Yeppers...IMO..thats exactly why he had so much empathy for him. And even went so far as to telling people to let the facts come out, and not to rush to judge him (John Mark Karr) after JMK confessed!!!! I thought that was weird....when everyone in the country thought that JMK was guilty (before the dna evidence cleared him). I have always thought that the Ramsey's were guilty, and when I heard about JMK and that yearbook that he signed (I Shall Be The Conquerer), I just KNEW that I had been wrong all of these years, and that JB's killer had been caught. BUT YET....what does John Ramsey say? Let the facts come out, don't rush to judge him. Because he KNEW that JMK was not the killer.Toltec said:Why do you think John had so much empathy for John Mark Karr?
Because he knew JMK was not the killer.
If the Ramsey's did it (as seems to be the consensus here, and I'm not challenging anyone), I wonder why they would downplay the pageants as a possible link to their child's murder. Why not take advantage of the public and media's speculation in the beginning that the pageants may have lured a child predator to their house? (Someone so weird that he might even write a non-sensical, rambling ransom note?) It seems that guilty parents would take this opportunity for speculation away from them. And it seems that innocent parents might not be able to bear the guilt of wondering if they had unwittingly endangered their child by having her participate in the pageants (as the public and the media insinuated), and they would, at least publicly, downplay or disregard that possibility.
Dave, wouldn't you think that it would be because of the 118,000 dollars mentioned in the ransom note? What child molester, that frequents those pageants would know about John's bonus that year? IMO...thats why they had to make it look like a "friend" or a business aquaintance. Someone that would KNOW about John's bonus that year.SuperDave said:That would be the magical question!
K777 Angel,K777angel said:So Larry asks John this question this time (again). Logical question.
And immediately John responds to the question with an answer about HIMSELF!!!
He says something like, "You know, many times death would have been a gift for me."
So, why did John relate the question about the killer and the killer's punishment to HIMSELF??
To me it seemed a big Fruedian moment. It jumped out at me in a big way.
The subconcious has an interesting way of influencing the conscious mind and therefore decisions we make.
The subconcious is deeply integrated with our conscience.
Wildflower said:K777 Angel,
I agree completely with your post. I noticed the same thing, and I was incredulous as I watched John stammer through the LKL interview.
Also - I recently re-read DOI and one thing that stood out to me was how John describes going to the basement the first time, seeing the suitcase underneath the broken window which he says was unusual, perhaps even how the "killer" left the house, closing the window, and then NOT MENTIONING ANY OF THIS TO THE DETECTIVES when he went back upstairs - This makes no sense at all - I think that John had not sufficiently rehearsed his story and was uncomfortable opening up this dialogue with the detectives..
John Ramsey did not become the CEO he was that sold to Lockheed by verbally stumbling around. He was an results oriented smooth polished executive featured in our local Boulder Daily Camera as Executive of the Year. Company gone over a billion in sales...... Yet in interview he and Patsy couldn't complete a thought or sentence.halycon said:John Ramsey loses sympathy every time he does a media appearance. I have never seen a more pathetic liar in my life. I pray one day he has to stand before a jury.
coloradokares said:John Ramsey did not become the CEO he was that sold to Lockheed by verbally stumbling around. He was an results oriented smooth polished executive featured in our local Boulder Daily Camera as Executive of the Year. Company gone over a billion in sales...... Yet in interview he and Patsy couldn't complete a thought or sentence.
Sharpen your pencils ladies and gentlemen there is about to be a flurry of hash marks .....Ames said:I think that we should go through each one of their interviews, and count the "UHS" and "I don't know's"......lets make a game of it...and see just how many there are. Should be interesting!!!
Saffron,
The reason the pageants were downplayed and not exploited was likely because they played a major role in any alleged abuse of JonBenet!
That is one area the Ramsey's did not want any searchlight illuminating.
LOL This should be fun! :dance:coloradokares said:Sharpen your pencils ladies and gentlemen there is about to be a flurry of hash marks .....
JMO8778 said:the one where they talked about church,and asking the question of 'but,would they be welcome in church if they did kill her?' and then Patsy perks up and talks about how church and Jesus are for everyone,esp the ones who need it.(like them???)it gave me the same feeling.it's on you tube;you can do a search for it.
a confession of sorts,imo.
Dave, wouldn't you think that it would be because of the 118,000 dollars mentioned in the ransom note? What child molester, that frequents those pageants would know about John's bonus that year? IMO...thats why they had to make it look like a "friend" or a business aquaintance. Someone that would KNOW about John's bonus that year.
The imaginary one.Toltec said:What Kind Of Pedophile Would Want To Give Jonbenet Back?????
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