Found Deceased LA - Mark Bakotic, 21, New Orleans, 30 Dec 2016

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If he was carrying this girl he couldn't have so out of it that he would be an easy target for a robbery, imo. He apparently was well in control of his own body, and able to think clearly enough to help this woman.

So assuming he was physically and mentally fine - what happened next? He just wandered off? Someone said a river is nearby, did he go there? Have they searched it? Wouldn't be the first time I have seen this happening here.
 
For the detectives to name these two individuals as POI's in his disappearance, to me, means it's more than them just finding his wallet on the ground, and trying to steal money. LE wouldn't put their names out there if they didn't have more information, I don't believe. Praying for Mark and his family!
 
vanwr said:
For the detectives to name these two individuals as POI's in his disappearance, to me, means it's more than them just finding his wallet on the ground, and trying to steal money. LE wouldn't put their names out there if they didn't have more information, I don't believe. Praying for Mark and his family!
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I agree, sadly. I think LE knows there's more to it.
 
I agree.. so scary. Where could he be! I wonder what these women have to say!
 
My guess is mollies or an ecstasy OD will play a part here (along with the girl he was carrying). He was able to carry her to safety apparently and she has recovered, but it looks like he didn't make it and was robbed that night while vulnerable. The thing is, I can't see these women going through much effort to conceal a body, so I think they left him alive and LE just needs to know where and what his condition was. I really hope they can find them.
 
bessie said:
The Lower Garden District has seen a spike in crime of late, I'm afraid. The Warehouse District is still relatively safe, whatever "safe" means around here.

FWIW, NYE was very cold with lots of rain practically the entire night.
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New Years eve wasn't bad though. I live in the French Quarter and I rode my bike home on the 30th from work (About a mile and a half) and then I went out and partied on the 31st. Neither of those nights were bad enough to warrent anything more than a long-sleeved shirt. On NYE I was wearing short-shorts and I was fine. The freeze didn't happen until the 6th.
 
It just occurred to me, if they were using his wallet before he was last seen then he doesn't have any ID on him. I've heard the cops have checked the Morgue for John Does but have they checked all the hospitals? What about the ones outside of the city or Parish?
 
vanwr said:
For the detectives to name these two individuals as POI's in his disappearance, to me, means it's more than them just finding his wallet on the ground, and trying to steal money. LE wouldn't put their names out there if they didn't have more information, I don't believe. Praying for Mark and his family!
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I know you are right. I had a moment of wanting to be hopeful, rather than realistic. But, I really am a more realistic person and this is exactly right. Also, one has taken down her Facebook (the link says content not available). If you are not guilty of anything more than trying to use a credit card, why not go in and talk to them instead of going off the grid. Its all really bad.
 
EmmaliLucia said:
It just occurred to me, if they were using his wallet before he was last seen then he doesn't have any ID on him. I've heard the cops have checked the Morgue for John Does but have they checked all the hospitals? What about the ones outside of the city or Parish?
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The weird thing is that these articles are saying he was last seen at 11pm and then the credit cards were attempted at 2:48am (or something like that). I thought I originally heard he was seen around 4am. But maybe that has changed? I really don't think he happened to lose it, it was found by thieves who tried to use it and then he coincidentally goes missing later. I think it was all connected. Likely, with males involved at some point, too.

I'm going to see if there is any new info today.
 
The river is the Missisippi RIver. Its not something you can just go search. It is huge and fast moving with ,multiple currents. It is also not something that he would have just happened upon, when leaving Republic.

The river is mostly blocked with warehouses, a cruise ship terminal, a big huge mall, a sea wall (if the river were to flood, there is a concrete wall that would try to keep the water out of the city, as we are below sea level), streetcar tracks and train tracks. This is mostly what it looks like.
https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M71b185a32b221fe5e3c2964fb261a2a6o0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xPgdOaxbs...466c/s1600/julia-street-cruise-terminal-3.jpg

This is a map of where he was.
https://search.yahoo.com/local/s;_y...-avg-fh_lsonsw&hspart=avg&hsimp=yhs-fh_lsonsw

I can't find a picture of the outside, but it is a club that is in a strip that has lots of bars and lots of traffic. It is a popular club, surrounded by other popular clubs. It is not at all isolated. Someone reported that he was heading towards Canal, if you see that on the map.

I hope all my links go through! lol
 
One more thing-- it is basically across from Howlin Wolf. I looked it up and the Hot 8 Brass Band was playing there that Friday night. They have a big following (I go see them all the time). This is a night that would have had lots of people all over the place! Someone saw something.
 
Well, I'm just taking over this thread! I apologize.

Here are some FB pages:
https://www.facebook.com/karima.peters

https://www.facebook.com/brittany.pinera?pnref=friends.search

This comments under this article from SA, yesterday at 7:20pm says that she knows them and they work on Bourbon St. as shot girls. I have not seen that confirmed, but if they do, plenty of people will know them and recognize them from that night.

https://www.facebook.com/FOX8NOLA/p...07322144609/10155100786289610/?type=3&theater

I wish this was taken seriously sooner. Project Nola might have been able to help with video footage. The clubs may have had footage. I am not sure a couple of weeks in!
 
SCHMAE said:
This is so scary.
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It sure is. My heart is bleeding for his poor father and the rest of the family. All of the cases we deal with here are heartbreaking, but the local ones sometimes touch me much more deeply. This is one of them. Sending prayers and hope.
 
mpnola said:
The river is the Missisippi RIver. Its not something you can just go search. It is huge and fast moving with ,multiple currents. It is also not something that he would have just happened upon, when leaving Republic.

The river is mostly blocked with warehouses, a cruise ship terminal, a big huge mall, a sea wall (if the river were to flood, there is a concrete wall that would try to keep the water out of the city, as we are below sea level), streetcar tracks and train tracks. This is mostly what it looks like.
https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M71b185a32b221fe5e3c2964fb261a2a6o0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xPgdOaxbs...466c/s1600/julia-street-cruise-terminal-3.jpg

This is a map of where he was.
https://search.yahoo.com/local/s;_y...-avg-fh_lsonsw&hspart=avg&hsimp=yhs-fh_lsonsw

I can't find a picture of the outside, but it is a club that is in a strip that has lots of bars and lots of traffic. It is a popular club, surrounded by other popular clubs. It is not at all isolated. Someone reported that he was heading towards Canal, if you see that on the map.

I hope all my links go through! lol
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Excellent description of the waterfront in that area. You'd have to be clear headed and work at getting to the water. Like you said, the wharves, warehouses, railroad tracks, wall, etc., present formidable obstacles. And besides, bodies in the river in the center of the city always show up before long. So, no. Personally, I don't believe this young man ended up in the river.
 
EmmaliLucia said:
New Years eve wasn't bad though. I live in the French Quarter and I rode my bike home on the 30th from work (About a mile and a half) and then I went out and partied on the 31st. Neither of those nights were bad enough to warrent anything more than a long-sleeved shirt. On NYE I was wearing short-shorts and I was fine. The freeze didn't happen until the 6th.
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You're right about the freeze being the following weekend. But you know how NOLA is when it comes to rain. I live only a few blocks from the river, but further downstream. We had heavy rain off and on all day and night. At midnight, it was teeming.
 
mpnola said:
The river is the Missisippi RIver. Its not something you can just go search. It is huge and fast moving with ,multiple currents. It is also not something that he would have just happened upon, when leaving Republic.

The river is mostly blocked with warehouses, a cruise ship terminal, a big huge mall, a sea wall (if the river were to flood, there is a concrete wall that would try to keep the water out of the city, as we are below sea level), streetcar tracks and train tracks. This is mostly what it looks like.
https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M71b185a32b221fe5e3c2964fb261a2a6o0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xPgdOaxbs...466c/s1600/julia-street-cruise-terminal-3.jpg

This is a map of where he was.
https://search.yahoo.com/local/s;_y...-avg-fh_lsonsw&hspart=avg&hsimp=yhs-fh_lsonsw

I can't find a picture of the outside, but it is a club that is in a strip that has lots of bars and lots of traffic. It is a popular club, surrounded by other popular clubs. It is not at all isolated. Someone reported that he was heading towards Canal, if you see that on the map.

I hope all my links go through! lol
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Thank you mpnola for this description. Makes it so much easier to picture things.

So you say it was very busy that night, lots of people, traffic, many bars open, events happening. Could he have gone into another bar, listened to a band, or joined another group of people, and somehow it went south from there.

I wonder if all the employees in other bars on this strip, including bouncers, security personnel etc, have been shown his description/photo, or been asked to check their surveillance footage, if they have any.
 
Elainera said:
Thank you mpnola for this description. Makes it so much easier to picture things.

So you say it was very busy that night, lots of people, traffic, many bars open, events happening. Could he have gone into another bar, listened to a band, or joined another group of people, and somehow it went south from there.

I wonder if all the employees in other bars on this strip, including bouncers, security personnel etc, have been shown his description/photo, or been asked to check their surveillance footage, if they have any.
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That area is always fairly busy. But I can imagine that weekend was especially busy! They had the show he went to, plus the brass band across the street, plus it was Friday night! On top of all that, the dick Clark new years celebration was simulcast from new Orleans this year. And there were a college bowl team game here that weekend. It was a very busy weekend. It is highly likely he could go in another bar. We always do! Wander out one and into the next.

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I have a hunch he was out of his mind on drugs and not bar hopping.
 
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