Canada - Remains of three newborns found at London home, 9 June 2009

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5hCmcjs4ljq3x9N5pRLokZ4DD2lsQ

The autopsies at Ontario's Center of Forensic Sciences began Thursday and were ongoing, said London police spokeswoman Const. Amy Phillipo.

Investigators had not received any test results back from the lab, she added.

 

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http://www.timescolonist.com/Dead+babies+from+different+rpegnancies+Documents/1685876/story.html

Police believe the three dead infants discovered in the basement of a London, Ont., home were born on different occasions, according to court documents.


The information filed against Jennifer Sinn appears to indicate that investigators believe she gave birth to one baby in or after 2001, another baby in or after 2002 and a third infant in or after 2006.

 

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Paintr, thanks for all the updates...you're a doll =)

 

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Paintr, thanks for all the updates...you're a doll =)

Aw Shucks! It t'wern't nuthin'.

BTW I love your avatar.

 

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http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2009/06/12/9777776.html

London police chief Murray Faulkner plans to hold a news conference Monday to discuss the investigation into the remains of three infants discovered in a basement on Sandford Street June 6.

 

[mysteriew]

I really hope you're right, as that would turn this from "real crime" to pathos, which is better. However, until they find out what has happened to her one year old daughter who no one has seen for a while, I am still nervous. (Though the fact that the charges do not include murder, I am leaning towards miscarriage/still birth - though three is still an awful lot.)

The same situation can apply if she had killed or aborted the babies, as if the babies died of other causes. I just mean that because the babies were found in the cellar, it isn't a clear indication that it was murder.

 

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/woman-accused-of-hiding-dead-babies-lived-in-shelter/article1180763/

A woman accused of keeping the decomposing remains of her infant children into a storage box was living in a shelter for abused women and children when she was arrested.

The Clarke Road shelter that 32-year-old Jennifer Sinn listed as her address in London, Ont., is part of Women's Community House, Canada's largest high-security emergency shelter for abuse victims.

 

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http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2009/06/13/9785181-sun.html

Police are expected to reveal Monday some results of autopsies on the bodies of three infants found in a bag in the basement of a London home a week ago.

The autopsies were held Thursday into the infant deaths which led to charges against Jennifer Sinn, 32, whom police allege gave birth to the babies in 2001, 2002 and 2006.

 

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http://southwesternontario.ctv.ca/news.php?id=4889

London police Chief William Faulkner will brief the media today on the remains of three infants found in a home.

 

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http://www.myfmradio.ca/1057/wire/news/5280068_News_Conference_Regarding_Three_Dead_Infants_094945.php

She briefly appeared in court Tuesday and is being held in custody until her next court appearance, scheduled for June 19. Police will address media at 10:30am in London.

 

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5hCLiPOQsAChzM91OCjQ33bodlDYw

He said it will probably be months before any firm conclusions can be reached.

Faulkner said there was no sign of trauma on the bodies, but added that a homicide investigation is still taking place.
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Faulkner says the case has "peculiar twists and turns" and that the advanced state of decomposition is "part of the problem."

 

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http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090615/infants_remains_090615/20090615?hub=Canada

Faulkner also said the investigation is far from over and that police are awaiting further results from the autopsies. They are also looking at "the full circumstances" related to when the children died.

 

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http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1697832

The remains of three babies found in the basement of a London, Ont. home were of "near, to full term" infants, an autopsy has found.




http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/06/15/london-babies.html

Faulkner said the autopsy has determined that the bodies were disposed of between December 2001 and June 2009. The autopsy did not determine the gender or parentage of the infants, though police say they expect forensic examinations to turn up more information in the coming months.

"We have been advised that it will probably take months to do a determination on those two [gender and parentage] specific items," the chief told reporters.

Faulkner said the police haven't made a decision yet on whether homicide charges are warranted. He would only say that the invesigation is "ongoing."

 

[WhyaDuck?]

"Forensic tests on three infants inconclusive
Advanced decomposition is making it difficult to determine the cause of death, ages or genders of three babies found in the basement of a home in London, Ont."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...on-three-infants-inconclusive/article1182408/

The sex of the babies would be very hard to tell, and COD is difficult if there is no skeletal trauma. This case really will come down to the mother's truthfullness, I think.

 

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http://www.northpeel.com/news/article/71055

Police say the babies may not have been carried to full term and the remains may have been in the container between three and eight years.

Sinn grew up in Brampton, raised by deaf parents. She started having babies as a teenager. She was pregnant in high school, and had a child, Tyler, at the age of 16. Three years later, at age 19, she had her second child, Matthew, this time delivered at home in her townhouse on Baronwood Court. Her father, Edwin, helped with the January 1996 early delivery.

 

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http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2009/06/15/9801861-cp.html

"People have been asking us, 'Is this a homicide?"' he said.

"Well, our investigation is still going on today, regarding not only the findings of the bodies but the full circumstances in relation to when the infants died."

In addition to the three infants who are allegedly Sinn's, she had three other children with her now ex-boyfriend, said Faulkner, adding they are being looked after by family members.

 

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http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/06/16/Autopsies-Little-new-on-infants-remains/UPI-27121245154119/

At a news conference Monday, Police Chief Murray Faulkner told reporters the autopsies on the remains included examinations by a Toronto pathologist and anthropologist. Because of advanced decomposition, they weren't able to determine the genders or ages of the babies, he said.

http://www2.canada.com/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=46e18527-19ec-4b28-a23a-cc8909ef0397

"This case has lots of peculiar twists and turns," Faulkner said. "To begin with, like most accused who are spoken to by police, they are helpful but a point comes in the investigation where the information stops and that's where we are today," the chief said.

http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2009/06/16/9809171-sun.html

He said the investigation is far from over.

"There's more criminal investigation we need to do as well as significant autopsy examinations that have to be conducted," he said.

He encouraged any of Sinn's family and friends with information to contact police.

 

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http://www.londontopic.ca/article.php?artid=14740

Faulkner confirmed the suspect did temporarily reside at Women's Community House, a shelter in London for abused women, but stressed that many people stay there for reasons other than abuse and there are no charges of abuse in relation to Sinn that police are aware of or that are before the London courts

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The question of self-abortion was raised by members of the media, to which Faulkner responded, "We don't know. We don't have evidence to indicate that is or is not the case."

When asked if there were any other suspects being considered in the investigation, Faulkner responded, "The investigation is still ongoing and you can read into that what you want."

 

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http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/06/17/9822131-sun.html

Sinn gave birth to her first child, Tyler, when she was 16, former Baronwood Court neighbours said yesterday. Three years later, she gave birth to another boy, Matthew.

According to one neighbour, both boys were born at home.

Media reports at the time of her second son's birth indicated Sinn had intended to give birth at Peel Memorial Hospital, but the baby came three days early.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

Here's an interesting case that may (or may not) shed some light on this case:

"It came to light when Jean-Louis Courjault found the bodies of two babies in the freezer, at the family's home in the South Korean capital, Seoul. Mrs Courjault was on holiday in France at the time, and refused to go back.

In the run-up to her trial, it seems that every leading pregnancy expert in France has been interviewed by the media - and suddenly people here are no longer talking about premeditated murder, they are talking about an intriguing psychological condition called pregnancy denial.

The figures the paper gave were startling - every year in France, between 1,600 and 2,000 women apparently suffer from pregnancy denial, and at least 230 discover or admit they're pregnant only at the moment they give birth."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8104195.stm