Cindy & George Pick Out Jewelry for Caylee - (Cremation Jewelry?)

[OldNWize]

I am not reading anything weird into this at all. It's possible that Cindy picked out other items such as toys, etc. to be placed with Caylee and asked George to pick out some pieces of jewelry. I don't for one minute believe that Cindy had an ulterior motive in asking him to do that. Unfortunately, in the act of picking out things to be placed with her, it made it "real" and if he were already depressed, then it could have just gotten too much for him. This of course is pure speculation on my part.

I can't for the life of me begin to understand the intense emotions that they are feeling and because I am not with them behind closed doors, I am not going to allow myself to judge, criticize or condemn them. Regardless of their actions throughout this case, they have my prayers.

 

[jai-yen]

I took it to mean that they were going to attempt to adorn the skeletonized remains with jewelry, which I still maintain is macabre and grotesque, given the circumstances. But as it has been pointed out that they may have meant to simply include a favorite necklace or other piece in the casket with the remains, and if it brings them some small measure of comfort, so be it.

We don't know what their particular spiritual traditions might be. If I recall correctly, they'd intended to have Caylee cremated and they obviously can't have an open casket in this case. I believe they are trying to ritualize their pain somehow, to comfort themselves and Caylee's spirit.

I say if it brings them peace, it is a good thing.


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[jai-yen]

I can't for the life of me begin to understand the intense emotions that they are feeling and because I am not with them behind closed doors, I am not going to allow myself to judge, criticize or condemn them. Regardless of their actions throughout this case, they have my prayers.

Amen! It's so easy to forget, because this is a high profile media event, that very real people are involved. I'd hate to think what it would be like to be under such brutal public scrutiny, every aspect of our individual personalities judged and evaluated. I wish them peace. All of them.

I just wish Casey would do the right thing and give her parents and brother some peace by telling what really happened! Of course I know that's an absurd wish.


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[Sundance]

I am not reading anything weird into this at all. It's possible that Cindy picked out other items such as toys, etc. to be placed with Caylee and asked George to pick out some pieces of jewelry. I don't for one minute believe that Cindy had an ulterior motive in asking him to do that. Unfortunately, in the act of picking out things to be placed with her, it made it "real" and if he were already depressed, then it could have just gotten too much for him. This of course is pure speculation on my part.

I can't for the life of me begin to understand the intense emotions that they are feeling and because I am not with them behind closed doors, I am not going to allow myself to judge, criticize or condemn them. Regardless of their actions throughout this case, they have my prayers.

OldNWize, your post makes my heart smile this morning. Welcome.

 

[Sundance]

Amen! It's so easy to forget, because this is a high profile media event, that very real people are involved. I'd hate to think what it would be like to be under such brutal public scrutiny, every aspect of our individual personalities judged and evaluated. I wish them peace. All of them.

I just wish Casey would do the right thing and give her parents and brother some peace by telling what really happened! Of course I know that's an absurd wish. ~*

Jai-Yen, Welcome. I too would hate to under such a microscope during such a trying time. And I too wish them peace.

Casey could end this dog and pony show, but she won't. For her, I feel no empathy, instead I want to just shake her until she stops this torture of her family.

 

[dr dona]

Years ago- one of my young patients with a chronic illness became extremely ill suddenly. His illness had been in remission due to meds ( he had nephrotic syndrome. ). As I stabilized him to fly him to the Tertiary Care Center he asked me if he was going to die- he was 7. My reply was I hope not. I told him to fight hard and I was going to buy him a pass to our local water park and swimming pool. When his kidney specialist called to tell me he was gone I lost it. His parents buried the pool pass along with a ball and bat with this beloved child- he was dressed in his baseball uniform. A promise is a promise- These objects were his favorite things.
So, I don't knock because I've been there.
Another dying child kept seeing angels. A friend of mine- a professional harpist- had just released a new CD which contained only music which referred to angels. As she lay dying the sound of angel music surrounded her. When the angel stood at her bedside her mom told her it was OK to go with the angel- she did. These are true stories and I have hundreds of them. Children seem to be able to detect presences we cannot. They frequently see angels at the time of death. It is my sincerest hope that
Caylee was carried in the arms of angels. Cindy and George- I hope you read this and know it as truth. May God comfort you and be with you
always.

 

[TxLady2]

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Just my opinion of course, but I say the Anthonys should be allowed to grieve and try to cope with the loss of Caylee (AND of Casey) in peace, and I for one will not engage in suppositions and slams about what Cindy may or may not have been thinking of when she asked George to do that.

Another thing I thought of after reading the report is maybe he didn't get the job he was applying for and that may have been the proverbial straw for him.

I will keep him in my prayers, and ask that he be given peace within himself in his grief.

You guys be good to one another - remember, Caylee is watching.

Sundance

AMEN!! We need to remember that this family is hurting in the worst way.

When my 16-y.o. stepson died, we all put small pics of ourselves in with him, so that he would not forget us and would recognize us when we met him again in Heaven.

 

[whiteangora]

No one said they were :buying" jewelry for Caylee, what was reported "pick out jewelry for Caylee". Yes, you can put items with the body or remains of a person for cremation.

Nor did anyone say not buying.
If I say I'm going to "pick out" a car, how would that be taken?
Or, if I say I am going to "pick out" a dress, it could be taken how?
These kinds of statements can be taken differently.
We really have no proof where the jewelry was going to be picked out from. Not trying to be argumentative, just flexible.

ETA:Ya know, the more I think about, this thread is strange and seems like a very personal, intimate detail for us to even be discussing.
Should we really be talking about this? I just don't know.

 

[OldNWize]

Thank you, Sundance.

 

[MissJames]

Questions:

Wasn't Caylee supposed to be cremated?

If so, would one really buy jewelry to dress skeletal remains in just to cremate?

Do crematories allow items with remains at the time of cremation?

Ours did.My son was completely dressed and his friends left items in the casket.

 

[seekjustice]

FWIW when I read the report I took it to mean Cindy was asking George to go into Caylee's room and pick out some of her play jewelry....we have seen many pics of Caylee dressed like a princess or wearing beads etc. just like any little girl would. IMO the thought/action of having to even go into Caylee's room could have sent George over the edge and understandably so.

 

[passionflower]

Amen! It's so easy to forget, because this is a high profile media event, that very real people are involved. I'd hate to think what it would be like to be under such brutal public scrutiny, every aspect of our individual personalities judged and evaluated. I wish them peace. All of them.

I just wish Casey would do the right thing and give her parents and brother some peace by telling what really happened! Of course I know that's an absurd wish.


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WELCOME!!!!

If truth would of been told from the beginning, there would be no circus. I am hoping that all the family will tell the truth and get everything off their chests. Then they will be able to go on without guilt. The family does need time to grieve and I would NEVER want to be in their shoes, EVER!
kc is another matter, she sees that she didn't do anything wrong.
IMO, kc has detroyed everyone around her in one way or another.

 

[passionflower]

FWIW when I read the report I took it to mean Cindy was asking George to go into Caylee's room and pick out some of her play jewelry....we have seen many pics of Caylee dressed like a princess or wearing beads etc. just like any little girl would. IMO the thought/action of having to even go into Caylee's room could have sent George over the edge and understandably so.

Welcome!!

OMG, you could be so right! I was thinking of 'shopping for jewelry'. To have a final farewell, picking out items for in her casket could send a depressed person over the edge. Personally, I could not live in that house, I wouldn't be able to look at Caylee's things day in every day. The playhouse would haunt me forever. That is when you need extended family and friends to help support you through all of this...........

 

[passionflower]

Years ago- one of my young patients with a chronic illness became extremely ill suddenly. His illness had been in remission due to meds ( he had nephrotic syndrome. ). As I stabilized him to fly him to the Tertiary Care Center he asked me if he was going to die- he was 7. My reply was I hope not. I told him to fight hard and I was going to buy him a pass to our local water park and swimming pool. When his kidney specialist called to tell me he was gone I lost it. His parents buried the pool pass along with a ball and bat with this beloved child- he was dressed in his baseball uniform. A promise is a promise- These objects were his favorite things.
So, I don't knock because I've been there.
Another dying child kept seeing angels. A friend of mine- a professional harpist- had just released a new CD which contained only music which referred to angels. As she lay dying the sound of angel music surrounded her. When the angel stood at her bedside her mom told her it was OK to go with the angel- she did. These are true stories and I have hundreds of them. Children seem to be able to detect presences we cannot. They frequently see angels at the time of death. It is my sincerest hope that
Caylee was carried in the arms of angels. Cindy and George- I hope you read this and know it as truth. May God comfort you and be with you
always.

I also believe in angels, very much so! Please PM me with the title of the CD.
and is it on sell in stores? TIA

 

[EgyptNug]

There is not anything wrong with doing that. But the mental picture is a bit disturbing to me. Since there is NO body at this upon which to put jewelry ON, as an earlier posted I also find it a bit "macabre" sounding. This is not a typical open-casket funeral where you can tuck in sweet mementos and remember that moment. A blanket? makes sense. A doll even makes sense. But where would they PUT the jewelry on Caylee or where IN the casket?

But who cares, they don't need to please me. I just think I'd have been as bothered as GA at trying to figure and envision it.

 

[klm403]

I don't know how the Anthony's are coping with the time from Caylee's known death, and her "much deserved" funeral.

My Dad was killed by a reckless driver, in Arizona last January 3rd, on his daily morning walk. :cry:

Mom and Dad were snowbirds, we live in Canada, and it took 11 days from his death till the funeral, as the arrangements to have him brought home were unbelievable!

Not that it became easier after the funeral...it didn't, I can barely type this now...one year later, tears are flowing.
The funeral did, however, give a reality to the horror and grief, but most of all, the time for us to really say "goodbye".

As for placing items with loved ones, I understand completely. When I was younger I was a competitive figure skater. Dad traveled with me across Canada for competitions, had me to the rink at 5:00 am practices...and so much more.

In my last private moments with him I tucked a couple of my medals under his Legion jacket, over his heart. I know he would have wanted that...as that was one of our biggest bonds when I was younger. We had many!

I hope the Anthony's place something significant with Caylee...it makes a difference, in a small heartfelt way.

Seeka

 

[Jolynna]

I think it's certainly allowed but the temps would surely destroy most things.................

And when you bury someone with jewelry the jewelry is forever lost.

The point is giving a last gift or sending a loved one off to the next world with something special.

This doesn't HAVE to make sense if the symbolism comforts the people left behind.

IMO

 

[concentric]

Can you imagine listening to your wife where she keeps reassuring you that Caylee is alive! Then the shock of the discovery of Caylee's remains. Almost immediately after this is that shocking imagery of choosing jewelry to go in a coffin with the skeletal remains of this baby--that is one recipe for going off the deep end. It's like, wait a minute, I thought she was alive. OMG, she isn't alive. It's trying to accept the fact and having to plunge into the finality of it all. Too much for him. I don't know yet about Cindy. What is going on in her head?

 

[FORDANIEL]

I loved the statement "Don't let anyone tell you how to grieve".Whether they buy jewelry,pick something out that is already there,and special to them,if it's placed with bones or ashes,none of this matters,and frankly I see this as one of the first healthy signs of acceptance that Caylee is gone.It does not matter,whether any of us think it is or isn't appropriate.There is a difference between sleuthing and judging!

 

[FightTheOstrich]

Finally, they are doing something for Caylee. Imagine that? In my opinion, this is a step in the right direction.