Caylee Anthony General Discussion Thread #88

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From the Orlando Newspaper this morning
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August 13, 2008
Casey Anthony had turkey bologna for lunch Tuesday and will dine on jailhouse turkey with gravy for dinner today. That's life for Orange County inmate No. 08034750.

Today marks the 28th day she has been locked up in the jail, where her existence is a stark contrast to the media circus surrounding the disappearance of her 3-year-old daughter Caylee Marie.

While her parents are interviewed daily by reporters, 22-year-old Anthony is living alone in a 7-by-12-foot cell in the county's female detention center. Her only TV appearances are on security video watched by officers.

Jail officials say she spends most of her days reading books from the jail library and sleeping. She is not allowed to have pen and paper.



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Caylee Anthony goes missing Photos "She has been a model inmate," said jail spokesman Allen Moore. "She hasn't made any unusual demands and has been very cooperative."

Authorities booked her in jail July 16 on charges of child neglect, a felony, and filing a false statement, a misdemeanor. She remains there until she can post a $500,200 bail.

Her notoriety puts her in "protective custody" status, which means she's separated from the general population. This is the same treatment former astronaut Lisa Nowak and former boy-band producer Lou Pearlman received during their stays. It's for the inmates' safety -- it keeps them from being targeted by others, Moore said.

"She lives a very stark existence in spartan surroundings," he said.

The only human interaction Anthony has is with jail staff -- including officers and medical workers if needed -- and her attorneys.

"It's basically without social interaction," Moore said.

At least an hour a day, Anthony is allowed out of her cell when she can have access to a phone, take a shower or watch TV in the day room. If weather permits, a corrections officer can escort her to an atrium-type area where she can get fresh air.

Her day usually starts about 5 a.m. with breakfast. There is no wake-up time, but lights come on about 6:30 a.m.

Anthony eats by herself in her cell, which has a bed, toilet and sink.

Lunch is served around 11 a.m., and dinner comes starting about 4:30 p.m.

She can't buy extra food from the jail commissary because no one has deposited money in her jail account.

Anthony dialed her last phone call more than 10 days ago when she asked her brother to have her attorney, Jos� Baez, come to the jail. The call lasted 34 seconds.

Baez has made the trek to the jail 14 days since he first saw her July 17, according to jail records.

On some days, he saw her several times. Some visits lasted more than two hours. Another lawyer and investigators in Baez's firm have stopped by more than five times.

Baez was not available Tuesday to comment.

In addition to her legal team, Anthony's family can visit her. The jail does not allow face-to-face contact with the public. Visitation -- limited to three a week -- is done through live video, and participants talk by phone.

However, Anthony has refused to see her family for the past several visits -- including her parents Sunday night. She gave no reason. Her brother, Lee, canceled a visit Tuesday. Like his sister, he gave no reason.

Her parents are scheduled to visit again Thursday. Jail officers will ask her that day whether she wants to see them.
 
I posted an article last night, I just wanted to re-post one paragraph from it again.




Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, said she washed the gray pants but told investigators early on in the investigation about that fact. Detectives said they learned about the pants being washed about a week ago.
 
They can proceed with murder charge once they have all the forensics in, which still could take a good deal of time. I feel this was a cold blooded murder, Casey shows no remorse whatsoever, not the emotions of someone whose child died an accidental death.
Unfortunately, it seems to take the police a long time to get their ducks in a row, but the hammer will come down on Casey.
 
She seems awfully cold hearted to me which makes it hard to believe the death (if there was one) was an accident.
 
I posted an article last night, I just wanted to re-post one paragraph from it again.




Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, said she washed the gray pants but told investigators early on in the investigation about that fact. Detectives said they learned about the pants being washed about a week ago.
If this is the case, and she held that information from LE, then right now, they should arrest her too.
 
I read there was another scheduled visit for Lee(?) Thursday. I wonder if Casey will continue not to see anyone in the family?
 
I simply can't be her enough to know what the regulars know. I found this link that said investigators found Caylees DNA in Caseys care, it's from 8/5. This was news to me, and probably not true (for now)? since it hasn't been said anywhere else. Or am I wrong or misunderstanding this?

I know I drop in then disappear, lurk and run, but I want to thank everyone who keeps me up to date with their insight and facts.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/08/investigators-h.html
 
She seems awfully cold hearted to me which makes it hard to believe the death (if there was one) was an accident.
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I agree, and at this point, even if there was an "accident" the series of events afterwards point straight to murder. IMO
 
We don't know about things missing from any of the houses you mentioned Game Theory. I was of the view that if Casey committed this act she would have been a bit more emotionally involved in just dumping the baby. The reason I say this, is due to the deep gazes between mother and child in various photo's. There was a deep emotional involvement shared between them. Discarding in a dumpster or lake without any thought, even subliminal as opposed to finding a safe resting place in a peaceful location, just does not do it for me. Maybe its just me but I just can't feel a discard without affection. Go ahead beat me up. Its my gut feeling

Lots of people pose for photos. I think as long as someone else was doing the real caring for Caylee (Cindy and George) caylee was just an accessory. You can smile at a nice accessory.

Also, after decomp set in, and Caylee what the baby would have started looking like, she may no longer have viewed Caylee as a person, but as a body.

I think she put her in a dumpster in a garbage bag, and i would be surprised if we ever find the body. ButI hope I'm wrong and she burried her somewhere.
 
If Casey had buried Caylee under the playhouse she may have been forced to move the body. Cindy and George seem like the types to plan ahead and could have told Casey online or by phone that they were going to lay pavers under the playhouse on the 4th. Casey could have gone to the house after the 24th and moved Caylee to another location. I'd have no idea where, but I don't think Casey would have ruined the car she drives otherwise, and not wanting to lose her vehicle might account for why she made sure it would be found, not realizing that the odor would linger after sitting a few days. That would take a cold hearted person who only cares about herself. I don't think she put much interest into a nice burial.

I've been meaning to ask, just how disturbed was the dirt under the playhouse. Was it enough to have burried a whole body? Or was it just some digging.
 
Just saying...Did you see any pics where the child kisses mommy, has her arms around mommy's neck, chest, holds mommy's face, etc? Casey looks like a cool younger aunt who when visits she takes this fun cute pictures with the child to post on her myspace account. It is dress up fun time. My own subjective opinion of course that could be 100% wrong.
I understand, thinking back to Caylee as an infant in Casey's arms, its a black and white photo. Very different from all the newer ones. I do understand where your coming from Casey is quite a case subject with her detachment.


I thought when I seen the pictures of Caylee with Casey it looked like Caylee was an accessory to make Casey look better. It (not comparing Caylee with dog) but it reminded me of Paris Hilton and her little dog. It does look more like she is the fun aunt not the loving mother. :(
 
Yes I agree with you.

But it seems Casey is busy reading and sleeping a great deal in jail these days. Interesting story in today's Orlando Sentinel on that subject: "A Day in the Life of Jailed Mom Casey Anthony."

One of the more interesting tidbits: she has to eat boring turkey bologna sandwiches because she can't buy food from the jail comissary -- because NO ONE HAS DEPOSITED MONEY IN HER JAIL ACCOUNT.

HMMM, what does that say about relations with grandmom, granddad and brother Lee?


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey1308aug13,0,1524094.story

:boohoo:

This is very interesting. I also wonder if they are just putting on a show for Casey to make it sound like they are on her side, because she might see it and they may never find their granddaughter/niece, if they say anything negative about Casey. I wonder what they say behind closed doors. They have to realize nothing is adding up, and it looks bad for Caylee and only Casey has the answers so until they find Caylee they have to play Caseys game. Or, I just hope they cannot be that naive.
 
Remember the GP probably provided the pictures we're all seeing, their favorites. They all do look posed and not so spontaneous. Casey uses her smile a lot, she has a pretty smile but it doesn't look spontaneous in some pictures. However, we all do that. Smile for the camera.
 
IMHO, the grandparents are not totally sane people. If I was a grandparent, (which I will be very soon), if I thought kidnappers took the child I would have been begging the kidnappers to bring her home from day one that I knew she was missing. Likewise I would have organized searches to look for her all around the immediate area, and hired private detectives to do the rest. Their nonchalant approach to the whole thing is baffling.
 
One of the theories I'm coming to believe is that Casey accidentally or purposefully killed Caylee, freaked because she didn't know what to do with the body, eventually confessed to George to get advice about what to do. By then, Casey had already put Caylee in the yard and maybe back in the trunk (I think it happened at the house after the argument with George/Cindy). George took over the body and disposed of it someplace where LE would have hard time finding it - a better place than Casey could think of on her own. He advised her to keep quiet in jail and stick to her story - there's no way she would keep quiet on her own at this point. They kept the whole thing from Cindy, at least in the beginning - not sure about now.

This is just my opinion, which changes from day to day...
 
This is very interesting. I also wonder if they are just putting on a show for Casey to make it sound like they are on her side, because she might see it and they may never find their granddaughter/niece, if they say anything negative about Casey. I wonder what they say behind closed doors. They have to realize nothing is adding up, and it looks bad for Caylee and only Casey has the answers so until they find Caylee they have to play Caseys game. Or, I just hope they cannot be that naive.


I actually think this is a VERY possible theory...

it would explain why last week they were saying things like, "If Casey was responsible she needs to be in jail and be punished."

I think they're cooperating with LE and trying to push Casey into speaking.

(please don't flame me)
 
Thanks for the link, belimom. That is a big part of the case. Any loving mother would be frantic and all they could think of/talk about would be their missing child.

Oh, ITA! Our son has gone "missing" a few times (normal kid pranks, like hide-and-seek... :rolleyes:) and I totally freaked. I ran up and down the street like a madwoman, screaming his name. At one point on a different occasion, we thought he had drowned , to the point that my husband and my brother were getting ready to dive in and search (he was again *hiding*). I was so distraught that my legs gave out. (After the last incident, we had a serious talk with him about hide-n-seek - you do NOT hide from adults. Ever. Ever. Ever.)

Sorry for the personal OT info - just wanted to say that for several minutes on a few occasions, I've experienced the panic that I think any normal parent would feel upon thinking their child is gone. It's almost a gut animal-like instinct to go nuts and stop at nothing to find your child.
 
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