HOW does the State Prove it was not George?

[Woe.be.gone]

BUT the DT never claimed that anybody killed Caylee. Not GA, not KC.
They're claiming it was an accident that went out of control.

 

[LancelotLink]

I just don't believe that George did anything to Casey..she didn't say he did anything to Caylee. Most child sex offenders will go after all the children, not just one.

Now, George was asked if he molested Casey but Lee was not..I am thinking that maybe Lee will get on the stand and say that George did abuse Casey and maybe even say himself. Who knows, but it just makes no sense to me. I could see Casey being angry and black mailing George and saying well I will blame you for the death..but call 911 ASAP. Not keep quiet until the day of her trial.

No matter what she went through she knew her baby girl was dead, and Casey kept on living..but living the good life. There is so much that has not been said and IMO it will come out after the defense spews their lies. :cow:

Exactly! This was her BIG chance to finally tell the truth, right? Wrong. This was Jose Baez trying to cash that check his bragging mouth wrote weeks ago, how he was going to explain everything.
Jose's story defied logic as well as human behavior. Trying to say that neither Casey or George bothered to try and perform CPR, call 911?

 

[gxm]

Ya know. IMO, there has already been evidence of sexual abuse. But not by George. By the mother of a toddler who had her baby sleeping in bed with her and her boyfriend. It's odd to me that we are supposed to believe that GA is a child molester on the DT's word alone, but we are expected to overlook the fact that ICA had Caylee sleeping in bed with her and RM.

Just sayin'.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I think Casey herself will, In all her glory.
They also have computer expert of their own I believe, to discuss his Escort Services hits ion the computer.

And members of the family and friends will discuss his affairs and his gambling and lying, and volatile temper. imo/

All those things are character flaws but don't mean GA's is a killer.
But that's the same thing with KC - liar but Killer? That's what the jurors will have to decide.

They'd have to have more on GA like that KC visited the counselor when she was 18 like she claimed to have done. (in a letter I think)

 

[LancelotLink]

Originally quoted by katydid23; (My replies in red)

It appears that the main defense strategy will be GEORGE DID IT. And Kronk helped at the end. And Cindy left the ladder up...

They are even going to imply that George is framing Casey because he was abusing Caylee and did not want to be exposed, imo.

So does the state have any solid evidence that can prove his innocence and her guilt?

Their 'evidence' :BBM - First of all, from where did this claim that GA was abusing "Caylee" come from? I've never heard that in the courtroom. Have you?

George had control of the duct tape. He owned it so that's no biggie.

He had keys to the Pontiac. Most people do that have their name on the title.

He had access to all of the burial items. It was his home, so that's a given.

He knew about the burial site. They need to "Prove" it.

He attempted suicide. That's difficult to understand? Good Lord, how much is one person supposed to endure because of a brat daughter?

He did not call LE when he left the tow yard. I think he was waiting to see what CA had to say about that. Doesn't make him involved in harm to Caylee.

He had no response when he first 'learned' about Caylee being missing. How in the world would we know that? He was taken back by the news and was speechless for a few seconds of what we were privileged to hear on a tape of a phone call. Not a fair assumption IMO.

He went secretly to LE and gave incriminating evidence about Casey. He was truthful in his interview with LE, that's all. If it was incriminating, then let the shoe fit.

Casey has all the symptoms of abuse survivor.

The only symptoms she has are those of a pathological liar and a spoiled brat.[/QUOTE]

Actually, you can hear George saying "What?" Now, the long version, the one JB chose not to play, you can hear Cindy yell at him, "I'm on the phone with them!" Leaves me to believe he was instructing her to call 911.

 

[gxm]

BUT the DT never claimed that anybody killed Caylee. Not GA, not KC.
They're claiming it was an accident that went out of control.

Yes. But they have yet to provide any evidence or testimony to back their story up. And, their story is so outrageous (as well as being three years too late) that it screams for corroboration.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I guess those people who put that stuff into their veins aren't in the crowd that would be worried about religiously following the food pyramid or measuring their cardiovascular rate while jogging? :waitasec:

Chloroform is rather dense and a common dilution agent is .... gasoline ... a gas can with a hole in it that could be covered and uncovered with duct tape would work just fine. Take the tape off and put the kid in a confined space with it --- nighty night.

But no one ever suggested that KC kept gas cans in the car - she always had to go to da-da's shed to get them.

That's a horrible thought - plus I read it's sweet, like antifreeze.

p.s. I guess I've never thought about how heroine and the like are made before.

 

[donnam]

George is not on trial, so the SA doesn't have to prove anything about George. The DT does IF they want to make their ridiculous OS stick.

 

[donnam]

And don't forget that Cindy said she had never seen the "Big Trouble" t-shirt at her house. So George went over to TonE's and got the shirt and dressed Caylee in it before he threw her away?? No way.

Excellent point, I was just going to post that!

 

[LancelotLink]

Ya know. IMO, there has already been evidence of sexual abuse. But not by George. By the mother of a toddler who had her baby sleeping in bed with her and her boyfriend. It's odd to me that we are supposed to believe that GA is a child molester on the DT's word alone, but we are expected to overlook the fact that ICA had Caylee sleeping in bed with her and RM.

Just sayin'.

That is an excellent point!!

 

[Woe.be.gone]

The DT might focus on all the yard work GA undertook while Caylee was 'missing' too. He was at it the end of June through July.

Moved the hibiscus. Moved the trunk to the corner. Caylee could have climbed on the trunk and hoisted herself over. It does seem like bad timing.

 

[gxm]

All those things are character flaws but don't mean GA's is a killer.
But that's the same thing with KC - liar but Killer? That's what the jurors will have to decide.

They'd have to have more on GA like that KC visited the counselor when she was 18 like she claimed to have done. (in a letter I think)

But GA didn't lie about Zanny the Nanny. And he didn't go out partying at hot body contests. He didn't take LE on a wild goose chase (or two or three). The lies surrounding Caylee's murder belong to ICA. ICA was the only one claiming to know what happened to Caylee (that she was kidnapped by an imaginary person). All of CA and GA's misdirection was created to get ICA off the person-of-interest list. All of ICA's lies have to do with what happened to Caylee.

The case will not be decided on which Anthony family member lies the most. It will be decided on which Anthony family member has lied about what happened to Caylee. And there is only one Anthony family member who fills that bill.

 

[katydid23]

BUT the DT never claimed that anybody killed Caylee. Not GA, not KC.
They're claiming it was an accident that went out of control.

Yup, that is what they said in their OS. HOWEVER, there are clues that they are now going with a more aggressive case against George. They have consultants, like LKB and Janie W. who are out on the media tour. And these 'consultants' are floating the theory that George was framing Casey. They imply that he put the duct tape on her little face,l then kept it in the home on purpose, even used it on camera from news station filming him. They imply that he changed her clothes, putting the wrong size shorts on, before putting her in the trunk to frame Casey. They have to go with the 'framing' scenario because no one would believe an ex cop would do all of those stupid things unless it was a frame up.

They cannot go with the old accident story because everyone laughed in their faces.

 

[GourmetSoy]

The only time I've ever heard of this is in the defense non evidentiary opening statements.

This is ICA's trial, not "who done it". The State does not have to prove George didn't do it in order for ICA to be convicted of murder, they have to prove that she did it and they have that evidence.

When did this become a "did George or Casey do it?" thing anyhow? By even the defense accounts it was an accident. There is no allegation that George murdered Caylee, the defense stated in OS they weren't saying he killed her either.

And so what if George abused Casey? Since when is that an excuse to murder your daughter and have no fault? It's just a smoke screen to blur the real story, and that's Casey murdered Caylee!

ETA: I'm not speaking to anyone in particular, the defense just ticks me off and so does ICA with her bullhonkey

 

[RSDhoping for a cure]

TRUE. But Jose fancies himself a hispanic Evil Kneivel. I think they are going to make a huge leap. Casey will GO FOR IT. Her dad abused her and then went after Caylee. She threatened to turn him in, and he drowned the child, called casey outside and said,' SEE what happens when you defy me!'

So she ran and tried to live in denial because she was so fragile. And she will describe in excrutiating detail her childhood abuse memories.

This wouldn't surprise me at all and it would IMO just confirm that ICA is in fact a spiteful bi***. However, it could very well give the jurors reasonable doubt.

 

[Kat]

I can't say what the defense is going to come up with but I'm very interested to hear.

George isn't accused of murdering Caylee. He is accused of being the one that disposed of Caylee after an accidental drowning.

I LKB is a <censored>. I don't pay her any attention.

 

[katydid23]

But GA didn't lie about Zanny the Nanny. And he didn't go out partying at hot body contests. He didn't take LE on a wild goose chase (or two or three). The lies surrounding Caylee's murder belong to ICA. ICA was the only one claiming to know what happened to Caylee (that she was kidnapped by an imaginary person). All of CA and GA's misdirection was created to get ICA off the person-of-interest list. All of ICA's lies have to do with what happened to Caylee.

The case will not be decided on which Anthony family member lies the most. It will be decided on which Anthony family member has lied about what happened to Caylee. And there is only one Anthony family member who fills that bill.

BUT the DT is going to turn that around and say George is the REASON casey lied. They are going to try and convince the jury that Casey knew the nanny story was ridiculous. Who didn't? But she was so fragile and injured for all those years of abuse, and now he had her child, and he was the one who warned her to PRETEND like everything was okay.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

But GA didn't lie about Zanny the Nanny. And he didn't go out partying at hot body contests. He didn't take LE on a wild goose chase (or two or three). The lies surrounding Caylee's murder belong to ICA. ICA was the only one claiming to know what happened to Caylee (that she was kidnapped by an imaginary person). All of CA and GA's misdirection was created to get ICA off the person-of-interest list. All of ICA's lies have to do with what happened to Caylee.

The case will not be decided on which Anthony family member lies the most. It will be decided on which Anthony family member has lied about what happened to Caylee. And there is only one Anthony family member who fills that bill.

Read ALL my posts. We're imagining what the DT is going to say when they present their part of the case.
It's very clear that most peeps don't want to hear their case. This is the United States.

 

[LancelotLink]

But GA didn't lie about Zanny the Nanny. And he didn't go out partying at hot body contests. He didn't take LE on a wild goose chase (or two or three). The lies surrounding Caylee's murder belong to ICA. ICA was the only one claiming to know what happened to Caylee (that she was kidnapped by an imaginary person). All of CA and GA's misdirection was created to get ICA off the person-of-interest list. All of ICA's lies have to do with what happened to Caylee.

The case will not be decided on which Anthony family member lies the most. It will be decided on which Anthony family member has lied about what happened to Caylee. And there is only one Anthony family member who fills that bill.

ITA. It isn't IF she lied, it it WHAT she lied about.

 

[LancelotLink]

Read ALL my posts. We're imagining what the DT is going to say when they present their part of the case.
It's very clear that most peeps don't want to hear their case. This is the United States.

I can't wait to hear their case.