CA - Rebecca Zahau Nalepa - suicide or murder? #10

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Here's the response of the ME concerning some facts left out of their presentation last Friday:




Now I guess they're back to the bunker and wait for incoming......

Completely and totally bizarre in how they are handling this case. Why is the autopsy so vague? The autopsy should be detailed enough so that subsequent "memos" shouldn't be necessary.

Surprised Jonah doesn't have an official response tacked on to this.

All just IMHO. Weird stuff. IMHO. :innocent:
 
I wonder if the make up removers or clothing was even taken into evidence? Even if it was, I am afraid they are gone now, as the case is 'closed'.
 
It would be useful to have a body diagram of RZ abrasions, cuts, contusions akin of the one LE did of Max. Why one of Max but not RZ?

It would be useful to have an illustration of Max falling over balcony onto chandelier that was height proportional.
 
It would be useful to have a body diagram of RZ abrasions, cuts, contusions akin of the one LE did of Max. Why one of Max but not RZ?

It would be useful to have an illustration of Max falling over balcony onto chandelier that was height proportional.

And if ME thinks RN might have hit her head on something after jumping of the balcony (to explain the evidence of blunt force trauma on her head), where is the modeling of that? After all this was a 9 feet drop, I doubt she was bouncing up and down, so what would the modeling indicate? Apparently it was not done.
 
JMO, she had no idea she was being more than blamed for MS's accident. RZ had dinner with the two brothers after taking AS up to the hospital. It was a perfect time for them to question her about what happened or how she'd describe what happened regarding MS's accident. JMO, she might not have seen this coming.
 
More puzzles...

Apparently medical examiner made a major typo in the "suicide" message ("YOU" instead of "HE")? Any other mistakes?

Could AS suitcase have been in one guest house bedroom but AS slept in the room with the unmade bed?

Could the clothes have been those of GS left behind from prior visit?
 
More puzzles...

Apparently medical examiner made a major typo in the "suicide" message ("YOU" instead of "HE")? Any other mistakes?

Could AS suitcase have been in one guest house bedroom but AS slept in the room with the unmade bed?

Could the clothes have been those of GS left behind from prior visit?

Anything is possible that's why LE presumably should have asked whose clothing those were, considering there was a naked woman hanging from the balcony. Did they ask? Did they test the clothing and make up removal toilets?
 
Just saying - if you're going to write down in the report that you found these clothes belonging to a woman in the guest house bedroom then why not say whose clothes they turned out to be? Afterall, RZ was found naked.

Towelettes would have skin cells and dna, I'm pretty sure.

Wow, you guys have been busy; took me forever to read all the post from 5:45 pm til now.......thanks so much for autopsy report!!

2 bedrooms in guest house. 1 with a suit case and made up bed (but no clarification as to whose suitcase or if anyone slept in this room)
1 with an unmade bed, woman's clothes on floor, makeup wipes and a glass with liquid....WTH

whose clothes?
whose dna on makeup wipes??
whose dna on glass???
whose dna on bed sheets????

c'mon LE, these questions should have been asked/answered - forensics 101...did they not want the answers????

did AS and RN sleep in this room together??? (sorry but this was my first thought 20 pages back.........)

did AS have a 'friend' over? If so, the statement that only AS and RN were the only ones at the mansion that night......was incorrect

Now, can someone get the interview transcripts???? They will probably make us all :crazy::crazy::crazy:

UNBELIEVABLE:banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
JUst for my clarification...(not questioning you! :seeya:)

1. Do we know for a fact that she was barred from ICU?

2. I thought she called INQUIRING about boarding, but never showed up with dog? (per interview with boarding ctr owner)

6. She was tied to the bed in knots? and not for the first time?? :waitasec:

8. "...as if she had no where to go..."? :waitasec:

I don't know if it was a fact but it has been stated multiple times that Dina did not want her near the hospital.

I think I read that boarding couldn't happen immediately to due to vaccinations - so boarding ctr owner picked up Ocean next day took care of vaccinations and boarded dog

Many people seem to think that having experience with knots like these is ONLY possible if you are into boating. There is something called Shibari which also has to do with knots and beds and not with boating. I have read that Jonah had a real interest in Asian culture.

It seems like Rebecca had given up a lot to come and live with Jonah and was planning on making a life with him. Sure she could have gone back to her family - but I think she was overcome with sadness that Jonah was casting her aside and had more or less told her she would have to leave.
 
JMO, she had no idea she was being more than blamed for MS's accident. RZ had dinner with the two brothers after taking AS up to the hospital. It was a perfect time for them to question her about what happened or how she'd describe what happened regarding MS's accident. JMO, she might not have seen this coming.

This is what is so tragic about this case. I will preface this by saying that I do not believe this was a suicide. Having said that, I can not imagine the terror that Rebecca must have gone through. If this was someone she knew, there would have been pleading, anger, fear, despair. If this was a stranger, did she know why this was happening?

I can't imagine what must have been said, yelled, hurled at her. I wonder if she had thoughts that no one would even know she was murdered.

I would like to think this was fast, but unfortunately, with the music between 1 and 1:30 and the estimated tod at 3, she may have been terrorized for quite some time.

Rebecca, I hope you are at rest in peace.
 
Completely and totally bizarre in how they are handling this case. Why is the autopsy so vague? The autopsy should be detailed enough so that subsequent "memos" shouldn't be necessary.

Surprised Jonah doesn't have an official response tacked on to this.

All just IMHO. Weird stuff. IMHO. :innocent:

There could definitely be political repercussions over this fiasco. I believe I read that Sand Diego has the 3'rd largest LE agency in the State. But this just seems like bush league comportment by the various offices. They must be at least a little embarrassed by how this is unfolding. I suppose LE bigs figured, based on the real dearth of reporting during the last 6 or 7 weeks, that the matter would just die off after their declaring it dead. The weak presentation has set up LE for some headaches it looks like. Sheriff Gore touted during the election that he was the most competent and able to run a major department. Questionable at this point.
 
More puzzles...

Apparently medical examiner made a major typo in the "suicide" message ("YOU" instead of "HE")? Any other mistakes?

Could AS suitcase have been in one guest house bedroom but AS slept in the room with the unmade bed?

Could the clothes have been those of GS left behind from prior visit?

The ME looked pretty young to me. Maybe GREEN is the better word.
 
IS IT REALLY POSSIBLE THAT THIS IS A COINCIDENT???


I ran the odd and mysterious sentence "SHE SAVED HIM CAN YOU SAVE HER?" which Rebecca Zahau alleged wrote on a door prior to her alleged suicide, through an anagram program, and the anagram that popped up was:


EVASIVE HUSH MONEY CHARADES





EVASIVE

1. tending or seeking to evade; avoiding the issue; not straightforward
2. avoiding or seeking to avoid trouble or difficulties: to take evasive action
3. hard to catch or obtain; elusive
4.Tending to avoid speaking openly or making revelations about oneself.
5.Directed towards avoidance or escape; evasive action.



[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hush_money"]Hush money - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Magnifying_glass_01.svg" class="image"><img alt="Stub icon" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3a/Magnifying_glass_01.svg/30px-Magnifying_glass_01.svg.png"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/3/3a/Magnifying_glass_01.svg/30px-Magnifying_glass_01.svg.png[/ame]

HUSH MONEY

Hush money is a slang term for a form of bribery, in which one person or party offers another an attractive sum of money or other enticement, in exchange for remaining silent about some illegal, stigmatic, or shameful behavior, action, or other fact about the person or party who has made the offer.[1]

The person or party who presents the hush money may be attempting to avoid criminal prosecution, a lawsuit (as sometimes in the case of an out-of-court settlement), a leak of information to the news media, or silence about a stigmatic issue within one's own community. The information being covered up may include illegal activity, such as drug dealing, or some personal secret, such as an extramarital affair. In some cases, a government agency may be involved in the offer of hush money in order to protect the agency's employees, politicians and their appointees, or a national government in its standing among other nations in the world.



[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charades"]Charades - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

CHARADES


Charades or charade is a word guessing game. In the form most played today, it is an acting game in which one player acts out a word or phrase, often by pantomiming similar-sounding words, and the other players guess the word or phrase. The idea is to use physical rather than verbal language to convey the meaning to another party. It is also sometimes called Activity, after the board game.

Though less commonly it was originally also used to indicate a riddle either in verse or prose, of which the listener must guess the meaning, often given syllable by syllable—see riddle. In France the word 'charade' still refers to this kind of linguistic riddle.
 
So, if they were this lacking in the investigation of Rebecca's death, what was missed in the investigation into Max's death?:banghead:
 
As in any comprehensive investigation, some findings cannot be entirely explained," Lucas said in a statement. "None of the observations listed ... are inconsistent with the conclusions reached regarding the cause and manner of death of Rebecca Zahau."

The blood was not the result of rape but probably due to an intrauterine device or menstruation, Lucas said.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...oronado-death-but-still-label-it-suicide.html

BBM

BUT you (ME/LE) could tell us about the clothes, makeup wipes, sheets and glass found in one of the rooms..........DNA, DNA, DNA

A naked lady was found outside with a rope around her neck.....and you (ME/LE) didn't wonder about the items in that bedroom.....
 
Wow, you guys have been busy; took me forever to read all the post from 5:45 pm til now.......thanks so much for autopsy report!!

2 bedrooms in guest house. 1 with a suit case and made up bed (but no clarification as to whose suitcase or if anyone slept in this room)
1 with an unmade bed, woman's clothes on floor, makeup wipes and a glass with liquid....WTH

whose clothes?
whose dna on makeup wipes??
whose dna on glass???
whose dna on bed sheets????

c'mon LE, these questions should have been asked/answered - forensics 101...did they not want the answers????

did AS and RN sleep in this room together??? (sorry but this was my first thought 20 pages back.........)

did AS have a 'friend' over? If so, the statement that only AS and RN were the only ones at the mansion that night......was incorrect

Now, can someone get the interview transcripts???? They will probably make us all :crazy::crazy::crazy:

UNBELIEVABLE:banghead::banghead::banghead:

Great questions scorekeeper!

Score is:

Scorekeeper 100

LE/ ME 0
 
Wow.

WOW. WOW. WOW.

This part of the medical examiner's office response is really wow:


Bruises on the right side of her scalp were also seen. These were relatively minor. Because there was evidence that she went over the balcony in a non-vertical position, she may have struck her head on the balcony on the way down.

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MAY have? Well, let's just assume and move on I guess! If the "may have" can also be "might not have", then what's their explanation?

And why didn't they go into this to begin with last Friday, instead of totally neglect it? 15 detectives and so many seemingly unlooked into pieces laying around after thy were done. It is bizarre.
 
Or maybe the door message writer a teenager into Dark Harvest or Hazards of the Forest or paganism or Wiccan. The red dog bone, the red blanket, the candle, the black paint.

"In this book the relationship and love between Kismet and Deveraux deepens. But the threat of another vampire (who is insane) looms over Kismet. He comes to possess her mind and body more and more, which troubles Deveraux. Can he save her on time as she saved him once? Its touch and go for awhile, but it brings Kismet and Deveraux closer together (Also throw in a woman who tries to befriend Kismet,who is nasty...and a good wiccan and true friend who tries to help Deveraux and Kismet.) http://www.amazon.com/review/R1P9E7AENV2XYY

http://www.witchvox.com/books/dt_bk.html?id=1467
She saved him, now can he save her from herself?
Hazards of the Forest
Author: Kelly Dreyer
Publisher: Planning to self publish with print on demand.
 
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