Hey all.
New Lady member here, from London, UK.
It has been torture waiting to register for this site - I had to wait for a new email addy. I have been desperate to post/reply !
I have been following Relisha's case since the very beginning, I prefer USA news to Uk and was suspicious from the off, the story, the circumstances, the Mothers behaviour.
I have thought about this little girl every day. I have trawled social media and read everything I can..I just feel I owe it to her to be one who cares about her. I feel for her because I had a hard upbringing, very similar and I think there but for the grace of god or whoever go I.. I'm almost 40 now but I dread to think what may have become of many more children had the internet been around and society been as bad in the 70's /80's for child paedophilia as it is now. Dont get me wrong - evil has and is around, always has been always will . but the opportunities..It seems much more likely that women will put their children at risk for financial gain nowadays than before.
On the subject of horses and stables - its a bit late now but in the first news report I read with comment from SY, she mentioned that KT took Relisha to see horses frequently.
I also feel this is much bigger than just KT, due to things I have read and the evidence - he wasn't in this alone. I am suspicious about his suicide and certain witnesses who have provided information on his last movements etc.
I also think Relisha was worth more alive to him than dead. As we sadly suspect though, she was either too injured to be kept around (makes me feel sick just typing ths) or her death could've been accidental in a certain way - I will explain what I mean.
When I was younger, we lived in a poor area on a rough estate. Myself and my friends had been victims of child sexual abuse. It was not isolated, it was planned and orchestrated by a very organised gang. I was one of the lucky ones, as we has CPS involved in my family for a different reason and I ended up out of the circle . I wont go into details but what sticks out for me , is my friends (male) who had it the absolute worse were put in this position by their Mothers, some of the local mothers were on Heroin at the time and lived in the same block. One Mother had entered in to some sick agreement with part of the gang, an old creep who posed as a child model photographer. She met him when he stopped her to say he wanted to get her boy a part in a famous UK soap. These people feel around and get the jyst of what mothers to go for, they test the water to see how far they can manipulate a naïve or callous/ drug addicted parent .
These men look for the weakling , the unprotected one at the back of the herd and make their moves.
Anyway, things progressed and a deal with this main Mother was set -
The deal was that she would offer her boy (my friend) and encourage the other Mothers to let their children (almost all boys)go to the house by verifying what a good man he was, how the kids could make money modelling or be on tv, how his house was safe, how he was like a godfather to her boy and nothing had ever happened, how he had a wife somewhere, they couldn't have kids and he just loved having the local kids over for movie nights etc...she got him lots of fresh 'talent' as they called it, she duped a lot of vulnerable Mothers In exchange for money and drugs from him - she justified her behaviour by accepting the mans claim that 'it would just be photos, no touching' and that he would drug the children whilst doing so, thus in her mind they would never be aware of what happened when they awoke. So in her mind - as sick as we see it - she saw it as harmless because ' they didn't know anything.'
This is what stuck in my mind when I started learning about Relishas case.
I suspect SY may have the mind set like this woman did. And I suspect two things happened then - it obviously didn't stop at photos, it became physical force. By him or/and his associates. So Relisha was harmed. But I also believe she possibly OD'd on drugs given to knock her out. This will explain SY resistance to file a MP report or to be involved in any of this investigation, because she knew that KT could drop her in it just as much . I always thought Relisha looked a bit out of it in her latest photos and the vid. I thought I bet Mom knew and they were drugging Relisha on her night stays, so she never suspected a thing.
As soon as they mentioned hotels in the news about Relisha, I thought she was being exploited in Child abuse images - (By the way, I don't call it child *advertiser censored*, *advertiser censored* is a term coined by abusers when it comes to children, there is no *advertiser censored* - it is illegal images of child abuse, photos of a crime scene - I and others in the abuse survivors groups in the UK frequently call out the media and organizations for calling it' child *advertiser censored*'. We do not like the term, it desensitises the issue and dumbs it down to a semi acceptable term. We often get the papers to change this term) - I too know that abusers will use a hotel , especially hotels in a large chain like Holiday Inn etc, because they are all decorated and carpeted in the same generic way. so photos and video is easier to distribute without fear of a comeback from identifying features in the content. You won't know the area, or maybe even the country that it came from.
It also explains why he had so many ipad and phones, as you can download /upload material more privately through 4G etc then you can wirelessly.
Relisha was worth much more alive to KT if he was renting her out. He also wouldn't be acting alone. A lot of others could have been in trouble if he was caught or if he, his wife (IF she knew) or Relisha spoke out. If he wasn't offering her to other sickos, he would still want her alive - Child abusers do not tend to kill their long term grooming victims, its a long expensive and time consuming habit for them to get the child and they like to keep in that chlids life for as long as possible for maximum abuse and benefit to themselves.
The fact that he continued to work there whilst Relishas family - who would have seen him everyday, and if they thought he had her would have been in regular contact - all carried on their daily lives, shows you it was an uneasy truce somehow.
Mothers who do this have disconnected emotionally from their child, they may say the right thing - barely - sometimes, or they convince themselves through guilt that they are good parents - because in their minds , they are. Its all denial and a mind set that normal people just cannot fathom or understand.
It is easy for a groomer and manipulator to control a situation like this, certain families with different morals to others - can be bought easily.
I don't feel she has been sold on now, she is a very 'hot' subject as far as the crime, the news , the reward and publicity goes- someone is now missing her and she is traceable and would know too much, long term sale savvy abusers prefer a child who is not going to be missed much be it either though neglect or easy access and there is usually some co-operation , family wise. It is how they get the longevity out the child. Relisha would be too much trouble for them to have in their hands.
Phew. Sorry for the length ...there's been so much I wanted to comment on at so many times that I had to get the initial feelings off my chest...Anyway, pleased to meet you all and I very much admire and enjoy reading all your postings on WS.:seeya:
You are appreciated !