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Hey you!Hello people. WH van searched 3.20.15, but discovery 4.9. Why so long?
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Maybe they needed to run tests on fingerprints, hair samples, other DNA?
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Hello.. been awhile. ... But van had GPS, so how long can it take to get that info?
Do police get search warrants even when people would voluntarily give the information? For court purposes or something?? Or does getting a search warrant mean that person would not give the information voluntarily?
Hey Zach, good to see you back here. I wish I could answer your questions but I'm at loss as to the way this case has been handled all along. Everyone who's paid attention, KNOWS WH had some hand in AJ's tragic death. But I did want you to know how much AJ touched so many people's hearts. She became our girl. I've had numerous private discussions with folks here over the years and it was the same for everyone, and still is for many of us. AJ was mentioned in our homes often. "What's going on with AJ's case?" "Has anyone been charged yet??"
I just wanted you to know that. There are still lots of folks you've never met, who consider AJ (and you, by extension) family, and will never tire in seeking/desiring justice.
they still get search warrants here, CA, unless someone is in imminent danger.
as far as GPS, they would need a search warrant for cell company for access to ping or reports and I hear that takes forever.
For instance a cell phone. They don't get a warrant if you give it to them voluntarily. So if there is a warrant for somebody's cell phone, it's because they wouldn't voluntarily give it to police, correct?
No. LE would gladly take the phone you volunteered, but, they would still get a search warrant.
LE would not trust that you didn't erase/delete texts, call logs, or other information from the phone before giving it over.
You can not get "pings" off of someone's cell phone. You have to subpoena cell phone companies for the tower data records/pings and compare to the cell phone records. I remember in another case they said even then they could only get "areas" and not specific places of the pings.
Is this what you mean?
Not only pings, but call history, etc... So you're saying that - just because there is a warrant for someone's phone, doesn't mean they refused to cooperate with police?
Same here!Hey Zach, good to see you back here. I wish I could answer your questions but I'm at loss as to the way this case has been handled all along. Everyone who's paid attention, KNOWS WH had some hand in AJ's tragic death. But I did want you to know how much AJ touched so many people's hearts. She became our girl. I've had numerous private discussions with folks here over the years and it was the same for everyone, and still is for many of us. AJ was mentioned in our homes often. "What's going on with AJ's case?" "Has anyone been charged yet??"
I just wanted you to know that. There are still lots of folks you've never met, who consider AJ (and you, by extension) family, and will never tire in seeking/desiring justice.
Thank you for saying what I wanted to say.No. LE would gladly take the phone you volunteered, but, they would still get a search warrant.
LE would not trust that you didn't erase/delete texts, call logs, or other information from the phone before giving it over.
You can not get "pings" off of someone's cell phone. You have to subpoena cell phone companies for the tower data records/pings and compare to the cell phone records. I remember in another case they said even then they could only get "areas" and not specific places of the pings.
Is this what you mean?
Whose cell phone?Not only pings, but call history, etc... So you're saying that - just because there is a warrant for someone's phone, doesn't mean they refused to cooperate with police?
Not only pings, but call history, etc... So you're saying that - just because there is a warrant for someone's phone, doesn't mean they refused to cooperate with police?
If someone volunteered their cell, then it would be taken in to evidence and considered voluntarily surrendered. Going before a Judge for a warrant for the same phone would be necessary, no.
If you give your phone, that is considered consent = no warrant.
The most frequent way police are able to search is by asking you for permission. If you say yes and consent to the search, then police dont need a warrant. You can limit the scope of that consent and even revoke or take it back after the officers begin searching, but by then it may be too late.1 Thats why its better not consent to a search--police may drop the matter. If not, then they will generally need to get a search warrant to search.https://www.eff.org/issues/know-your-rights
Not only pings, but call history, etc... So you're saying that - just because there is a warrant for someone's phone, doesn't mean they refused to cooperate with police?
For instance a cell phone. They don't get a warrant if you give it to them voluntarily. So if there is a warrant for somebody's cell phone, it's because they wouldn't voluntarily give it to police, correct?