heard to scream and people rushed to the pool. She was pulled out, and attempts were made to save her life with no success. Her companion, meanwhile, checked out and left the motel. Her body lies in an unmarked grave in the Pecos Cemetery.
At around 2:00 PM, the decedent checked into the Ropers Motel on July 5, 1966 with a young man as husband and wife. The pair used the name "Mr. and Mrs. Russell Battuon" (additionally spelled as "Batuon"). At about 4:00 PM that day, the female was found drowned in the pool by an employee after a scream was heard, while her companion was sleeping. There was no evidence foul play was involved and it appeared she was alone when she died.
The woman was pulled from the pool with the aid of a bystander and the man she checked in with. Attempts were made to revive the decedent, but were unsuccessful. An ambulance rushed her to the nearby Reeves Memorial Hospital, where she was pronounced deceased.
The male companion quickly checked out, taking their belongings, as well as the registration card. He used a ruse, citing that he needed the document to confirm his stay at the hotel with hospital staff, as the pair were not from the area. The card listed the couple's names, addresses as well as their hometowns. Authorities were unable to locate or identify him after his departure; he was believed to have been driving a late-model Sedan, possibly dark blue in color, dated from 1963. He was described as around 25 who was slender, short and blond, wearing a white tee shirt, black trousers and loafers. The only charges he could have faced would result from "defrauding" the motel, which he may have done "out of fear." Police also investigated a lead from a conversation at a cafe between two men, one stating he had "picked up a girl near the border, but managed to get rid of her." Because she had no dental work on her teeth, authorities were not able to compare dental records between potential matches. The decedent's fingerprints did not match anyone in the FBI database. She was later buried in a donated casket and clothing in Fairview Cemetery, despite that the body could have been kept for 30 days. A headstone was also provided through donation. Occasionally, flowers were placed on her grave by an anonymous mourner, who also maintained the burial site. Fifty attended the unidentified female's funeral on July 20. Two couples from Odessa, Texas and Roswell, New Mexico came to the ceremony, wondering if the decedent was their daughter. Additional relatives of missing persons reached out to authorities regarding the unidentified girl, but no tips led to solving the case.
Dentals: Available. Decedent had "perfect" teeth with no evidence of dental work.
Fingerprints: Available
DNA: Unknown
*no exclusions listed for Pecos Jane Doe
Investigating Agency(ies):
-Pecos Police Department
Corporal Felix Salcido or Chief of Police Lisa Tarango: (432) 445-4911
https://www.pecostx.gov/government/departments/police
Sources:
NamUs
NCMEC
The Doe Network
Websleuths
Go San Angelo
Gone Cold Podcast
culturecrossfire.com
US 105 FM
KVEO
*Several newspaper articles, most of which can be found in the links above; The Odessa American and Albuquerque Journal
azcentral.com <—additional photos of Diane—
Nevertheless, I still see quite a few similarities in the two; ears, lips, nose, large eyes, eyes rows, hairline, chin... and after finding some new photos of Diane this morning, it appears that she could have darker/“olive” skin tone. The image of Jane Doe really looks like Diane’s mother and sister, IMO. (their photos along with a few more of Diane can be found at the link below).
I’ve attempted to come up with an explanation for the 5+ year gap between disappearance and discovery, but Bennie Milton Webb has proven to be almost as mysterious as “Russell Battuon”. It looks like BMW may have been married several more times in the decade following Diane’s disappearance; per a simple public internet search. As I understand it he is still alive and I don’t want to cross a line there.
I’ve not seen a photo of Bennie anywhere to compare to the witness’ descriptions of the unidentified man who checked into the hotel as “Mrs. Battuon’s” husband. So I’m curious if he fits the description or owned a vehicle matching the one “Mr. Buttuon” was seen driving. Was Diane undoubtedly pregnant in 1959, or could that have been something that was made up by him or her or both? For whatever reason.
I remember reading about the UID remains being offered to the family as those of Diane, but her parents seemed pretty adamant that suicide wasn’t something Diane would resort to. And from what I’ve read about BMW’s suspected involvement, I personally don’t see anything extremely incriminating other than him not agreeing to a polygraph and the incident in T or C, NM. when her father went there seeking answers. That could just be attributed to an overly protective family of law enforcement officials. Though I’m not dismissing the possibility that there was more to their defensive and threatening behavior. Without more detailed information it’s hard to say. JMOO
If suicide is not probable and there’s really nothing concrete to suggest BMW harmed her or caused her death, is it possible that she simply chose to go missing? Either without Bennie and having him cover for her as best he could (albeit a very poor attempt if that be the case) while she went her own way or the two of them together attempting to lead their own lives away from the parents. They were still so young.
Fast forward 4-5 years, a young married couple checks into a small West Texas motel under assumed names as they’d probably done previously on more than one occasion, the Mrs. decides to cool off in the pool while the Mr. takes a nap, then tragedy strikes. Let’s say her drowning was accidental. I’d expect a barely-twenty-year-old guy to panic and most likely come across as being suspicious as opposed to just clueless and irrational during an intense situation. Or he was involved and suspicion was warranted. Again, without more detailed (consistent) information, it’s almost impossible to say one way or the other. Depending on certain variables I think either scenario is possible. :rambling:
Just my thoughts, opinions and speculative theories.
Date Body Found: July 5, 1966 (1959-1961)
Location Found: Pecos, Reeves County, Texas (Phoenix, Arizona)
Estimated Age: Adult - Pre 20; 17-20 years old (18 or 24 at time of UID’s death)
Estimated PMI: Minutes
Cause of death: Drowning
Inventory of Remains: All parts recovered/recognizable
Height: 5' 4" , Measured (5’2”-5’4”)
Weight: 120 lbs , Measured (110-120 lbs)
Hair Color: Brown, Long (Brown)
Eye Color: Brown (Brown/Gray/Violet)
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Large eyes. Olive complexion, leading one investigator to believe she was of Italian or Latin descent. 4" burn scar on the right side of her ribcage. 3" scar on left leg. She had perfect teeth.
Clothing: At the time of her death, she wore a bright-red bathing suit. When she was observed earlier, she wore dark shorts, a bra and a flowered blouse, which were found in her room.
Circumstances of Recovery: On July 5, 1966, this female checked in to the Roper Motel in Pecos with an unidentified male. They were seen swimming together. Around 5:30 p.m. she was heard to scream and people rushed to the pool. She was pulled out, and attempts were made to save her life with no success. Her companion, meanwhile, checked out and left the motel. Her body lies in an unmarked grave in the Pecos Cemetery.
At around 2:00 PM, the decedent checked into the Ropers Motel on July 5, 1966 with a young man as husband and wife. The pair used the name "Mr. and Mrs. Russell Battuon" (additionally spelled as "Batuon"). At about 4:00 PM that day, the female was found drowned in the pool by an employee after a scream was heard, while her companion was sleeping. There was no evidence foul play was involved and it appeared she was alone when she died.
The woman was pulled from the pool with the aid of a bystander and the man she checked in with. Attempts were made to revive the decedent, but were unsuccessful. An ambulance rushed her to the nearby Reeves Memorial Hospital, where she was pronounced deceased.
The male companion quickly checked out, taking their belongings, as well as the registration card. He used a ruse, citing that he needed the document to confirm his stay at the hotel with hospital staff, as the pair were not from the area. The card listed the couple's names, addresses as well as their hometowns. Authorities were unable to locate or identify him after his departure; he was believed to have been driving a late-model Sedan, possibly dark blue in color, dated from 1963. He was described as around 25 who was slender, short and blond, wearing a white tee shirt, black trousers and loafers. The only charges he could have faced would result from "defrauding" the motel, which he may have done "out of fear." Police also investigated a lead from a conversation at a cafe between two men, one stating he had "picked up a girl near the border, but managed to get rid of her." Because she had no dental work on her teeth, authorities were not able to compare dental records between potential matches. The decedent's fingerprints did not match anyone in the FBI database. She was later buried in a donated casket and clothing in Fairview Cemetery, despite that the body could have been kept for 30 days. A headstone was also provided through donation. Occasionally, flowers were placed on her grave by an anonymous mourner, who also maintained the burial site. Fifty attended the unidentified female's funeral on July 20. Two couples from Odessa, Texas and Roswell, New Mexico came to the ceremony, wondering if the decedent was their daughter. Additional relatives of missing persons reached out to authorities regarding the unidentified girl, but no tips led to solving the case.
Dentals: Available. Decedent had "perfect" teeth with no evidence of dental work.
Fingerprints: Available
DNA: Unknown
*no exclusions listed for Pecos Jane Doe
Investigating Agency(ies):
-Pecos Police Department
Corporal Felix Salcido or Chief of Police Lisa Tarango: (432) 445-4911
https://www.pecostx.gov/government/departments/police
Sources:
NamUs
NCMEC
The Doe Network
Websleuths
Go San Angelo
Gone Cold Podcast
culturecrossfire.com
US 105 FM
KVEO
*Several newspaper articles, most of which can be found in the links above; The Odessa American and Albuquerque Journal
azcentral.com <—additional photos of Diane—
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Additional Photos of Diane:
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Diane was born “Diane Marie White” on April 20, 1942. Aliases include “Di”, Diane Gilbert (not sure if this is Mother’s maiden name?), and married name Diane Webb.
Here is a current list of exclusions for Diane per NamUs:
UP5556 05/30/1976 Virginia Beach VA
UP6249 11/14/1980 Rockingham VA
UP8579 01/25/1981 Hanover VA
UP6796 11/18/1985 Alleghany VA
UP6642 08/07/1986 Chesterfield VA
UP6629 02/03/1991 Winchester VA
UP6661 02/03/1991 Stafford VA (link not accessible)
UP8493 12/06/1993 Fairfax VA
UP8419 01/16/2001 Isle of Wight VA
UP12683 06/06/2014 Newport News VA
UP7228 10/25/1965 Pima AZ
UP17112 04/25/1972 Pima AZ
UP10566 04/08/1981 Pima AZ (X2)(links not accessible)
UP8576 10/08/1999 Yuma AZ (X2)(links not accessible)
UP9040 06/30/2010 Pinal AZ
UP5211 09/30/1968 Will IL
UP3153 04/19/1981 Will IL
UP4790 04/24/1981 Miami OH (link not accessible)
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Has some definite similarities. What’s the context of the photo?
What is known about that person if anything?
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I agree. Was the local police where they were living ever brought into this investigation? Did he ever have a criminal record? Did they have friends? Did either of them work? So many unanswered questions.