Human Predators Stalk Haiti's Vulnerable Kids

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We need to keep an eye on this:

http://www.haitivox.com/



"Sunday, February 21, 2010

THREE BIG STORIES COMING

Hi all,

I have three BIG Haiti stories coming that I'll be reporting on in the next 72 hours. One is major breaking news, so I'm going to release that information by working with a major media partner to maximize distribution of the information.

They are related to Silsby, to Transitional Housing, and a third topic."
 
A little background on the blogger Anne-Christine d'Adesky of haitivox:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne-Christine_d'Adesky



I knew she was a writer and an activist. I had no idea that she was the same woman who advised Silsby to drop her plan of "rescuing" orphans. From the WSJ article of Feb. 2nd:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703422904575039761361995340.html


"New light was shed on the early activities of the missionaries by Anne-christine d'Adesky, a writer and human-rights activist from a prominent Haitian family who is a U.S. citizen. She emailed several U.N. authorities and said she met Laura Silsby, the leader of the American group, on Jan. 24 in a hotel in the Dominican Republic.

Ms. Silsby said her authorization to collect Haitian orphans and bring them to the Dominican Republic was from an unnamed Dominican official, according to Ms. d'Adesky's email. "I informed her that this would be regarded as illegal even with some 'Dominican' minister authorizing, since the children are Haitian," Ms. d'Adesky wrote, adding that she directed Ms. Silsby to U.N. agencies helping the Haitian government handle orphans and adoptions. In a telephone interview, Ms. d'Adesky said she recalled Ms. Silsby's response: "We have been sent by the Lord to rescue these children, and if it's in the Lord's plan we will be successful."

Ms. d'Adesky also told the U.N. officials that Ms. Silsby had planned to bring children back to the Dominican Republic on Jan. 25, four days before the group was arrested. She therefore urged the U.N. officials to "check on the orphanage" in the Dominican Republic because children might have been brought there before the group was arrested......."

more at link

Have we determined just who this Dominican "minister" is? Is it possible that Silsby is referring to a politician or are we certain she meant to imply that the person was a religious leader?

FWIW, note that Alejandro Puello is referred to in this article as Silsby's attorney.
 
A thorough overview of just what went on at the Hotel Lino in the DR on January 24th by someone who was there, Ms. d'Adesky, herself:

http://www.haitivox.com/2010/02/more-suspicious-ties-in-haiti.html



"......As some of you know, I met the Laura Silsby Baptist missionary group that was arrested for possible child trafficking when I was in Santo Domingo, on the eve of my (and their) entry in Haiti. We met by chance in a hotel there, the Hotel Lino on Sunday, January 24th. After introducing myself and my work monitoring the post-quake orphan crisis (on this blog), we later met and chatted for a half hour in their hotel room. They told me they were a relatively new group to the orphan scene, and were motiviated by God to try to help Haitian children. They'd already had a plan to have an orphanage in the Dominican Republic, and with the quake, their plan went into fast-track....."

and


"But it's important for people following this story to know that a group was involved, with open knowledge of their church/parishes in the US, and it was a planned trip, and it engaged Dominicans with prior ties in the Dominican Republic."


She goes on to detail what Silsby told her and how she advised the group and follows up with her suspicions and concerns about the group and their "contacts" in the DR. Not sure if I've seen this entire piece posted before.

much more at link
 
Truckbomb, even though only a Gringo lawyer, is fluent in spanish (mainly because he lives in the Baja of Florida where english is not the main language). Truck has translated for your convenience the ClaveDigital.com website relevant expressions.

In the spanish expression, Sosua, Puerto Plata donde conoció a Laura Silbsy the word conoció comes rom the infinitive conocer which, in the present tense, means to be familiar with . In the Preterite tense (action fully completed in the past) conoció means HE MET. In other words, Puello first MET Silsby in Sousa DR according to this article and NOT first while she was in a Haitian jail. Gotcha.

Lets go to some of the revealing text now in english.


In addition, Torres worked as a "realtor" in Sosua, Puerta Plata where he met Laura Silbsy, apparently the leader of the Baptist Group (who are defendants of the abduction of the children), and the only one that did not obtain the conditional release in Haiti.

In this opportunity in Haiti, the judge Bernard Saint Bernard Saint Vil, who is in charge of the Americans’ case, said that he will open an investigation of Puello to establish his true identity. He indicated that 'he was skeptical of him because he arrived with four bodyguards. “I have never seen that of a lawyer”, the judge said. He will ask the help of the Department of National Security U.S., on the case of Puello.

According to the authorities of the National Civilian Police of el Salvador, Jorge Aníbal Torres Puello or Jorge Torres Orellana, has American, Canadian, Salvadorian, and Dominican passports, which information has been verified by the police of el Salvador. In El Salvador, the identity document of Jorge Towers Orellana is marked with the number 4167475-3. The case of Torres Orellana or Towers Puello has captured the attention of all the radio, television media and newspapers in Miami, besides the main agencies of the international press.

So the judge is asking for the help of the U.S. federales. Bad news for Silsby given how the U.S. federals can trace cellphone messages.

Looks like our friend Puello has multiple passports so he can come and go at will. Where is Interpol? Maybe Puello is still in DR.

Truck, now back from Mexico, thinks that the Judge will find more than one reason to stay on in the DR given that he can get a comfortable bed and three squares away from a devestated Haiti. The Idaho churches had better send Silsby more mosquito repellant.
 
Thanks so much Truckbomb. Four years of high school Latin only serves to tantalize me with possibly understanding bits and pieces. Isn't it interesting how it always comes down to the tiniest detail?

Soooo, Ms. Silsby and Señor Puello most probably spent some time dabbling in "real estate" in Sosua? That's a bit like saying you dabble in gardening in Southern Oregon. My theory has always been that Puello sprung out from under the rock and hustled into that Haitian jail to protect his interests. Who knows what these two had cooked up.

i.b.nora--With all due respect, it's not a conspiracy theory, it's just a theory.
 
When Silsby “turned down” the U.S. Counselor Service’s recommended lawyers and selected Puello as the group’s “lawyer” all the while the Idaho church is saying that they had no contact with Silsby for the first days when she was arrested, this points to her prior dealings with Puello. When the judge with the help of the U.S. federales focuses in on the cell phone calls Silsby is a cooked goose.

Every day Silsby and her cohort are enjoying the hospitality of the "Haitian Hilton" while hitting the Kool Aid is a day of absolute enjoyment here in the Baja. Hoping the Judge and his prosecutor companion have booked in the DR at the long term rate.
 
Does anyone remember the breakdown of the judicial process for this case? We read that an investigative judge would complete a report and present it to the defense attorney and the prosecuting attorney. This report would then be presented to the presiding judge. Is Judge Sainvil the investigative judge or the presiding judge?
 
Some more info concerning the Baptists who "got away"--the ones who stayed in the DR and did not get arrested. John Requa is the man who is mentioned in the church bulletins as planning a mission trip to the Ukraine last year.

http://www.magicvalley.com/news/local/54413870-1f76-11df-b76c-001cc4c002e0.html


"There was little the Americans could do. The Texans left on Jan. 31, Requa said, and the Twin Falls delegation followed suit the next day. Though they'd had past missionary experience - Crider even helped out at orphanages in Vietnam - none of them had been involved in the planning for this trip. Neither Crider nor Requa ever met Jorge Puello, the former legal adviser to the jailed 10 who is wanted in El Salvador on human smuggling accusations.

"We had no idea of how it was set up or anything. We just went to help," Requa said. The kidnapping charges were ridiculous, he added - if the group had planned to steal children, would they have driven a bus of them up to a border checkpoint?

Today, they're relieved that the Thompsons, McMullin and the others have been released. But they're still concerned for the two people who had to stay behind, and they worry about the effect the whole saga has had on Haitians and the children they sought to care for....."


more at link
 
More info about the anonymous Baptists who stayed in the DR:

http://bastardette.blogspot.com/

"....Now we learn that Nancy Rodriguez, wife of Paul Rodriguez, Magic Valley Baptist Association director of missions, and four "missionaries" from an unnamed group in Texas were also at the "orphan" hotel. This makes (so far) 17 onsite New Life adoption traffickers recruited by Laura Silsby. According to the News-Times:

The plan had been to gather up orphaned children and take them across the border to an orphanage in the Dominican Republic. Eastside members Matt and Lora Crider and John Requa were joined in Haiti's neighboring country by Nancy Rodriguez - wife of Paul Rodriguez, director of missions for the Magic Valley Baptist Association...."

and


"So we now have another mystery. Who are the Texas missionaries and why have they disappeared from the Silsby story? We'd really love to hear more from Nancy Rodriguez, too.

Just how many people were in on this little junket down to Haiti?"
 
Once burned twice shy. The Haitians are being very cautious about children leaving their country. Good!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100222/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_haiti_americans_detained

"Two Americans escorting six U.S.-bound Haitian orphans were briefly detained over the weekend in a misunderstanding, Haitian and U.S. officials said Tuesday.

A State Department official confirmed that the Americans were prevented from leaving Haiti because officials at Port-au-Prince's airport were suspicious about the documents authorizing them to take the children out of the country.

A police officer and an official at Haiti's Ministry of Communications said four Americans — a woman and three men — along with seven Haitian children were taken Saturday to the police station near the airport.

After some hours, a U.S. Embassy official arrived with paperwork that allowed them to be freed, said the two officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to speak to reporters.

The State Department official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity, said there were two Americans and six children, who were being taken to families in Minnesota...."

more at link
 
In the meantime, we have another Jim Allen interview.

Jim Allen Speaks To NewsChannel 10

snips

"For almost a week he had no idea why he was sleeping on a concrete floor with other Haitian jail inmates."
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"Allen says, "they didn't tell us anything. They just said take your shoelaces off, take your belts off and give us your phones. You're in jail. That's all we knew for several days. We didn't know what the charges were."
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Allen says they had virtually no communication with the outside world, and the language barrier made it even worse."

"He says a lot of good things happened in the midst of this whole ordeal, like getting to tell people at the border and other jail inmates about God."

Now, I don't really want to disparage this guy, simply because, so far I think he is the only one that is telling the absolute truth as he experienced it. (Even one of Allen's own lawyers (Kelly Shackelford) flat out lied in a statement made to The Christian Post before Jim went on the Oprah Winfrey Show.)

"Shackelford told The Christian Post that one piece of misinformation circulating concerns the situation surrounding the group’s arrest. The attorney said the team had brought the bus with the children to the border where Dominican authorities said they had all the paperwork they needed. But the team decided to go back to Haiti’s capital Port-au-Prince to check if there was any other paperwork they needed and was at that point arrested.

Media reports have said the American team was arrested at the border as they were trying to take the children out of the country.

“They were arrested not at the border; they were arrested in the middle of Haiti asking for the paperwork they needed,” Shackelford said. “I don’t know what an American could do trying to help and asking what they needed and then get arrested. I don’t know if there is any way to avoid that. I think there was just chaos. It is a very unfortunate situation that these Americans got thrown into jail for three weeks.”" = LIE!!! That is not what Jim Allen has said in any of his interviews.​

Almost every other person willingly or unwillingly caught up in this whole caper has mostly lied, imo. The quantity of lies are stunning. I think the parents of the orphans (I just love saying that) were telling the truth. And, I think Jim Allen has been telling the truth.
 
"http://bastardette.blogspot.com/

"....Now we learn that Nancy Rodriguez, wife of Paul Rodriguez, Magic Valley Baptist Association director of missions, and four "missionaries" from an unnamed group in Texas were also at the "orphan" hotel. This makes (so far) 17 onsite New Life adoption traffickers recruited by Laura Silsby."

In her blog posting, bastardette references a photo, however I think she has identified the people incorrectly.
I believe Paul Rodriguez is in the front row, kneeling first on the left holding hands with his wife Nancy Rodriguez.

http://www.armsaroundthemagicvalley...terreliefphotos/communityactionevent07078.jpg
 
Pastor Sainvil

AP's Feb 20 video briefly showed the flyer Jean Sainvil (aka Pastor Sainvil) handed out to the parents in Citron (a neighborhood at Delmas 33 in Port-au-Prince).
A screen shot from AP's Feb 20 video is attached.

Contacts: pastorsainvil@yahoo.com
and supposedly a phone number: 3818-4068 Pastor Sainvil

- only in Australia did I find a xxxx-xxxx format (coincidence, 3818-4068 is a childcare center in Queensland, but that would be outlandish)
- Haitian numbers have the same 7 digits as we do here, and usually start with a 2.

Maybe the kid's father wrote it down wrong?
If you discard the 4th digit, that is not 100% clear, you get 381-4068 which happens to match New Life Baptist Church in Davenport IA, but their site doesn't mention any missions. Again, unlikely.
I tried various combinations with various area codes. No leads.

Since it was precisely his presence that convinced the parents to trust Silsby one would think he made sure the parents had his correct number. After all, he had only just met Silsby himself.

As I wrote earlier, Sainvil claims to have met Silsby on Jan 27 at the northern border crossing in Ouanaminthe, which is almost a day's drive from Port-au-Prince. But Silsby was already in PaP on Jan 26 meeting with Isaac Adrien. Something's wrong with the date or the place.

His church "Eglise Assemblée Evangélique" aka Gospel Assembly Church (but he claims to have 25 missions) is a +/- 500 sqft room in the back of a strip mall at 6099 Buford Hwy, Suite J, in Norcross GA, behind a hairdresser, a travel agent, etc... It doesn't seem to be registered anywhere, and has an unlisted phone # (678-933-8082).
He feels the kids didn't need any paperwork at all. Verbal agreements were just fine.
At first he called himself an "unpaid consultant", then said he happened to run into Silsby at the border and helped her find 'orphans'. But then jumped on a military evacuation plane to Miami and later his phone went dead.

Two of the early Sainvil interviews: (there are more, but the YouTube ones automatically embed and take up space)

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/video/22414250/index.html
http://video.ap.org/?f=1160152&pid=YcoXxlQoF_OsslTzszukobvvpM1a1TEw

Though the pastor has such influence and so many alleged missions I cannot find anything about his past. He probably has a double first name, and Sainvil is very common. Unlike Left Side of the Moon, (thanks for the links), I am not sure this is the same person from Gardner MA.

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Do you not think he is the same Jean Sainvil at Appling Way in Atlanta? A woman lives at that address too. A MSainvil. Not the same people?

And I'm confused about the "scout", who went and set up the hasty soccer field meeting. Here, I thought he was just a helpful kid who knew the families. I had no idea that he is Isaac Adrien, director of an orphanage. Hmmmm.

I noted that the Haitian guards did ask the Baptists to turn over their phones. There's gonna be some mighty interesting info on those phones, IMO.
 
How can this not be of concern? Isaac Adrien is listed as the director of the sponsorship programs for Children of Promise:

http://www.echildrenofpromise.org/N...leId/47/Haiti-Earthquake-Situation-11310.aspx

Isaac is also the young man who assisted the Silsby group in finding parents willing to give up their children.

The Children of Promise are also under scrutiny tonight for another adoption debacle:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100223...zBHNlYwN5bi1yLWItbGVmdARzbGsDZXYtb3JwaGFuYWdl

"Six U.S.-bound orphans seized by Haitian police despite having their papers in order remained in a government-run nursery more than two days later, the orphanage director said Monday night.

"The youngest has developed diarrhea and is very dehydrated," said Jan Bonnema of Prinsburg, Minnesota, founder and director with her husband, Bud, of the Children of The Promise orphanage, where the children originated."

and

"A large group of Haitians attacked them," Bonnema added. "They were swearing at them and saying, 'These are Haitian babies. You cannot take them. You are child trafficking.'"

U.S. and Haitian officials had earlier confirmed the detention but without providing details. The children, ages 1 to 5, and women were all detained by police, and the women were released several hours later from a nearby police station after U.S. diplomats intervened. But the children remained in a government nursery in a tent camp on Monday night, Bonnema said."


You know I've worked with international and domestic adoptions for 26 years now. After our two highly successful Korean adoptions and our failed Haitian adoption, we decided to turn our attention to the children in the US who were waiting the longest...black boys. We've adopted five boys of color and two of their sisters along the way. Black boys in the US still wait far longer for adoption and languish in foster care.

To be very blunt, I'm not understanding this. A Haitian adoption costs between $10,000 adn $20,000 and has a holding time of almost two years. A domestic adoption is free and the child receives an adoption assistance payment, full medical, dental, and therapy until the age of 21. Why are people in a frenzy about Haitian children who should be staying in their own country? Has anyone turned to look at the 400,000 children with a plan of adoption in this country? Just wondering.
 
A Timeline. Additions, changes, corrections are welcome.

Laura Silsby and Charisa Coulter visit Haiti in late December, early January and take food and clothes and toys to the children at Pastor Daniel's church in Quiminthe, Haiti


FRIDAY JANUARY 8, 2010
Laura Lavonne Silsby and Jose Altagracia Ovando Hidalgo register the Refugio de Niños Nueva Vida Dominicana with the Dominican Republic government
(New Dominican Life Children's Refuge)

Sometime between January 8 and January 12, Laura Silsby and her cohort, sidekick, joined at the hip nanny and assistant Charisa Coulter leave the DR and return to their home/s in Idaho.


TUESDAY JANUARY 12, 2010
An Earthquake strikes Haiti at about 5:00 PM EST time.


FRIDAY JANUARY 22, 2010
— This is the day that all The Baptists are to meet in Miami. According to Jim Allen of Amarillo, Texas he went a day early and arrived in Miami on January 21st.
— It is possible that the Baptists flew to Puerto Plata, got their bus and then drove to Santo Domingo on Sunday.


SATURDAY JANUARY 23, 2010
— Did the Baptists visit the Hotel/Orphanage today?


SUNDAY JANUARY 24, 2010
The Baptists arrive in the Dominican Republic and check into the Hotel Lina, Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. (Barcelo Lina, Santo Domingo - located in the center of Santo Domingo about 25 miles from Las Americas International Airport)
— By chance, they meet Anne-Christine d'Adesky, a writer and human rights activist who after listening to Silby's 'plans' to collect Haitian orphans, informs her that it would be regarded as illegal.
— Ms. Silsby's response: "We have been sent by the Lord to rescue these children, and if it's in the Lord's plan we will be successful."
— Silsby calls Malinda Pickett of Kentucky, she and her husband Richard are in the process of adopting some orphans in Haiti. Laura offers to help 'get' the kids. Malinda informs Laura that Richard is in Haiti now and please do not do anything to our children.
— Silsby informs d'Adesky that the group hoped to cross the border later this Sunday night, or the next day, and be back in the DR by Monday evening. d'Adesky informed Silsby that they needed documents and they had to inform Haitian authorities and UN people at the Protection Cluster who were in charge post quake.
— Silsby agreed to meet up with d'Adesky in the morning. However, by morning, the Baptists were gone.
— The director of "His Home for Children" in Haiti said a bus had turned up at his orphanage (near Delmas 60) late Sunday night, unannounced, with a missionary group that asked him to turn over remaining children in his care. He declined, telling d'Adesky 'it smelled fishy'


MONDAY JANUARY 25, 2010
— According to Anne-Christine d'Adesky (in an email to the UN), Silsby had planned to bring children back to the Dominican Republic on Jan. 25 (today)
— Silsby calls Malinda Pickett twice today, offering to get their adopted children out of Haiti for them. The family declines her assistance.


TUESDAY JANUARY 26, 2010
— Orphanage worker Isaac Adrien , 20, meets Silsby at the Quisqueya Christian School in Port-au-Prince. Isaac was raised at the House of Blessings Orphanage (founded by Phillip Murphy) in Callebasse. Isaac is coordinator for the Children of Promise program in Haiti. He and his brother, Steve, begin translating yesterday with the relief efforts being coordinated by Quisqueya Christian School. He says Silsby tells him she is looking for homeless children.
Acting on behalf of the Baptists, Adrien went the same day to Callebasse and convened nearly the entire village of Callebasse, about 500 people, on a dirt soccer field and presented the Americans offer. He told his neighbors the missionaries would educate their children in the neighboring Dominican Republic, the villagers said, adding that they were also assured they would be free to visit their children there. The Baptists also offered swimming pools and tennis courts.
— Silsby showed up at the Compassion for All orphanage in Haiti, asking to collect the Picketts' three adopted children and claiming to be Malinda Pickett's friend, according to Richard Pickett.
— David Louis, son of the owner Arthur Louis, of the Compassion for All orphanage
was there that day. He said Silsby asked if she could help them by taking a few of the children. He told her that he cannot make that decision. (intvu with AC360)
— When David wouldn't give Silsby any children and the Pickett children were not there -- they were with their new father Richard Pickett -- Silsby hired David Louis to go from orphanage to orphanage and be her translator and guide. And no one would turn children over to her. And, in the end, she was frustrated and crying that none of the responsible adults would give her any children.
— Three interpreters who worked for the Baptists told CNN the group met twice with a man, a mystery man, thought to be a Haitian policeman, who offered to help.
The first encounter took place on January 26. He told team leader Laura Silsby that they couldn't gather up Haitian children as they were doing, but then offered his help, according to an interpreter's account.
"They met a police guy and he told them that he could help and he was helping them with some paper," said Steve Adrien, one of three interpreters employed by the group. "We did not meet him in a police station, but in the street in a car."


WEDNESDAY JANUARY 27, 2010
— Pastor Jean Sainvil claims he first met up with Silsby and The Baptists on this day at Quanamithe on the northern Haiti-Dominican border and agreed to help her collect children for a 150-bed orphanage the Americans were establishing near the beach resort of Cabarete in the Dominican Republic.


THURSDAY JANUARY 28, 2010
— 20 children in the village of Callebasse were surrendered to the Baptists today. Parents there told The Associated Press they surrendered their children on Jan. 28, two days after a local orphanage worker acting on behalf of the Baptists convened nearly the entire village of about 500 people on a dirt soccer field to present the Americans' offer. As they loaded children onto a bus in Callebas on Jan. 28, the Americans took down contact information for all the families and assured them a relative would be able to visit them in the Dominican Republic.
— The Baptists again met with the mystery man in Port-au-Prince on Thursday, near the Dominican embassy. "He was helping Laura (Silsby) to get in touch with the ambassador in the Dominican embassy," according to Isaac Adrien, Steve's brother and another one of the interpreters. He said the group came away from the meeting with a document from the embassy that they took with them to the border on Friday.
— Silsby, accompanied by Sainvil collects 13 children from Citron.
— Sainvil, a former orphan who says his nondenominational Haiti Sharing Jesus Ministry has 25 churches in the countryside, said the two agreed to meet again in Port-au-Prince on Feb. 13 to get more children.
— John Requa of Twin Falls, Idaho, member of Eastside Baptist Church arrives in the Dominican Republic with plans to help the Baptists. He busied themselves working with another mysterious group from Texas to get the hotel that would serve as a temporary building ready for the children. Also, Requa and the Criders to come were joined by Nancy Rodriguez - wife of Paul Rodriguez the director of missions for the Magic Valley Baptist Association.


FRIDAY JANUARY 29, 2010
— Matt and Lora Crider arrive in the Dominican Republic. (probably Puerto Plata)
— 2:00 PM The Dominican consul in Port au Prince told the American Baptists that "you do not have the paperwork. It is illegal, what you are doing. Do not travel."
— 6:00 PM The Baptists with 33 purloined children are stopped at the southern Haitian / DR border crossing of Malpasse and detained. According to Jim Allen they spend Friday night at the border in a secured area.
— The group in Haiti called the group in the DR to say they had to get another document and wouldn't be across with the children that night.
— Pastor Jean Sainvil said when border authorities were questioning the missionaries, “One of the police officers called me and I was talking to him, and that’s when my phone went dead.”


SATURDAY JANUARY 30, 2010
— The Baptists are escorted back into Port au Prince and Silsby is questioned. Later in the day the Baptists are arrested and jailed.
— The children are turned over to an orphanage in Port au Prince run by the Austrian-based SOS Children's Villages charity.
— The Criders during a trip to Santo Domingo, got a call from Paul Thompson that the Baptists in Haiti had been arrested. Matt and Lora immediately went to the U.S. Embassy for help.
— Sainvil, meanwhile, became sick with vomiting and diarrhea and decided to fly back to the U.S. on a military transport plane, he said. ??? when ???


SUNDAY JANUARY 31, 2010
— Baptists in jail. No shoestrings, no phones, no belts. Got to keep their Bibles.
— The mysterious Texans working at the rented hotel/orphanage, left to go back to U.S.


MONDAY FEBRUARY 1, 2020
— Baptists are scheduled to attend a hearing with the judge.
— Anne-Christine d'Adesky sends an email to the United Nations and recounts meeting the leader of the missionaries before they entered Haiti and warning that the group's plan to collect 100 Haitian orphans was illegal because they lacked proper authorization.
— Ms. d'Adesky also told the U.N. officials that Ms. Silsby had planned to bring children back to the Dominican Republic on Jan. 25, four days before the group was arrested. She therefore urged the U.N. officials to "check on the orphanage" in the Dominican Republic because children might have been brought there before the group was arrested.
— Jorge Puello might have met in person with the Baptists today.
— John Requa and Matt and Lora Crider, all of Twin Falls, Idaho and Nancy Rodriguez left the DR and flew back to the U.S.


TUESDAY FEBRUARY 2, 2010
— Jorge Puello contacts Jose Hidalgo and requested documents detailing Silsby's plans to open the orphanage in the Dominican Republic so he could prove her innocence. Hidalgo said he turned over copies of the documents after Puello showed him a video in which he interviewed Coulter, one of the missionaries.
 
Missizzy said:
How can this not be of concern? Isaac Adrien is listed as the director of the sponsorship programs for Children of Promise:

http://www.echildrenofpromise.org/N...leId/47/Haiti-Earthquake-Situation-11310.aspx

Isaac is also the young man who assisted the Silsby group in finding parents willing to give up their children.

The Children of Promise are also under scrutiny tonight for another adoption debacle:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100223...zBHNlYwN5bi1yLWItbGVmdARzbGsDZXYtb3JwaGFuYWdl

"Six U.S.-bound orphans seized by Haitian police despite having their papers in order remained in a government-run nursery more than two days later, the orphanage director said Monday night.

"The youngest has developed diarrhea and is very dehydrated," said Jan Bonnema of Prinsburg, Minnesota, founder and director with her husband, Bud, of the Children of The Promise orphanage, where the children originated."

and

"A large group of Haitians attacked them," Bonnema added. "They were swearing at them and saying, 'These are Haitian babies. You cannot take them. You are child trafficking.'"

U.S. and Haitian officials had earlier confirmed the detention but without providing details. The children, ages 1 to 5, and women were all detained by police, and the women were released several hours later from a nearby police station after U.S. diplomats intervened. But the children remained in a government nursery in a tent camp on Monday night, Bonnema said."


You know I've worked with international and domestic adoptions for 26 years now. After our two highly successful Korean adoptions and our failed Haitian adoption, we decided to turn our attention to the children in the US who were waiting the longest...black boys. We've adopted five boys of color and two of their sisters along the way. Black boys in the US still wait far longer for adoption and languish in foster care.

To be very blunt, I'm not understanding this. A Haitian adoption costs between $10,000 adn $20,000 and has a holding time of almost two years. A domestic adoption is free and the child receives an adoption assistance payment, full medical, dental, and therapy until the age of 21. Why are people in a frenzy about Haitian children who should be staying in their own country? Has anyone turned to look at the 400,000 children with a plan of adoption in this country? Just wondering.
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Missizzy, IIRC Issac was working at one of the orphanages, House of Blessings, that Silsby visited when she went around asking for children. He refused to give her any of their children. He did however agree to act as an interpreter for her group and took her to some other orphanages where the response was the same (No). He later took her to the village of Cabrese(sp?) where he is from I believe. I remember that he was testifying for the Haitian government in the trial proceedings.

I remember this information was stated in one of the videos when the media interviewed the interpreters early on in the case. Anderson Cooper maybe or CNN I think but I can't remember which one right off the top of my head. I would look for the video but am too tired right now. Maybe tomorrow, because I really need to head to bed..
 
MissIzzy wrote:
To be very blunt, I'm not understanding this. A Haitian adoption costs between $10,000 adn $20,000 and has a holding time of almost two years. A domestic adoption is free and the child receives an adoption assistance payment, full medical, dental, and therapy until the age of 21. Why are people in a frenzy about Haitian children who should be staying in their own country? Has anyone turned to look at the 400,000 children with a plan of adoption in this country? Just wondering.
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Thanks for bringing that up.
 
Missizzy said:
Has anyone found any mention as to the name of the orphanage where the Pickett kids were? In a huge city, fraught with turmoil, how did Silsby find those particular children?
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I recall reading in a news article that the Picketts had been maintaining a website about their adoption process. Apparently Silsby got all or most of her information about them from this website.
 
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