Bosma Murder Trial 03.21.16 - Day 24

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Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Vaughan, Ontario
First witness called by Crown is Shane Schlatman #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 54s54 seconds ago
Next #Bosma witness is Shane Schlatman, #Millard main hangar employee. He didn't look at former boss when walking in.

Ann Brocklehurst ‏@AnnB03 50s50 seconds ago
Much awaited witness in Tim Bosma trial, Shane Schlatman takes the stand.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Crown Craig Fraser has called Shane Schlatman to the stand. He's heavy set, goatee, close cropped hair, blue plaid shirt. #bosma

Adrian Humphreys ‏@AD_Humphreys 1m1 minute ago
First witness today is Shane Schlatman, Dellen Millard's right-hand man at Millardair hangar. #TimBosma #Bosma

Adrian Humphreys ‏@AD_Humphreys 31m31 minutes ago
#TimBosma murder trial resumes after week's break. Catch up. Video evidence: http://natpo.st/21GEoLs Stories: http://news.nationalpost.com/tag/tim-bosma #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
We've heard lots about Schlatman so far in this trial. He was the one who ordered the incinerator on behalf of MIllard. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Vaughan, Ontario
Follow us along on Twitter @ColinButlerCBC and @AdamCarterCBC and keep track on Adam's live blog http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/tim-bosma-trial-restarts-monday-after-week-off-1.3500355 … @CBCHamilton

 

[Kamille]

He met him while working at National Four Wheel Drive in Burlington. Millard was a customer there.
by Adam Carter 10:40 AM

Schlatman worked on one of Millard's jeeps.
by Adam Carter 10:41 AM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 57s57 seconds ago
He first spoke to police May 11, 2013, day after Millard arrest. Went on to speak with cops many times.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Schlatman spoke with police several times after Millard's arrest, court hears. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Vaughan, Ontario
Crown jumping right in about Schlatman's discussions with police about the investigation into Bosma's disappearance #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 31s31 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman says he's known 'Dell' for about 7 years in May 2013, when Bosma disappeared #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 17s17 seconds ago
May 2013 he'd known "Dell" for 7 years. Schlatman was a mechanic at a 4X4 shop, called National. Worked on Jeeps. Millard was customer.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 25s26 seconds ago
Had known Millard about 7 years as of May 2013. First met when he was working at a 4x4 shop in Burlington. mIllard was a customer. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 20s21 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman is a mechanic and first met Dellen Millard when he worked on his Jeep #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 19s20 seconds ago
Schlatman worked on Millard's Jeep.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 13s13 seconds ago
He did work for Millard there (National 4 wheel drive) on a jeep. #Bosma

 

[billandrew]

I will be updating my timeline and witness list as the trial proceeds today.

 

[Kamille]

Millard approached Schlatman to work for him personally around 2010. He started working weekends at first, then Millard asked him to stop working at National and work for him full time. He eventually went for it.
by Adam Carter 10:42 AM

Millard wanted to learn how to do more mechanic work on cars, he says. Schlatman would work on vehicles at the MillardAir hangar, when it was still at Pearson airport. "In all the time that you worked for MillardAir, did you ever work on airplanes?" Fraser asks. "No I did not," Schlatman says.
by Adam Carter 10:44 AM

Schlatman says he knew Wayne Millard, Millard's father.
by Adam Carter 10:44 AM

 

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Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 38s38 seconds ago
Millard asked Schlatman to come work for him. In 2010. Millard wanted to learn more about cars. Schlatman started working just Saturdays.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 32s32 seconds ago
Millard wanted to learn to work on cars. Asked National owner to rent a bay there to work on cars. Owner said no. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 26s26 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Millard offered Schlatman work, first odd jobs, but then a full-time position. Schlatman was unhappy in his current position. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 25s26 seconds ago
So he asked Schlatman to come work for him on Saturdays, at hangar (then at Pearson airport). #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 13s14 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman also worked on vehicles at Pearson, when Millard Air had a hangar there #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 16s16 seconds ago
Went on to work full time for Millard. Millard wanted to rent bay at National, but boss there said no. Millardair had hangar at Pearson.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 21s22 seconds ago
Never any airplane work there, he says. After a while, Millard asked him to quit National and work for him FT. #Bosma

 

[Kamille]

"I always was directed by Dell," Schlatman says -- even when his father was still running the company. "He would tell me what to do and not listen to anybody else."
by Adam Carter 10:45 AM

Schaltman says he was working 7 a.m. to 7 p.m., Monday to Friday. "Generally, I was doing oil changes, fixing cars, there was a kit car to be built ... basically it was all automotive work."
by Adam Carter 10:47 AM

He says generally that work was limited to "mostly Dell's stuff."
by Adam Carter 10:47 AM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman never worked on airplanes during his employment at Millard Air; he only worked on cars #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Schlatman worked at 4x4 shop in #BurlON & #Millard was customer with jeep TJ when they met. #Millard later offered full time job. #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 51s51 seconds ago
He never worked on airplanes during employment at Millardair. Sometimes fabrication of stuff (trailer, racking etc) but mostly work on cars

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 48s48 seconds ago
Schlatman never worked on airplanes. Just cars. #bosma Built trailer for The Eliminator. #bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 55s56 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman also knew Wayne Millard, Dellen's father #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 20s20 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman says he was 'always directed by Dell...I was only told to do what he said, and not to listen to anyone else' #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 14s14 seconds ago
Knew Wayne Millard, head of Millardair. Schlatman was always directed by Dellen, Wayne's son.

Hamilton Spectator ‏@TheSpec 3m3 minutes ago
#Bosma trial is back underway. Follow along with @susanclairmont & @mollyhayes #HamOnt http://bit.ly/1o1nKnh

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 12s13 seconds ago
Schlatman also knew Millard's dad, Wayne. But says Dellen Millard was who he took orders from. Was told not to listen to anybody else #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 33s34 seconds ago
Shayne Schlatman, Dellen Millard's right hand man at MillardAir is testifying right now.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 27s28 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman worked Monday to Fridays, 12 hour days for Millard

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 21s22 seconds ago
He worked at Pearson airport hangar for Millardair full time for a year.#Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 11s12 seconds ago
He says he met Millard 7 years ago while working at a 4x4 repair shop in Brantford.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 31s32 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
He did oil changes, fixing cars, built a kit car, 'basically it was all automative work' #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 19s19 seconds ago
He did oil changes, built a kit car. "Basically it was all automotive work." And mostly for Dellen.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 15s15 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Generally it was limited to mostly 'Dell's stuff' Shlatman tells the court #Bosma

 

[Arnie M]

Adam Carter CBC Mar 21 2016 9:37 AM

The next witness is Shane Schlatman, who worked for Millard. His father in law, Arthur Jennings, already testified to seeing Bosma's truck inside the MillardAir hangar.

Schlatman first spoke with police on May 11, 2013.

In May 2013, Schlatman says he had known Millard for seven years.

He met him while working at National Four Wheel Drive in Burlington. Millard was a customer there.

Schlatman worked on one of Millard's jeeps

Millard approached Schlatman to work for him personally around 2010. He started working weekends at first, then Millard asked him to stop working at National and work for him full time. He eventually went for it

Millard wanted to learn how to do more mechanic work on cars, he says. Schlatman would work on vehicles at the MillardAir hangar, when it was still at Pearson airport. "In all the time that you worked for MillardAir, did you ever work on airplanes?" Fraser asks. "No I did not," Schlatman says

Schlatman says he knew Wayne Millard, Millard's father

"I always was directed by Dell," Schlatman says -- even when his father was still running the company. "He would tell me what to do and not listen to anybody else."

Schaltman says he was working 7 a.m. to 7 p.m., Monday to Friday. "Generally, I was doing oil changes, fixing cars, there was a kit car to be built ... basically it was all automotive work."

 

[Kamille]

In 2012 the MillardAir hangar was finished at the Waterloo airport. Schlatman was still doing mostly car work then -- but some "fabricating" was done then too.
by Adam Carter 10:49 AM

He says they talked each day, either in person, by phone or text.
by Adam Carter 10:49 AM

Schlatman says he continued working for MillardAir after Millard was arrested -- up until April 2015. That's when the hangar was sold.
by Adam Carter 10:50 AM

After Millard was arrested, Schlatman's contact person was Madeleine Burns, Millard's mother. "Basically, I was a secretary for the hangar, pretty much."
by Adam Carter 10:50 AM

Planes were going in and out then, Schlatman says, business that Burns had contracted. "They just basically rented the space."
by Adam Carter 10:51 AM

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 24s25 seconds ago
He worked on cars doing oil changes. Worked on building a kit car. All automotive work, he says. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 34s34 seconds ago
Millard tried to rent a bay to lean how work on cars at The shop, but Schlatman says his boss wouldn't agree.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 35s36 seconds ago
Moved operations to Waterloo in 2011. Rented 2 smaller hangars there while big Millardair hangar was built.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 34s35 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman says the operation moved in spring 2012 to Waterloo Airport #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 26s27 seconds ago
So Millard offered him a job on weekends, which eventually led to full time work for Schlatman.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 22s23 seconds ago
Schlatman worked for #Millard Air when dad Wayne was still alive & hangar was still at Pearson, but was told to only listen to Dellen

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 56s56 seconds ago
While large hangar was being built at Wtloo airport, they rented out 2 smaller hangars there. #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman is a middle-aged guy, heavy set, with a shaved crew cut and goatee. He's wearing a black and white checkered shirt. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
Schlatman says he never worked on an airplane during his time at MillardAir.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Moved to large hangar in spring 2012. Job there was roughly the same. Car work, plus some fabrication-building steel doors etc. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman says he talked with 'Dell' by text message, phone calls everyday #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 49s50 seconds ago
Communicated with Dell "pretty much everyday." Continued to be employed by Millardair until April 2015 when hangar was sold.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 55s56 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman says he continued to be employed by Millard Air until April 2015, two years after Bosma's disappearance + Millard's arrest #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 22s23 seconds ago
After Millard was arrested in May 2013, he stayed on until hangar was sold in April '15. #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 10s11 seconds ago
After Dell's arrest dealt with his mom, Madeleine Burns. He became "secretary" for the hangar. No planes there until after Dell's arrest.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 15s16 seconds ago
Says he kept it clean, let planes in and out. (There were no planes there before Millard's arrest). #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 12s12 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman says previously there had NOT been planes in and out of the hangar, only after Millard's arrest. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 6s6 seconds ago
He most fixed cars, built a few things "but nothing crazy big or anything."

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 47s47 seconds ago
Companies rented hangar space for planes after Dell's arrest. #bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 43s43 seconds ago
Schlatman continued at #Millard Air after boss arrested, maintained hangar for Millard mom Madeleine Burns. She rented space to planes

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 5s5 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Crown: Did you have a personal relationship with Millard? Schlatman: I didn't hang out with him but I considered him a friend #Bosma

 

[Kamille]

"I considered Dell a friend - I didn't hang out with him on a regular basis or anything of that nature."
by Adam Carter 10:52 AM

Schlatman made a trip to a Baja jeep race.
by Adam Carter 10:53 AM

Schlatman says he was married in 2012, and Millard was invited to the wedding.
by Adam Carter 10:53 AM

He had also been at Millard's home in Etobicoke "a few times."
by Adam Carter 10:54 AM

 

[Arnie M]

Adam Carter CBC Mar 21 2016 947 AM

He says generally that work was limited to "mostly Dell's stuff."

In 2012 the MillardAir hangar was finished at the Waterloo airport. Schlatman was still doing mostly car work then -- but some "fabricating" was done then too.

He says they talked each day, either in person, by phone or text.

Schlatman says he continued working for MillardAir after Millard was arrested -- up until April 2015. That's when the hangar was sold.

After Millard was arrested, Schlatman's contact person was Madeleine Burns, Millard's mother. "Basically, I was a secretary for the hangar, pretty much."

Planes were going in and out then, Schlatman says, business that Burns had contracted. "They just basically rented the space."

I considered Dell a friend - I didn't hang out with him on a regular basis or anything of that nature."

Schlatman made a trip to a Baja jeep race.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 16s17 seconds ago
After Millard's arrest on May 10 2013 Schlatman worked for MillardAir until April 2015 when the Waterloo hangar was sold.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 12s13 seconds ago
Schlatman says he considered Dell a friend. He went with him down to Baja when he did the race down there. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 22s23 seconds ago
"I considered Dell a friend," says Schlatman. Went to the Baja race with Andre Michelski and Dell.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 30s31 seconds ago
Andrew Michalski (Millard's roomie, court has heard) was also there. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 32s33 seconds ago
Millard went to Schlatman's wedding in 2012. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 27s28 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman invited Millard to his wedding in 2012 #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 18s18 seconds ago
Schlatman married in 2012, Millard invited. Had been to Millard's home for business.

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 22s22 seconds ago
He would go out to Millard's home now and then to fix cars, but didn't go there to socialize. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 21s21 seconds ago
Hangar sold Apr 2015, & Schlatman now works elsewhere. "I considered Dell a friend." Went with him to Mexico for Baja race

 

[Kamille]

The Baja, Mexico race was in the spring of 2011.
by Adam Carter 10:55 AM

"Dell had a large car trailer and a red Dodge Ram with a gas engine in it," Schlatman says. The gas engine was "very expensive" to drive down to the race. "I mentioned many times a diesel would have been much more efficient."
by Adam Carter 10:56 AM

"He also agreed that it probably would be."
by Adam Carter 10:56 AM

"He was considering looking to find a diesel truck," Schlatman says.
by Adam Carter 10:57 AM